Talk:Watchmen (2009): Difference between revisions
Talk:Watchmen (2009): Difference between revisions - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games
Talk:Watchmen (2009): Difference between revisions
When watching this movie I also memorized all the guns used best I could.
==Opening Credits Massacre==
The scene at the beginning of the film in which protestors placing flowers in the muzzles of M&P soldier's rifles before being killed is a mix between two famous (or infamous) events during the time of the Vietnam war. The placing the flowers in the muzzles of rifles was done by hippy rioters in [[M14 Rifle]]s carried by M&P soldiers, as seen in this famous photgraph:
My little review. Doesn't spoil anything but lets you know what to expect if you're a fan or plan to watch the film.
Personally, I thought this film was great! A little gorier than the novel was (Snyder can be considered by some as Tarantino with cinematic flair) and the acting felt awkward in spots but the film kept much of the good stuff in and was very faithful to fans of the book such as myself. Some things I really looked forward to such as ALL of Rorscach's story, whic was left out but that's why I wait with anticipation for the super Director's Cut. I totally 100% want to screencap this and might feel compelled to commit homicide if someone else caps this flick, 'cause I REALLY want to. Expect some subtle plot changes but the basic story remains unchanged so don't fret mega fans.
WARNING! MILD SPOILER BELOW! WON'T RUIN FINAL PLOT BUT REVEALS ASPECTS OF RORSCHACH'S STORY IN THE FILM!
If you read the original graphic novel, you know Rorschach killed the child murderer by chaining him to the pole with a hacksaw and burning the building down. Instead of that, Rorscach swings a meat cleaver into his head repeatedly and the famous change to Rorscach from Kovacs is made there, which makes more sense than with killing the dogs as within the book.
I personally like the quote he says after killing the guy. The guy tells him to arrest him and he remarks "Men go to prison, DOGS get put down!" Great stuff. Besides, the burning down the house while chained with a hacksaw was done in Mad Max and Saw so everyone's seen it before.
==Page Mistakes==
A couple notes where I think the main page is incorrect:
The famous picture of the "flowers in the rifle barrel" showed National Guard troops with M-1 Garands. The use of Garands in the alterate history in the movie would be accurate. And, the M-14 was primarily a U.S. military weapon, not a U.S. police weapon. Most images of troops with Garands from the 60's and 70's are National Guard troops, not police. The police did not use M-14 rifles back then so saying the "primary rifle of the police was the M-14 and not the M-1" is also not accurate.
Also, what is your source for the idea that real Colt XM-177E1's are never used in movies? Yes, the "moderator" on the XM 177EI is legally a "surppressor", but there are some in private hands and I believe movie firearms rental houses likely also have some as well.
:I've seen the image of the Hippies putting flowers in the rifles, I remembered them being M14s, forgive me if I'm wrong. And I was thinking older films use the mock-up CAR-15s, because armorers couldn't obtain the muzzle breaks because they were considered suppressors (the armorer for our site [[User:MoviePropMaster2008]] has taken pictures of the mock ups and even comments on their origins. Today, it is likely they can obtain real CAR-15s, but since the guns are old and phased out to M4 series guns, it is assumed they just took some old mock ups from an armorer and used them. The older slab-sode recievers leads me to believe this further. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
::Here's proof! I was right, and here's the pic I know so well:
[[Image:PoliceNamM14s.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:PoliceNamM14s.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]]
::And here it is, I found someone uploading the opening credits. Enjoy and confirm yourself. [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]]
The use of the [[M1 Garand]] and opening fire on the rioters was based on the Kent State Shooting in 1970, when Nation Guardsmen (not M&P) opened fire on protesting students. There's a little history lesson for you.
The scene at the beginning of the film in which protestors placing flowers in the muzzles of M&P soldier's rifles before being killed is a mix between two famous (or infamous) events during the time of the Vietnam war. The placing the flowers in the muzzles of rifles was done by hippy rioters in M14 Rifles carried by M&P soldiers, as seen in this famous photgraph:
The use of the M1 Garand and opening fire on the rioters was based on the Kent State Shooting in 1970, when Nation Guardsmen (not M&P) opened fire on protesting students. There's a little history lesson for you.
