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[[Image:......reid.jpg|thumb|left|400px|Reid with his [[Smith & Wesson Model 65|S&W Model 65]] holstered strangely.]]
[[Image:.....screencap.jpg|thumb|none|200px|Production image of Morgan ([[Shemar Moore]]) with his Glock ]]
[[Image:Agent_morgan.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Morgan with his Glock 17 while talking to a suspect.]]
[[Image:Agent_morgan.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Morgan with his Glock 17 while talking to a suspect.]]
[[Image:Mod65reid.jpg|thumb|none|275px|Spencer Reid with [[Smith & Wesson Model 65|Model 65]] drawn, about to enter a room where a suspect is holed up while Morgan holds his [[Glock 17]] pistol.]]
[[Image:Mod65reid.jpg|thumb|none|275px|Spencer Reid with [[Smith & Wesson Model 65|Model 65]] drawn, about to enter a room where a suspect is holed up while Morgan holds his [[Glock 17]] pistol.]]
Error creating thumbnail: File missingThe actual guns used in Criminal Minds from the set, picture posted on twitter by Criminal Minds makeup artist Anna Fleiner (@annafleiner). From top to bottom, Morgan (SIG Sauer P226 with Surefire light), Hotch (Glock 17), Prentiss(Glock 19), JJ (Glock 26), Reid (S&W 65).
Correction: The tac-light on Morgan's gun is a TLR-1 Streamlight-- not a Surefire. You can clearly read the markings on it.--Suceress2 13:34, 1 April 2012 (CDT)
I forgot to mention that the stock grips on Morgan's gun were replaced with Hogue Model 26000 molded rubber grips with finger grooves (which sell for around $25).--Suceress2 11:43, 3 April 2012 (CDT)
Additional Screenshots
Morgan with his Glock 17 while talking to a suspect.File:Mod65reid.jpgSpencer Reid with Model 65 drawn, about to enter a room where a suspect is holed up while Morgan holds his Glock 17 pistol.File:Bank guard.jpgA bank guard enters a brief standoff with a bank robber before surrendering weapon.
-Reid is using what is called the "appendix carry".--Suceress2 19:30, 2 April 2012 (CDT)
Backup from single page
I'm trimming the individual season pages to guns that only appeared on that season (that were listed), I know I may have missed one or two or misplaced a screenshot here or there so I'm taking the previous full list/page (when it was just the one page for the whole show) and posting it here as a backup. As we go, I'm sure we can reduce and eventually eliminate it, but consider it a safety-net for the meantime. The discussion is below this, I trust that hopefully it too will be trimmed and moved to the appropriate season page(s)StanTheMan (talk) 14:40, 19 April 2013 (EDT)
Handguns
Glock 17
Third-Generation Glock 17 pistols were for a long time the predominant weapon carried by almost all of the show's main male characters. FBI Supervisory Special Agent Derek Morgan (Shemar Moore) carried his Glock 17 with a Streamlight TLR-2 weaponlight/laser module throughout most of his time on the show. B.A.U. (Behavior Analysis Unit) Chief SSA Aaron Hotchner (Thomas Gibson) and Dr. Spencer Reid (Matthew Gray Gubler) were also both frequently seen with standard Glock 17's. Of these three individuals, only Hotchner continues to carry a Glock 17. Jason Gideon (Mandy Patinkin) used a Glock 17 in the pilot episode. Afterward, Gideon uses a SIG-Sauer P226, while Reid later exchanged his own Glock for a .357 Smith & Wesson Model 65 revolver. Sometime at the beginning of Season 6, Morgan started to carry a SIG-Sauer P226R (fitted with a TLR-1 Streamlight attachment) as his sidearm. At the end of the Season 2 Episode "The Big Game", 'Tobias' (James Van Der Beek) knocks down Reid and briefly threatens him with his Glock 17. Other FBI agents and some police officers are seen with Glock 17 pistols.
SSA Emily Prentiss (Paget Brewster) uses a Third-Generation Glock 19 as her sidearm. Her predecessor, SSA Elle Greenaway (Lola Glaudini) also used the Glock 19 throughout Season 1 and her episodes in Season 2. Another Glock 19 is used by a police detective to fire a few shots at a fleeing criminal, although he misses and the criminal commits suicide by driving off a cliff. Also carried by NYPD officers.
