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::I've never seen MP7 iron sights like that. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:19, 28 January 2014 (EST) | ::I've never seen MP7 iron sights like that. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 14:19, 28 January 2014 (EST) | ||
:Definitely a fullsize MP5 (A3 likely). The handguard is too long to be a K. [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] ([[User talk:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|talk]]) 14:35, 28 January 2014 (EST) | :Definitely a fullsize MP5 (A3 likely). The handguard is too long to be a K. [[User:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|bozitojugg3rn4ut]] ([[User talk:Bozitojugg3rn4ut|talk]]) 14:35, 28 January 2014 (EST) | ||
::OK, but how this man managed to place his hand between trigger guard and magazine? Or he simply carries his MP5 unloaded? I also cannot explain to myself the strange shape of the rear end (maybe this is a folded UMP-style buttstock?). [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 22:58, 28 January 2014 (EST) | |||
== A Japanese article about this film == | == A Japanese article about this film == | ||
[http://d.hatena.ne.jp/hoghug/20111027/p2 Here] is a Japanese page that also studies firearms in ''22 Bullets''. Can anyone help with translation? Maybe we can find something interesting here. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 22:55, 28 January 2014 (EST) | [http://d.hatena.ne.jp/hoghug/20111027/p2 Here] is a Japanese page that also studies firearms in ''22 Bullets''. Can anyone help with translation? Maybe we can find something interesting here. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 22:55, 28 January 2014 (EST) | ||
Revision as of 03:58, 29 January 2014
Unidentified/Misidentified
This page is a complexity for me as I'm not able to identify many of screen used firearms. So any help would be greatly appreciated. The movie armorer was Maratier Armes & Costumes company (Hitman (2007), District B13, 36th Precinct), and maybe this will also help in identification. Greg-Z (talk) 14:29, 27 January 2014 (EST)
- Contrary to what you claim on the page, Jean Reno only uses the Glock 17L in the movie, never a Glock 17. Though there may be gun-related continuity errors in this movie, the Glock 17/17L switch does not appear to be one of them. -MT2008 (talk) 16:32, 27 January 2014 (EST)
IDs
Okay, here goes:
Unidentified Revolver 1
Maybe a snub-nosed S&W 586?
- The revolver bears a logo and it doesn't look like an S&W logo. Greg-Z (talk) 22:33, 27 January 2014 (EST)
SIG-Sauer P226
These don't look like P226s.
-Yeah, they look more like SP2022s --Warejaws (talk) 15:28, 27 January 2014 (EST)
SIG-Sauer P228
Looks more like a P225. The first image shows the lack of a double-stack bulge and the squared off trigger guard.
- Disagree, it has the wrong grips, and the angle is just off. I think that's just the same P226 that is used elsewhere in the film. -MT2008 (talk) 16:13, 27 January 2014 (EST)
- You're right, you can see the bulges in the second image. --Funkychinaman (talk) 16:18, 27 January 2014 (EST)
M1911-style pistol 2
I think it's a Para Ordnance of some sort. You can see double-stack bulges in the grip in the closeup.
- Judging by the slide makings, it's a P14, but the slide serrations look back-slanted.--Mandolin (talk) 17:38, 27 January 2014 (EST)
Para-Ordnance Nite-Tac
I thought Nite-Tacs had bobbed hammers. You can see the hammer in the second image.
- The Nite-Tac marking is clearly seen on the slide (I rotated the image to read it). Or I'm wrong? Greg-Z (talk) 22:33, 27 January 2014 (EST)
- Exactly the same version of Nite-Tac Greg-Z (talk) 00:07, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- I thought Nite-Tacs were double-stack. The images on the Nite-Tac page has double-stack bulges, while the one in the screencap and your link do not. Is the information on the page correct then? I don't think you'd be able to fit 14 rounds of .45 or 16 rounds of .40 without double stack bulges. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:59, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- Well, some googling shows that there are single stack 8-round and double stack 14-round pistols in .45 caliber and both exist under the same name Nite-Tac without any additions. For example, here we see several single stack Nite-Tac pistols and next page (cannot put a direct link on it; need choose "Items 11-13" on the bottom of the first page) shows several double stack Nite-Tacs. Except bulges, they also have different triggers (but this may be a pure optional feature). Greg-Z (talk) 13:26, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- Is the Nite-Tac actually a model then, or a series of pistols? Because I'm seeing single and double stack, bobbed and unbobbed hammers, and different sizes. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:19, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- Seems to be the latter. Manufacturer's webcite doesn't contain Nite-Tac but visually same pistols are now produced under Elite and Expert trademarks. BTW, the company itself changed name in 2009 from Para-Ordnance to Para USA (they moved to North Carolina). Greg-Z (talk) 22:36, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- Is the Nite-Tac actually a model then, or a series of pistols? Because I'm seeing single and double stack, bobbed and unbobbed hammers, and different sizes. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:19, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- Well, some googling shows that there are single stack 8-round and double stack 14-round pistols in .45 caliber and both exist under the same name Nite-Tac without any additions. For example, here we see several single stack Nite-Tac pistols and next page (cannot put a direct link on it; need choose "Items 11-13" on the bottom of the first page) shows several double stack Nite-Tacs. Except bulges, they also have different triggers (but this may be a pure optional feature). Greg-Z (talk) 13:26, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- I thought Nite-Tacs were double-stack. The images on the Nite-Tac page has double-stack bulges, while the one in the screencap and your link do not. Is the information on the page correct then? I don't think you'd be able to fit 14 rounds of .45 or 16 rounds of .40 without double stack bulges. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:59, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- Exactly the same version of Nite-Tac Greg-Z (talk) 00:07, 28 January 2014 (EST)
Rampoli's pistol
Maybe a SIG P210?
Vasetto's pistol
- Is the pistol on the first image really the same with the two-tone one on following screenshots? Greg-Z (talk) 22:33, 27 January 2014 (EST)
Rabou's pistol
Looks like a USP.
UMP 9
I think these are just MP5s with UMP stocks.
Unknowns
Looks like a Heckler & Koch G36C.
--Funkychinaman (talk) 14:56, 27 January 2014 (EST)
That Para
Once again, that is not a P-14 but a P-18-9. You can clearly see P18-9 on the slide. The Hitman movie has the same gun.
bozitojugg3rn4ut (talk) 04:55, 28 January 2014 (EST)
Paolini's pistol
My guess would be a Taurus PT92. What looks like a frame-mounted safety is visible. bozitojugg3rn4ut (talk) 07:13, 28 January 2014 (EST)
Unknowns
Is that an MP5 or MP5K? It's got the H&K-style sights. --Funkychinaman (talk) 13:10, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- I had such idea but the space between the trigger guard and the magazine on MP5s seems too little to put a hand there while on the screenshot we see a hand next to trigger guard. Can it be MP7? Greg-Z (talk) 13:31, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- I've never seen MP7 iron sights like that. --Funkychinaman (talk) 14:19, 28 January 2014 (EST)
- Definitely a fullsize MP5 (A3 likely). The handguard is too long to be a K. bozitojugg3rn4ut (talk) 14:35, 28 January 2014 (EST)
A Japanese article about this film
Here is a Japanese page that also studies firearms in 22 Bullets. Can anyone help with translation? Maybe we can find something interesting here. Greg-Z (talk) 22:55, 28 January 2014 (EST)