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=Additional Images= | |||
[[file:Msbs gpbo.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MSBS-5.56 Radon with GPBO-40 - 5.56x45mm. (2012-2013 Designe. Final version).]] | [[file:Msbs gpbo.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MSBS-5.56 Radon with GPBO-40 - 5.56x45mm. (2012-2013 Designe. Final version).]] | ||
[[file:MSBS-5.56 Prototype 1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MSBS-5.56 Radon "Prototype 1" - 5.56x45mm]] | [[file:MSBS-5.56 Prototype 1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MSBS-5.56 Radon "Prototype 1" - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
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[[file:MSBS-5.56B Prototype 2.jpg|thumb|none|401px|MSBS-5.56B Radon "Prototype 2" - 5.56x45mm]] | [[file:MSBS-5.56B Prototype 2.jpg|thumb|none|401px|MSBS-5.56B Radon "Prototype 2" - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[file:Msbs2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MSBS-5.56 Radon Series; on the left, compact carbine, standard rifle, grenadier rifle, and what appear to be respectively a light support weapon (note extended magazine) and marksman rifle version. On the right, standard rifle (with some kind of muzzle device fitted), light support weapon and marksman rifle.]] | [[file:Msbs2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MSBS-5.56 Radon Series; on the left, compact carbine, standard rifle, grenadier rifle, and what appear to be respectively a light support weapon (note extended magazine) and marksman rifle version. On the right, standard rifle (with some kind of muzzle device fitted), light support weapon and marksman rifle.]] | ||
=Discussion= | |||
== "Radon" == | == "Radon" == | ||
I was wondering whether we should refer to the MSBS as the "Radon". As far as I know, it was a name that won a contest hosted by a Polish magazine (can't remember which), but the creators of the rifle never referred to it as such. Officially it's still the "MSBS 5,56", with Radon being a fan-made nickname. [[User:Tanaj|Tanaj]] ([[User talk:Tanaj|talk]]) 09:51, 20 March 2014 (EDT) | I was wondering whether we should refer to the MSBS as the "Radon". As far as I know, it was a name that won a contest hosted by a Polish magazine (can't remember which), but the creators of the rifle never referred to it as such. Officially it's still the "MSBS 5,56", with Radon being a fan-made nickname. [[User:Tanaj|Tanaj]] ([[User talk:Tanaj|talk]]) 09:51, 20 March 2014 (EDT) | ||
:It was "Strzal" magazine. You're right - "Radon" is not an official name for MSBS (though the contest was held with cooperation from FB Radom). Most gun magazines/portals, and FB themselves, refer to the gun as "MSBS-5,56K/B/R". "K" stays for "kolba" (stock) or "konwencjonalny" (conventional), "B" is for "bezkolbowy" (stock-less - bullpup) and "R" for "reprezentacyjny" (representational - variant for our honor guard). To add a bit of spice the 16" barrel variant of MSBS-5,56K is developed under military-funded program "MSBS", while short-barreled variant, LMG, DMR and MSBS-5,56B variants are developed under "MSBS-5,56 RAWAT" program funded by our Ministry of Science. "RAWAT" is made from words "Radom" (city of manufacturer) and "WAT" (Military Institute of Technology in Warsaw). MSBS-5,56R was private initiative of FB Radom and (oh irony!) have biggest chances to be actually fielded (our honor guards use 50 years old SKS rifles). [[User:Chris22lr|Chris22lr]] ([[User talk:Chris22lr|talk]]) 16:04, 27 August 2014 (EDT) | :It was "Strzal" magazine. You're right - "Radon" is not an official name for MSBS (though the contest was held with cooperation from FB Radom). Most gun magazines/portals, and FB themselves, refer to the gun as "MSBS-5,56K/B/R". "K" stays for "kolba" (stock) or "konwencjonalny" (conventional), "B" is for "bezkolbowy" (stock-less - bullpup) and "R" for "reprezentacyjny" (representational - variant for our honor guard). To add a bit of spice the 16" barrel variant of MSBS-5,56K is developed under military-funded program "MSBS", while short-barreled variant, LMG, DMR and MSBS-5,56B variants are developed under "MSBS-5,56 RAWAT" program funded by our Ministry of Science. "RAWAT" is made from words "Radom" (city of manufacturer) and "WAT" (Military Institute of Technology in Warsaw). MSBS-5,56R was private initiative of FB Radom and (oh irony!) have biggest chances to be actually fielded (our honor guards use 50 years old SKS rifles). [[User:Chris22lr|Chris22lr]] ([[User talk:Chris22lr|talk]]) 16:04, 27 August 2014 (EDT) | ||
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Discussion
"Radon"
I was wondering whether we should refer to the MSBS as the "Radon". As far as I know, it was a name that won a contest hosted by a Polish magazine (can't remember which), but the creators of the rifle never referred to it as such. Officially it's still the "MSBS 5,56", with Radon being a fan-made nickname. Tanaj (talk) 09:51, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
- It was "Strzal" magazine. You're right - "Radon" is not an official name for MSBS (though the contest was held with cooperation from FB Radom). Most gun magazines/portals, and FB themselves, refer to the gun as "MSBS-5,56K/B/R". "K" stays for "kolba" (stock) or "konwencjonalny" (conventional), "B" is for "bezkolbowy" (stock-less - bullpup) and "R" for "reprezentacyjny" (representational - variant for our honor guard). To add a bit of spice the 16" barrel variant of MSBS-5,56K is developed under military-funded program "MSBS", while short-barreled variant, LMG, DMR and MSBS-5,56B variants are developed under "MSBS-5,56 RAWAT" program funded by our Ministry of Science. "RAWAT" is made from words "Radom" (city of manufacturer) and "WAT" (Military Institute of Technology in Warsaw). MSBS-5,56R was private initiative of FB Radom and (oh irony!) have biggest chances to be actually fielded (our honor guards use 50 years old SKS rifles). Chris22lr (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2014 (EDT)