The Glock 26 is the backup weapon carried by both Aaron Hotchner (Thomas Gibson) and Derek Morgan (Shemar Moore), both carried in ankle holsters. In the Season 1 episode "L.D.S.K.", Hotchner tricks the 'Long Distance Serial Killer' into letting him beat Reid (Matthew Gray Gubler), but the kicks are a ruse to allow Reid to take the gun from Hotchner's ankle holster. Reid then kills the LDSK with a shot to the forehead, though later claims he was aiming for the LDSK's leg. Morgan's Glock 26 is shown in two instances in Season 3 - First in the episode "In Name and Blood", where he gives it to Prentiss (Paget Brewster) to use when she enters the house of a unsub (She did not have her standard Glock 19 at the time) and again in the episode "Penelope", giving it to B.A.U. Technical Analyst Penelope Garcia (Kirsten Vangsness) to defend herself when an unsub (later identified as Jason Clark Battle (Bailey Chase) comes to her apartment trying to kill her after failing the first time. She thankfully does not need to use the weapon however, Battle fleeing after a short firefight with Morgan. A Glock 26 pistol is also the duty weapon of the B.A.U.'s 'Communications Liaison' (and later active analyst) SSA Jennifer 'J.J.' Jareau (A.J. Cook). She is seen with it several times in the show, notably using it in the episode "Penelope" to kill Jason Clark Battle.
SSA David Rossi (Joe Mantegna) carries a Springfield Armory TRP, a model of which is used by the FBI's elite HRT, throughout the series, this suggests he may have been HRT/SWAT trained to use this weapon. Rossi also has a background of serving in the U.S. Marine Corps, which also possibly helps explain his use of a 1911-type pistol.
FBI Senior SSA Jason Gideon (Mandy Patinkin) carries a SIG-Sauer P226 as his sidearm during his time in the BAU. This is a realistic weapon since the FBI did issue the P226. Hotchner has been seen with one a few times, but almost always carries a Glock 17 pistol.
Special Agent Derek Morgan (Shemar Moore) switches to a new SIG-Sauer P226R fitted with a Streamlight TLR-1 weaponlight, which he is seen carrying starting in Season 6. His SIG can be identified as the P226R by the tactical rail, redesigned grips and trigger.
Reid's captor 'Tobias' (James Van Der Beek) uses a early-version Smith & Wesson Military & Police revolver to taunt Reid with a Russian-roulette like game several times in the Season 2 episode "Revelations". Reid gets a hold of the gun when 'Tobias' leaves it unattended and is forced to kill him when his evil personality attacks Reid. It can be noted as a M&P revolver due to the Smith & Wesson style cylinder latch (The earliest M&P revolvers lack the typical Smith ejector-rod socket, akin to most older Colt revolvers).
A serial killer called 'Animal' in the Season 4 episode "Brothers in Arms" uses what appears to be an N-frame Smith & Wesson Model 27 / 28 .357 Magnum revolver (Most likely a Model 28) to kill at least six people (four of whom were cops).
A serial killer known as the 'Hollow Man' is tracked down in St. Louis, where he uses a standard Smith & Wesson Model 29 revolver, loaded with hollow point rounds (hence the name), to kill prostitutes in the Season 2's "The Last Word".
Standard J-frame Smith & Wesson Model 36 revolvers are used by numerous unsubs (short for 'unknown-subjects') throughout the show. In the Season 3 episode "Lucky", Jason Clark Battle (Bailey Chase) uses a Model 36 to shoot Garcia on her doorstep. Flashbacks of this scene appear in the next episode "Penelope" as well. A Deputy Sheriff in Terlingua, Texas also uses a Model 36 in the Season 5 episode "Rite of Passage". In the Season 4 episode "The Angel Maker", a female unsub also has a Model 36 revolver.
Special Agent Dr. Spencer Reid (Matthew Gray Gubler) carries as his main weapon a 3" barrel Smith & Wesson Model 65 with wood-colored grips starting in the Season 4 episode "The Angel Maker". He carries his sidearm in a very frontal appendix-carry (as he also did with his previous Glock 17), a manner in-which a militia leader once said "The way you wear that gun - you're just asking someone to take it off of you boy." In addition, he carries the double action revolver in a holster that does not cover the trigger guard, something that is not generally advisable. Reid notably uses it in Season 5 opening episode "Nameless, Faceless" to shoot Patrick Meyers (Michael Adler) when he raises his gun back up (after having previously lowered it).
An older model Smith & Wesson 4506 with the square trigger guard and frame bulge is used in the Season 4 episode "Minimal Loss" by Benjamin Cyrus (Luke Perry). A serial arsonist also uses one in the Season 2 Episode "Ashes & Dust", but refuses to fire it noticing the benzene-filled building would explode from the muzzle flash.
