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== P90 Tactical == | == P90 Tactical == | ||
Firstly, what is the deal with the Tactical model? It is the railed top model listed on the FN Herstal website, but the FNH USA page only lists the TR version. Is the Tactical a Europe only version, or is it just that the US website is "behind the times"? | Firstly, what is the deal with the Tactical model? It is the railed top model listed on the FN Herstal website, but the FNH USA page only lists the TR version. Is the Tactical a Europe only version, or is it just that the US website is "behind the times"? | ||
Revision as of 13:29, 29 April 2015
Other Variants
P90 TR and PS90
Do FN actually offer a TR version? As I understood it, the TR version is a figment of airsoft gunmaker Toyko Marui's imagination which was created to allow them to resume production after the mould for their standard P90 sight block broke. I have seen real P90s with triple rail sight blocks in photos, but described as aftermarket parts. Airsoft P90s are so close to the real thing, and P90s are so rarely seen actually firing on film, that I feel it is likely that all or nearly all P90TRs on film are actually airsoft guns.
With the PS90, I thought that was semi-auto only in factory form, sold as the civilian-legal version of the P90, hence the long barrel, much as an HK94 is to an MP5. I'm not certain about either of these things, so I thought it best to ask the pros before changing the page.
The PS90 is according to FN a Semi-Automatic only weapon. As for the P90TR that is offered by FNUSA as a Standard Production Model.Rockwolf66 16:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- The PS90 is really friggin' front heavy-S&Wshooter 05:15, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Wasn't when I held it.--FIVETWOSEVEN 00:33, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Magazines
FN only offers 30 round magazines for the civilian version of this gun but I have heard that the 50 round magazines are fairly easy to find after market. Can anyone confirm or deny this? -Anonymous
- I found a few on impactguns and gunbroker, you can also buy directly from their site fnhusa, and I'm pretty sure you can find some from google.--ThePotShot 04:09, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
- Still don't understand why they ship with 30 round mags instead of 50. All that happens is the new owner of this gun gets it with the 30 rounder, then buys 50s after that.--FIVETWOSEVEN 00:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
Thats the point, if they just gave you a 50rd mag then thats one less thing your gonna buy from em. They can nickel and dime ya to death hah.-Ranger01 10:38, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
- But then theres the aftermarket magazines plus the tooling needed to make those magazines. Its really pointless.--FIVETWOSEVEN 20:09, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
TR
TR stands for Triple Rail not Tactical Rail as it is on the page. I just checked FNH USA's website it is there. --bozitojugg3rn4ut 17:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Question
How powerful is the 5.7x28mm round anyway? Can it penetrate through your standard bulletproof vest? Or can it also penetrate the more heavier bulletproof vests? --ThatoneguyJosh 17:55, 17 March 2011 (CDT)
- The P90 can penetrate through light bulletproof vests (mostly Level II) like those wrapped in Kevlar with ease, but it cannot actually penetrate through the more heavier bulletproof vests. The 5.7x28mm rounds are similar to the 4.6x30mm rounds fired by the MP7. In fact, both the MP7 and the P90 are technically and generally similar in terms of accuracy, compactness, stopping power, and weight (though the P90 is more bulkier than the MP7). The 5.7x28mm rounds are overall powerful, light, and a similar size to the 9mm rounds fired by most submachine guns. - Kenny99 22:09, 16 September 2011 (CDT)
- It can actually penetrate a IIIA vest, or the CRISAT target (1.6mm titanium plate with 20 layers of Kevlar) at 200m. Basically, it will penetrate any soft armour and most helmets at this range, but will be stopped by the hard plates used in most military vests. The MP7 has similar penetration. Of course, this only applies to military ammunition, not the civilian stuff. --commando552 03:33, 17 September 2011 (CDT)
Taxi Listing
The movie page Taxi doesn't have a P90 entry, so either it's missing it or the entry for it here needs to be removed. StanTheMan 12:41, 28 June 2011 (CDT)
P90 Tactical
Firstly, what is the deal with the Tactical model? It is the railed top model listed on the FN Herstal website, but the FNH USA page only lists the TR version. Is the Tactical a Europe only version, or is it just that the US website is "behind the times"?
Secondly, does it deserve its own section? The only show I've found that has used it is Nikita (only checked the TR section though so could be more), is that enough? --commando552 17:54, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
- It seems to be a regular P90 with the reflex scope replaced with a rail. - Mr. Wolf 20:40, 16 August 2011 (CDT)
- That is what it is, but it isn't an aftermarket modification, FN sells it like that as the P90 Tactical as opposed to the regular P90 Standard. They don't appear to offer the P90 TR anymore, this is the only "flat top" model. --commando552 03:36, 17 August 2011 (CDT)
- Not that it necessarily pertains to this conversation, but the P90 in the P90 TR section with the aimpoint and sound suppressor looks like it could be a Tactical instead of a TR, as the scope is sitting higher and the flashlight seems further back than it should be on the TR. Dover500 06:22, 17 September 2011 (CDT)
- Yeah that one is a tactical too, easier way to tell is the fact that the top rail is longer than the upper receiver. Also, you can see that it still has the back up iron sights on the side. Thinking about it, the tactical version has the standard back up iron sights on either side of the upper receiver, but it also has another set of back up iron sights inside the flat top rail (not sure if they are flip up or recessed inside) which means it has three separate sets of iron sights. --commando552 09:21, 17 September 2011 (CDT)
- Not that it necessarily pertains to this conversation, but the P90 in the P90 TR section with the aimpoint and sound suppressor looks like it could be a Tactical instead of a TR, as the scope is sitting higher and the flashlight seems further back than it should be on the TR. Dover500 06:22, 17 September 2011 (CDT)
- That is what it is, but it isn't an aftermarket modification, FN sells it like that as the P90 Tactical as opposed to the regular P90 Standard. They don't appear to offer the P90 TR anymore, this is the only "flat top" model. --commando552 03:36, 17 August 2011 (CDT)
What about P90's reliability?
So,what is the P90? I mean, it looks like a perfect weapon to me. It's small, it's light, fitted with 50 nice 5.7x28mm rounds. And what about gun's reliability and stuff? I really love the gun,and.. is it really THAT perfect? Littlesoldier1 18:21, 29 February 2012 (CST)
- It is a well engineered and built PDW-gun, and has a couple of opportunities compared to other guns, such as the (not-civillian) 50 rounds in the magazine, the overall smooth form, with nothing really sticking out, the fact that it packs a compact size while not loosing accuracy (thanks to the bullpup-layout), and the shells being ejected downwards, making it a perfect gun for left & right handed shooting or shooting in narrow spaces. The downsides are the almost unique calibre, the fact that many people dislike polymer-guns. And guns that look/function unusual always have a hard stand, just look at how the M16 was treated when it was introduced to soldiers.--Maxmali (talk) 07:01, 1 August 2014 (EDT)