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== NVA Weapons ==
== NVA Weapons ==


The NVA weapons in this movie are of the basic types one will usually see in Vietnam movies on the /NVA/Vietnminh/Vietcong - side. In the beginning when the Viet Minh troops attack the French forces, several [[SKS]] (or possibly Chinese copies of them) rifles and as well as examples of the [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPS-43]], [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPSh-41]], [[M1 Carbine]], [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin-Nagant]] M44 and a ZB-26 light machine gun . The opening scene also features an AT weapon of some sort, which would appear to be an [[M20 "Super Bazooka"]] ''(Note: Most definitely NOT an M20 Super Bazooka, the front end is completely different).'*It seems to be an M1 Bazooka instead* '. Later on in the movie standard [[AK-47]]'s (or possibly cloned Chinese Type-56 assault rifles)and RPG-2s can be seen in addition to the SKS's. In the climax of the film, the NVA are also seen with a [[DShK heavy machine gun]] and German-made [[MG34]] machine gun at the ready, as well as brief glimpses of a DP-1928 and RPD.  
The NVA weapons in this movie are of the basic types one will usually see in Vietnam movies on the NVA/Vietnminh/Vietcong - side. In the beginning when the Viet Minh troops attack the French forces, several [[SKS]] (or possibly Chinese copies of them) rifles and as well as examples of the [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPS-43]], [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPSh-41]], [[M1 Carbine]], [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin-Nagant]] M44 and a ZB-26 light machine gun . The opening scene also features an AT weapon of some sort, which would appear to be an [[M20 "Super Bazooka"]] ''(Note: Most definitely NOT an M20 Super Bazooka, the front end is completely different).'*It seems to be an M1 Bazooka instead* '. Later on in the movie standard [[AK-47]]'s (or possibly cloned Chinese Type-56 assault rifles)and RPG-2s can be seen in addition to the SKS's. In the climax of the film, the NVA are also seen with a [[DShK heavy machine gun]] and German-made [[MG34]] machine gun at the ready, as well as brief glimpses of a DP-1928 and RPD.  


[[Image:AKtype56 WWS.JPG|thumb|left|500px| North Vietnamese soldiers firing AK-47s, indicated by the milled receiver]]
[[Image:AKtype56 WWS.JPG|thumb|left|500px| North Vietnamese soldiers firing AK-47s, indicated by the milled receiver]]

Revision as of 18:25, 12 March 2009

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M16A1

The M16A1 assault rifle are used by the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division including Lt. Colonel Hal Moore(Mel Gibson). Later on the film during the Ia Drang battle Joe Galloway (Barry Pepper) uses one as well. They have the M16 "duckbill" flash suppresor to make them look like the first model M16.

The use of the M16A1 in the film is a anachronism, since the M16A1 wasn´t issued to the US Military untill 1967 while the Battle of Ia Drang takes place in 1965.

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M16A1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm
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Lt.Colonel Hal Moore (Mel Gibson) Lands on the Ia Drang Valey.
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A soldier holds his M16A1. Note the forward assist.
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A specialist holds a M16A1.
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Lt.Col. Hal Moore and another soldier can be seen carryng M16A1s during the Battle of Ia Drang.
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A soldier fires his M16A1 rifle at NVA soldiers.
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A radio operator holds a M16A1.
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Soldiers run from enemy fire while holding their M16A1s.

M1 Carbine

A Korean war era M1 Carbine is carried by the South Vietnamese (ARVN) advisor dressed in Tigerstripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is caught and interrogated. Also appears when the French Solders are being killed.

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M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and Adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine

M60 machine gun

The M60 machine gun is are used by US soldiers. Various Door gunners use them as well.

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M60 in 7.62x51mm NATO
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U.S. soldiers open up with an M60 in We Were Soldiers
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Variuous soldiers fire their M60s in training before the Battle of Ia Drang.
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A door gunner fires a M60 during the Battle of Ia Drang.
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A close-up of a M60 during training.
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A FPS view of a M60 firing in training.
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A soldier can be seen holding a M60 on the left.
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A M60 can be seen behind the soldier on the left-centre of the screencap.

Colt M1911A1 pistol

A Colt M1911A1 is fired by Sgt. Maj. Basil Plumley (Sam Elliott) during a close combat sequence and is also seen in the holsters of his fellow soldiers.

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M1911A1 .45 ACP

M26 Hand Grenades

In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches.

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M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade
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Captain Nadal and another soldier patrol the battlefield with M16's in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches

NVA Weapons

The NVA weapons in this movie are of the basic types one will usually see in Vietnam movies on the NVA/Vietnminh/Vietcong - side. In the beginning when the Viet Minh troops attack the French forces, several SKS (or possibly Chinese copies of them) rifles and as well as examples of the PPS-43, PPSh-41, M1 Carbine, Mosin-Nagant M44 and a ZB-26 light machine gun . The opening scene also features an AT weapon of some sort, which would appear to be an M20 "Super Bazooka" (Note: Most definitely NOT an M20 Super Bazooka, the front end is completely different).'*It seems to be an M1 Bazooka instead* '. Later on in the movie standard AK-47's (or possibly cloned Chinese Type-56 assault rifles)and RPG-2s can be seen in addition to the SKS's. In the climax of the film, the NVA are also seen with a DShK heavy machine gun and German-made MG34 machine gun at the ready, as well as brief glimpses of a DP-1928 and RPD.

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North Vietnamese soldiers firing AK-47s, indicated by the milled receiver
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The Vietminh AT weapon at the start of movie. Model and type to be determined.*Seems to be a M1 Bazooka*

M79 grenade launcher

Various US soldiers can be seen carrying M79 grenade launchers in a few scenes.

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M79 grenade launcher - 40mm
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A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carryng a M79 grenade launcher.

MAS-36 Rifle

In the opening scene where the french soldiers are ambushed during the Indochina War, various french soldiers use MAS-36 rifles.

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French MAS-36 Rifle.
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The French convoy gets ambushed.
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Two french soldiers armed with MAS-36 rifles.
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Two french soldiers fire their MAS-36 rifles.
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A french soldier gets shot while holding a MAS-36 rifle.

Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman

The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake S!@#" Crandall (Greg Kinnear) is most likely a Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman, an unsuccessful lightweight aluminium-cylindered revolver designed for US military flyers.

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Maj. Crandall pulls a revolver during an arguement in Vietnam
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A S&W M-13, demonstarting WHY the aluminium cylinder was unsuccessful.

GE M134 Minigun

A pair each of GE M134 Miniguns are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys at the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table in the beginning of the movie.

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Soldiers inspect an M134 Minigun on display













M1928A1 Thompson

As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a South Vietnamese soldier holding up an M1928/M1928A1 Thompson with a 30 round magazine and a horizontal foregrip

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M1928A1 Thompson with 30-round stick magazine and early 'simplified' rear sight that would be adopted for the M1 Thompson.
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A ARVN marine or special forces soldier holds a M1928/M1928A1 Thompson.

Browning M1919A4

Two Browning M1919A4s can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.

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A variant of the Browning M1919 developed during World War 2, this model is designated the M37, with the ability to feed from either the left or the right of the weapon - 30-06. This example is shown without a tripod, only the pintle mount. This the MOST likely .30 cal machine gun to be seen firing from armored vehicles.
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A french soldier fires the Browning M1919A4 at Viet Minh forces.
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The Browning M1919A4 can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.

MAT-49

Various French Soldiers use MAT-49 submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various North Vietnam soldiers and Vietcong soldiers use them as well during the Battle of Ia Drang.

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A MAT-49 submachine gun.
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A french soldier can be seen with a MAT-49 in the center of the screencap.