Beretta 92FS pistols are used by many characters, including criminals and police officers, notably by the terrorist Ben Abner to kill three Secret Service agents exiting a hospital elevator in Season 4's "Mayhem". Jason Clark Battle (Bailey Chase) is seen with a 92FS at BAU headquarters.
A terror cell kills several civilians and and one member wounds a detective, using Beretta 950 Jetfire pistols. Police ballistic analysts state it is chambered in .22 long rifle, and explains the caliber was most likely used since NYC background noise was often louder than the report of a .22lr.
In the Season 1 Episode "Somebody's Watching", Maggie (Katheryn Winnick) wields what appears to be a Colt Official Police against Lila Archer (Amber Heard), who is being protected by Reid. Reid gets ahold of this weapon in a struggle and holds it on Maggie.
A female serial killer is seen pulling what appears to be a SIG-Sauer P232 on one of her victims in a Dallas parking garage in Season 4's "Pleasure Is My Business" (S4E16).
Various M1911A1 pistols are seen several times throughout the series. In the Season 1 episode "Derailed", a man named Anderson who ends up as a hostage onboard a train can be seen with a stainless steel M1911A1 in his briefcase, a flashback at the start of the episode showing him having packed it when heading to Dallas to meet his wife to resolve a dispute. He ultimately uses it to end the hostage crisis by shooting the hostage-taker as he's struggling with Reid (Matthew Gray Gubler). Also used by an unsub known as the "Fisher King" to shoot Agent Elle Greenaway (Lola Glaudini) in the Season 1 finale episode. In the Season 5 episode "100", George Foyet/'The Reaper' (C. Thomas Howell) uses an M1911A1 to shoot U.S. Marshal Sam Kassmeyer (D.B. Sweeney) several times when interrogating him on the location of Hotchner's wife & child, as well as fatally shooting Hotchner's wife when he finally finds them. He also fires it several times at Hotchner while fighting with him, but misses him.
In the episode "Lauren", Prentiss leaves her issue Glock behind when going it alone to find Ian Doyle (Timothy V. Murphy). She then interrogates an Irish mob informant at gunpoint with a Heckler & Koch USP, shooting his ear off when she finishes questioning him.
Throughout the series, FBI SWAT and several local police tactical units carry M4A1 carbines, both standard models and variants with various accessories. A militia member is seen with one holding a hostage on a hilltop in the Season 3 episode "Identity". A teenage unsub also uses a standard M4A1 throughout the Season 3 episode "Elephant's Memory". In another episode, a killer guns down 3 of his enemies with a fully automatic AR-15, possibly class 3 or illegally converted since it is described as privately owned. In the Season 1 episode "L.D.S.K.", a shooter uses a modified scoped AR-15 from the trunk of a car (reminiscent of the D.C. sniper incident), aiming to wound people so he can attend to the wounds as part of a hero complex.
In the Season 2 episode "Distress", Roy Woodridge (Holt McCallany), a U.S. Army Ranger and veteran of Somalia suffering from a PTSD-related psychotic break, sees militia with various AKMs, but it's an illusion as they are actually SWAT officers with M4A1 Carbines. In a retelling of his past, he can be seen killing a child soldier armed with a Norinco Type 56.
Another weapon used by the cult in the episode "Minimal Loss" is the AKMSU carbine, notably the leader Benjamin Cyrus (Luke Perry). Like many AKMSUs in the film industry, these guns are outfitted with Krinkov parts kits to resemble AKS-74U carbines, but have a notably more curved 7.62x39mm magazine, as opposed to the AKS-74U's relatively straighter magazine. In the episodes "Valhalla" and "Lauren", a group of ex-IRA members can be seen armed with AKMSU's fitted with railed handguards and RIS foregrips & EOTech red dot sights, engaging in a shootout with Prentiss and Morgan when the two catch them leaving the home of a victim.
In Season 2's "Psychodrama" (S2E04), the bank robber Sheppard (Jason Wiles) uses a MAC-10 fitted with a barrel shroud throughout the episode. In a brief standoff, he convinces a guard to surrender based on the fact he'd go down spraying at civilians.
Heckler & Koch MP5A2s are used by various SWAT teams, notably by FBI SWAT in Season 4's "Minimal Loss" (S4E03) during the rescue at the polygamist compound. In the episode, the gunfire of the MP5A2's appear to sound like suppressed fire, but no suppressors are seen on the weapons.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingHeckler & Koch MP5A2 with Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight - 9x19mm.File:Mp5.jpgIn Season 4's "Minimal Loss" (S4E03), an FBI SWAT agent is armed with the MP5A2 while entering the polygamist compound.Error creating thumbnail: File missingSWAT officers surrounds a car where an imitation sniper is hiding in the trunk.
Heckler & Koch MP5A3
Derek Morgan (Shemar Moore) and David Rossi (Joe Mantegna) use Heckler & Koch MP5A3s with dedicated SureFire lights in Season 5's "Rite of Passage" (S5E19). They deploy them because the region of Texas they are traveling to is close to the Mexico-U.S. border, and since there is a high possibility of armed attack (because drug and alien-immigration cartels directly target and place bounties on U.S. law enforcement agents, especially Federal agents), they may need the additional firepower.
In Season 6's "Lauren" (S6E18), Prentiss wields a Heckler & Koch MP5K when ambushing Doyle's entourage as they're leaving a pub, shooting several of Doyle's men, though loses the weapon when Doyle stuns her by shooting her in her bulletproof vest. In Season 7's "Dorado Falls" (S7E03), Luke Dolan (Max Martini) is seen armed with the MP5K throughout the episode.
In a flashback during the Season 2 episode "Distress", Somali militiamen are seen riding in a pickup truck converted into a 'technical', the vehicle armed with a Browning M2HB heavy machine gun mounted in the bed.
In Season 4's two-part finale "To Hell" (Part 1) - "...And Back" (Part 2), former U.S. Army Sergeant William Hightower (Sharif Atkins), whose sister was abducted and later murdered by an unsub team, takes an unguarded Remington 870 fitted with a Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight and speedfeed stock, using it to kill one of the unsubs after hearing his callous justification for his actions, dropping the weapon and surrendering to the agents after firing the fatal shot. In Season 3's "3rd Life" (S3E12), former hitman Jack Vaughan (Fredric Lane) holds the 870 on his daughter's captor.
A sawed off Remington 870 Field Gun shotgun with raised barrel ribbing is used by the 'Road Warrior' killer (Mitch Pileggi) in the Season 4 episode "Normal". The shotgun has been fitted a custom brace on the pump that attaches to his windowsill and allows him to rack the slide and fire from inside his car at motorists while driving. Another such shotgun is also used by several militant activists who try to massacre a tribal school in Season 1's "The Tribe".
Rossi (Joe Mantegna) is seen hunting with a Over-and-Under Double Barrel Shotgun at the beginning of the Season 3 episode "About Face" (S3E06), his first episode on the series. It should be noted that actor Joe Mantegna is a big skeet shooter in real life.
Aaron Hotchner (Thomas Gibson) wields what appears to be a Mossberg 500 'Persuader' shotgun in the Season 4 episode "Brothers in Arms".
Error creating thumbnail: File missingMossberg 500 "Persuader" with standard five-shot magazine tube - 12 gauge. This is the most commonly produced version of the 500 series today.File:CM 125.jpgAaron Hotchner (Thomas Gibson) wields what appears to be a Mossberg 500 'Persuader' shotgun in the Season 4 episode "Brothers in Arms".
Sniper Rifles
Remington 700PSS
A Remington 700PSS model is seen in use by various SWAT teams, notably in the episode "Distress" to shoot a Somalia veteran suffering from PTSD who tried to get a child out of harm's way but this act was mistaken for an attack.
In Season 3's "Identity" (S3E07), Harris Townsend (Pat Skipper), a militia leader deputized by the sheriff, uses a Winchester Model 70 fitted with a scope and Harris bipod to kill a crazy former militia member and save a hostage. He gives the team the spent shell.
In Season 5's "The Fight" (S5E18), FBI SSA Mick Rawson (Matt Ryan) takes aim with a SVD Dragunov sniper rifle fitted with a scope and bipod. The rifle is an unusual choice for an American federal agent (however, it's mentioned that Rawson is former British SAS).
In Season 3's "Identity" (S3E07), militia member Francis Goehring (Michael Cudlitz) pulls the pin on an M26 hand grenade when stopped by law enforcement.
I hope I'm doing this right. I noticed that the attachment listed for Morgan's Glock 17 is a Surefire x400; but if you look closely at the screen captures you can see a silver/white ring on the attachment. If you compare it to pictures of the x400 it doesn't match up; however, the TLR-2 Streamlight has the silver ring. So I believe he actually has a TLR-2 attachment rather than x400. Does anyone have different screen captures in which it looked like he had the x400? Or was that just a guess by someone? I do wonder why, if he already had the TLR-2, he seems to have gone to a TLR-1 for his P226R.
Pictures for reference:
Glock 17 with Surefire x400 attachment
I may be wrong but it looks to me that morgan's SIG may be a E2 model P226? i looked at a picture and it looks like the new grips and trigger? can anyone else confirm this?
-I have no clue what the difference is. I admit I am woefully ignorant about guns but I am trying to learn a bit more. I know it is the P226R because it has a rail, but I think you are right about the grips being different from the standard ones that I saw in pictures. Perhaps they are just custom grip replacements? The pictures I saw of e2 and "elite" models didn't have the two screws in them like the one on Morgan's gun. I don't know jack about how to identify the grips though. As it is, I can't even make out any markings on the gun in the picture from the crew member from CM. --Suceress2
These grips are not the E2 grips they are Hogue grips. However it does have the short reset trigger, so it could be either an E2 or the current production P226. The only way to tell the different is that the E2 will have a white "E2" logo at the front of the right hand side of the slide, so you would need to see this part before you could tell for sure. However, I believe that the switch from the dedicated E2 variant to having the E2 features on the standard 226 happened March 2011, so if the episode pre-dates this then it cant be the newer model P226. This doesn't necessarily make it an E2 though as the SRT was a custom option on P226s so you would have to look at the right side of the frame. --commando552 03:48, 5 April 2012 (CDT)
Thanks, Commando552. I forgot to edit to note that I did identify the grips. For some reason the set photo was so fuzzy it was hard to see, but I realized it was Hogue model 26000 rubber grips with finger grooves. I've heard that you need larger hands to use them but that they are comfortable. I haven't paid much attention to Morgan's hands so I don't know. The switch happened at the beginning of season 6-- so I believe it was in 2011. I'm guessing it is the newer gun. I'm going to show my ignorance here, but where is the reset trigger and how can you tell that it is shorter? I have no idea what to look for and when I tried to compare pictures of E2s with regular P226s they looked the same to me (probably because I'm not sure exactly where to look).--Suceress2 01:51, 8 April 2012 (CDT)
The Short Reset Trigger (SRT) is a new trigger design that was first on the E2 but is now on the standard P226 (and P220, P229 etc.). Internally is has a different sear so the trigger resets after a shorter distance after pulling the trigger, but externally it also uses a new design for the trigger itself which is thinner and looks slightly longer and more "hooked" (compare the trigger shapes on the two guns below). --commando552 04:29, 8 April 2012 (CDT)
-Ahhh! Now I see it! I'm going to say that you are right that Morgan has the newest version of the gun rather than the E2 because it looks like the E2 grips don't have the screw holes whereas Morgan's gun does. Thank you very much! For some reason I kept thinking that it was one of the buttons/slides/levers or whatever that was different, not the trigger itself. Now that you told me what to look for it is very obvious. Would it be ok with you if I quoted you a bit and used some of that info to update the criminal minds wikia wiki? The information on the guns there is rather sparse. Also, thank you for the information on the model being from 2011 because I was trying to figure out an approximate year for Morgan's gun. Now if I could figure out what year Gideon's gun was from (or at least ballpark it and figure out which version he had-- I'm going to go out on a limb and say it was post 1998 when the trigger spring was updated to be less damaging to the gun). Edit to add: I saw a screencap of Morgan using the gun in a season 6 episode from 2010, so now I'm not sure anymore. I couldn't match the sights on his gun with any of the pictures I saw online. What do you think?
I think he SRT could be ordered on custom guns, or fitted after-market by a gunsmith, so that doesn't necessarily make it an E2, you would have to find a shot of the right side of the slide to know if it was an E2 without the slimline grips, or a P226 with the SRT added. I would guess those are just the standard sights, but look slightly off due to the focus/lighting. --commando552 05:35, 9 April 2012 (CDT)
This is the best picture I've found of the right side so far. Sadly it seems rather blurry as well. Can you make out any of the markings on it?
Morgan in season 7 compare to two-tone from Sig-Sauer website
Error creating thumbnail: File missingTwo-Tone P226 This would be less confusing if the gun shown in the case was not a single tone (or at least not as drastic of a difference in tone).--Suceress2 15:28, 10 April 2012 (CDT)
Update: I spent a lot of time examining HQ screen caps, as well as pictures of the various guns and couldn't figure out why I couldn't match Morgan's gun from the case to any of the pictures on the sig sauer website or guns belonging to people. I was puzzled as to why the view of Morgan's gun in the case was so fuzzy that the markings were not visible-- and then I realized its because there are no markings. The gun they use for Morgan is a Metal Gas Blowback Airsoft F226 gun. They just took the orangey red plastic thing off the front. LOL. http://www.airsplat.com/Items/GP-WE-SIG-F226.htm Now I just feel silly.--Suceress2 00:45, 14 April 2012 (CDT)
Joe Mantegna
He is a gunsite graduate and pro gun actor. Hell of a shooter too.--James3 21:11, 7 April 2011 (CDT)
found out
Joe Mantegna is a big second ammendment supporter, and loves shooting sports. He particularly likes shotguns and has stated distaste for hypocricy in hollywood and says that it makes him sick an actor will use guns in movies to boost career then preach on how bad they are. Think its cool, and he definitey knows how to use that TRP.
Reid and his revolver. Why?
Why did Reid switch to revolver? Yes the F.B.I. authorized the S&W Model 10 with 3" barrel and the round butt grip configuration in the mid seventies. And in the late eighties authorized the S&W Model 13 with 3" barrel and round butt grip, but Ried would have been a kid in the late eighties See: Silence of the Lambs and Dead Bang. I suppose it might be something of a nod to the old timers and perhaps a clever way to link the show to Silence of the Lambs , but I can't find any info about the switch either in a backstory or actual reality.--Jcordell 12:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps he found a revolver easier to use/maintain, who knows. My question is what's wrong with him having a revolver? StanTheMan 01:05, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Nothing is wrong with him having a revolver ( like revolvers personally ), but I doubt that the F.B.I. would authorize him to carry one. But let's not hung up on reality. I'm just wondering if there was a backstory to the switch. Reid is a thinker. A genius. Why would he do this assuming that he did get a waiver to carry a non-authorized handgun. --Jcordell 01:53, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ah. Well, I don't think there was any real explanation in-show for the change, at least not that I've seen yet. Guess that's just another reason to watch the show more, heh. StanTheMan 02:49, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, there's no official explanation that I can find that explains the change. If it is meant to be a nod to Lambs and the like (Julianne Moore's Sterling uses an almost identical gun in the alternate ending of Hannibal), that's cool, and probably likely. Of course Matthew Gray Gubler himself might prefer the revolver, be it personally or even for his character. I always found revolvers much simpler and practical than semiautos in many cases, and Gubler/Reid might think the same way. I also notice that the more 'unique' characters (Reid, Rossi/Mantegna, and Gideon/Patinkin) all have their own unique guns than the rest of the team's Glocks (Rossi with the Springfield TRP 1911, Gideon with the P226 and Reid with the Model 65) but they all (mostly) correlate to actual-issue FBI weapons, albeit a bit more distantly in Reid's case. Also a shoutout to the user who got the 3-inch Model 65 image. StanTheMan 16:05, 21 July 2011 (CDT)
- I believe at some point at one of the chats or on one of the social sites or something behind the scenes they mentioned that Gubler wanted the revolver because he thought it was more vintage and would better suit Reid's tastes. Gubler himself uses revolvers when visiting his mother's ranch (she runs a dude ranch in Las Vegas called Sandy Valley Ranch). I am guessing he went with the 3-inch model for comfort since he uses the appendix carry for it. A longer barrel might jab him. (shoutout back at you-- since I found the 3-inch model image-- I wish I'd known during my initial search that it was described as a 65-3 instead of trying to search for 3" or 3 inch, putting in 65-3 made things simpler the last time i looked). A pity I forgot my original login information and it wouldn't send anything to my e-mail when I requested my password. D'oh.
- I read the same thing. Gubler thought that the revovler is more "Reid" than an automatic and the bit about he himself being more experienced with revolvers. I also read (not sure if it was in the same place) that he carries appendix style because that makes it easier for him, as Reid, to keep his hands in his pockets, which he felt would be more in character for Dr. Reid. Glamdring 19:06, 24 June 2012 (CDT)
Springfield
The FBI uses the Springfield Professional, available only through their custom shop. The TRP is a mass produced model that's cheaper and designed for civilians, it has many of the same features as the professional. They're two completely different weapons but both this page and the page for Numbers make the same mistake of saying the TRP is used by the FBI.
Currently getting some screencaps from footage, should be up later.
Screencap.
The TRP was originally produced with 2 variants. One was the standard TRP then the FBI contract pistol was known as the TRP Pro model. Springfield has since done away with the TRP Pro model and offered the Springfield Custom Professional. It is identical to the TRP Pro. The FBI contract pistol has a long history. Problems with all the submissions made it difficult to choose one. Original models were made by Les Baer and were high capacity models. The original Springfield model chosen by the FBI was the TRP Pro.--Ram229 11:26, 7 February 2012 (CST)
- Ok, so I'm confused... What is the exact name of the gun Rossi carries? Springfield Armory Professional TRP? Does it go by M1911 or 1911 or is that just a similar gun? --Suceress2
I agree with the original post. He is using a Custom Shop Springfield. I have the screen cap here:
The slide markings in the the front of the pistol tell the story.
CZ75
File:Cz 75.jpgCult leader threatens agent Prentiss with a stainless CZ-75b
I still say it is a Smith & Wesson single stack pistol, likely a .45. If you look, the slide is different, the grip design is different, the trigger guard curvature is different, and the hammer is different. I'd say it is a 4506 early model with the squared trigger guard. - Gunmaster45
Glock 17
The Glock 17s that you show in the screen grabs are second generation based on the lack of rails. You posted a picture of the 3rd gen(with finger grooves and rail) instead. Something to note. --ManiacallyChallenged 08:53, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Whoa, am I off base. The Glock 17 2nd gen, is actually a Glock 19 second gen. My bad. --ManiacallyChallenged 08:58, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Back again, I guess. The unknown rifle is a Winchester Model 70 in 30.06. --ManiacallyChallenged 09:08, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Usr:K9870 Agent Morgan's glock is the most commonly seen glock on screen and his has the rail for his light attachment.Ill change my rifle, what ones a glock 19?
The police detective picture has a glock 19. I changed it already. --ManiacallyChallenged 22:02, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Glock 17 Duex
I know as a general rule that whenever we see a Glock in a movie, unless proven otherwise, it is assumed to be a 9mm Glock. But I think that it's safe to assume that the BAU team (with the exception of Reid, Gideon, and Rossi) all use Glock 22s. I mean, this show is incredibly accurate as far as how the real life FBI BAU operates, so they would obviously use the same firearms. Plus, the sidearms of the other agents are accurate too. For example, Rossi carries a Springfield Armory TRP, which is what the real life FBI HRT uses as well. Gideon, an older FBI agent, uses a SIG Sauer P226, a weapon that has been previously used by the FBI (indicating that he became an FBI agent during this period). So it's clearly more likely that the agents use Glock 22's. This same statement applies to Agent Hotchner's backup Glock (it's most likely a Glock 27, not a 26). Gunman69
One scene had a militaia leader analyze reid and morgan's guns, he said quote "Glock 17, Tactical, But european, I prefer to carry american hardware." Also, the G22 is similar to a 17 so they probably didn't expect viewers to pick up on it.
Who would care if they do notice I don't think anyone is gonna be like "How the hell can Morgan have Glock 17 the FBI uses the Glock 22" really who gives a shit personally i'd take the 17 to the 22 any day. 24guns
- I would say from the picture Anna Fleiner shared that we have our answer as to what models were being used. The gun marked for Hotch was clearly a 17, Prentiss a 19, and JJ's a 26. I think they gave Prentiss the gun Elle used and that Seaver had JJ's gun for awhile. Did anyone get a good enough look at Ashley Seaver's gun to tell if it was a 26 or a 19? I couldn't tell. --Suceress2
here is a screen cap of Hotch's Glock. I am not good at this, can someone tell by bore diameter what caliber it is?
If you have any other questions, I have seasons 1-4 dvd, and can provide screencaps from any episodes in those seasons. --giantpandadestroyer
You overwrote someone else's shot for the film 48 Hours so it was reverted. Re-upload your pic with a unique title. MoviePropMaster2008 00:46, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Further more, the Oregon detective appears to be firing a Glock 23. Look at the bore
Its seems to be a larger bore. But at .40 v 9mm it is hard to tell. I would call it a Glock 22 but the arguement rages through IMFDB.--2.24.85.170 14:21, 23 April 2011 (CDT)
Compact 1911 Variant
Does anyone have an ID on the compact 1911 used by the leader of the San Francisco team (Forest Whitaker) in "The Fight" (5x18)?-Snake Doc
MP-5 Use
I forget which episode it was but Morgan proceeds to fire an MP-5 on full auto through the windshield of the SUV he is a passenger in in order to stop an "un-sub". What I found interesting and realistic about that was that the driver of the vehicle called him crazy for firing a full auto weapon in such confined quarters nearly deafening her. Most other shows show little or no consequence for such a thing. --Charon68 22:15, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, and Rossi had his hearing damaged by a gunshot in another episode.
Smith & Wesson Stealth Hunter?
I personally don`t think the revolver is a Stealth Hunter. Yesterday I re watched the whole episode, and the revolver was like this variation of 629 performance center compensated barell:
In the episode, when he´s aiming at Derek, you can see what I`m saying, and there`s a better slide shot. If I had the season dvd, I´d screencap it myself. What do you think? -Thebarry1394
- Certainly could be a blue-steel version of that Performance Center variant. I do remember the cuts on the bottom being prominent in some scenes. Still, I think we should try to get other screencaps/pictures before changing it to be sure. StanTheMan 13:48, 13 July 2011 (CDT)
It is a Performance center there are several pics online of it.
Criminal Minds:Suspect Behavior
Anyone gonna add a new page for the new Criminal Minds spin-off? --L.J. Gibbs 15:22, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't know how to set up a new page, but Beau Garrett and Janeane Garofalo both use Glock 17's, along with several FBI agents. Matt Ryan wields a SW99 and Michael Kelly has an earlier model S&W auto, possibly a 5946. Not sure about Forest Whitaker's sidearm. Hope this helps.
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Ben saves the day again!
Appreciate getting some newer (read:better) screenshots and some new ones, I've been having a hard time getting some myself, though I think a few aren't too bad. ;b Also, I hope it's ok that I've re-arranged this page and moved another couple of images over here. StanTheMan 16:05, 21 July 2011 (CDT)
Rifles used in "Lauren"
I believe that the suppressed rifles used by the BAU team and the FBI SWAT Team in "Lauren" were suppressed M4A1s.L.J. Gibbs 10:04, 1 August 2011 (CDT)
Doyle's Suppressed Handgun
I believe that the suppressed pistol used by Ian Doyle to kiil Tsia Moesely in "Valhalla" was a SIG Sauer P220 Combat Tactical with a suppressor. I am making that assumption based on the fact that Morgan said that the GSW's were caused by a forty-five caliber pistol.L.J. Gibbs 10:04, 1 August 2011 (CDT)
When a show says a caliber of a firearm, don't believe it, unless the film is by Michael Mann, the caliber of the firearm in the script can be different from what is actually shown.Bristow8411 20:17, 10 April 2012 (CDT)
Doyle's Unsuppressed Pistol
I believe that Ian Doyle's unsuppressed pistol, used in "Lauren," was a SIG Sauer P226.L.J. Gibbs 10:04, 1 August 2011 (CDT)
More Pages
i think criminal minds should have a page for each season to show off the selection of guns more.
The Beretta(s) used by Randy Slade in "Painless"
I believe, after reviewing the footage from the episode, that Randy Slade used both a Beretta 92FS and Beretta 92FS Non-Gun in the flashbacks during the hostage situation.
Maggie's revolver in "Somebody's Watching"
I think that Maggie's revolver is a .22 Harrison & Richardson model, possibly a Model 929 Sidekick. Near the beginning of the episode when Maggie threatens her 3rd victim you can see the Harrison & Richardson frame, and that the revolver has a small barrel and a short cylinder. One of the officers also calls her weapon a ".22 caliber handgun".
-Desertrat17
I'd have to see a screenshot, but I clearly recall it still looking a lot like the Colt. The Official Police is available in .22LR. StanTheMan (talk) 14:53, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
SSA Alex Blake's pistol
SSA Alex Blake (Jeanne Tripplehorn)'s primary sidearm appears to be either a SIG-Sauer P229R or a SIG-Sauer P229 (new model). --L.J. Gibbs (talk) 18:38, 13 December 2012 (EST)
Gideon's SIG
FBI Senior SSA Jason Gideon's SIG looks more like a SIG-Sauer P228 in the second picture. The first picture looks like it could even be a single stack version like the P225 or P220. --Thejoker (talk) 20:18, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
The gun in the second screen looks too big for a 228/229 so I'd have to say it's a larger gun, most likely a 226. I'd also say, judging by his grip that it's a bit beefy there which suggests it is the double-stack P226. I don't believe the older (9mm) P220s haven't been around much in recent years. The first pic I'm not so sure about but I have to say it isn't the P225 - the trigger guard doesn't look like it matches up the same.. StanTheMan (talk) 00:20, 6 April 2013 (EDT)
M1911A1
In this picture it looks like the gun is either an M1911 or a Colt MK IV Series 80 as it lacks the curved mainspring housing of the M1911A1 and Colt MK IV Series 70 pistols. --Thejoker (talk) 20:22, 30 March 2013 (EDT)
