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In other words, I think we should ditch the M16A3 category completely. It makes no sense to distinguish between A2s and A3s when basically all of the "Hollywood" A2s and A3s are the same type of gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:39, 3 January 2009 (UTC) | In other words, I think we should ditch the M16A3 category completely. It makes no sense to distinguish between A2s and A3s when basically all of the "Hollywood" A2s and A3s are the same type of gun. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 20:39, 3 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
== The caption to the M16A1 w/ M16A2 handguards... == | |||
I was in the National Guard in the early '90's and that's exactly what we had. I was also issued an M16A1 with A2 handguards in basic training. | |||
It turns out that it's simpler and--from what I heard--cheaper to replace the 'A1 guards with 'A2 guards because the 'A2's are less complex and you only need to stock one type instead of 'lefts' and 'rights'. Also, the 'A1'a in the national guard were freshly rebuilt, tested, and had the serial numbers laser etched into the bolt carriers. They were issued with all 'A2 furniture. | |||
Revision as of 21:35, 9 January 2009
Is it really necessary...
...to have an entry dedicated to the M16 and M203, when we already have an M203 page at M203 grenade launcher? Looking over the history of both pages, it looks to me as though the M203 page was added a while after the M16 page entry on the M16/M203 was in place, since the M16 page is one of the oldest on the site.
I propose that we merge the entry under the M16 page with the entry on the M203 page.
Interesting
...I seriously doubt anyone will ever see an underslung version of the M203 used in a film, all by itself, ...
but there have been stand alone M203 launchers (modified with a pistol grip and stock like the M79LF 37mm launchers) as well as the M203 being attached to guns other than the M16 (take Rambo III for example where they attached it to an AK). Having a section on the M16 w M203 on the M16 page makes sense since that is where people will look if they're curious about that particular combo appearing in a movie. But I like having a separate page for the M203 to address more detailed history of the launcher plus any applications where the launcher is used with other weapons. Just a thought...
- We do need a page where M203s are used as stand alone launchers, rare, but it has happened. But we should shift all M203s underslung to M16s to the M16 Page and have a note directing users to that page when looking for that combination on the M203 page. Just IMHO.... MoviePropMaster2008 01:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
The M16A4 pictures
They don´t look like M16A4s to me.
Sick-vice 20:43, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- They are. They are M16s with removable carry handles, meaning they are A4s. -GM
- I will be posting some A4 pics soon ;) MoviePropMaster2008 01:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
M4A1
I re-uploaded the M4A1 with the LE stock and carry handle because the LE stock makes it different from the other picture, so it can be used. -GM
- Well, the new one has the LE stock, too, but I guess having a "plain" M4 with that stock is nice. I forget...did MPM take this pic himself, or is it from somewhere else? He mentioned that some of the pics he uploaded are placeholders until he could get better ones.
- That one that GM reloaded is not mine (though I originally put it up as a placeholder) ... (hopefully people can tell the quality difference). I fully intend to do a large high resolution version of all the configurations (like the others). As people can tell, I've been re-uploading some of my older (shot on film and scanned) pics with HIGH res digital pics. So, it's okay to have it as long as I can replace it with a new pic of the exact same configuration. MoviePropMaster2008 01:27, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Do well really need to have an "A2" and "A3" category?
MoviePropMaster2008 has already explained that just about all of the "M16A2s" used in movies are actually A2 uppers on A1 lowers, often with A1 flash hiders. By this definition, none of them are true "M16A2s", and might actually be considered M16A3s roughly. But since they're usually seen impersonating M16A2s, I say designate by receiver style only (both the A2 and A3 have what is usually called the "A2 receiver").
In other words, I think we should ditch the M16A3 category completely. It makes no sense to distinguish between A2s and A3s when basically all of the "Hollywood" A2s and A3s are the same type of gun. -MT2008 20:39, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
The caption to the M16A1 w/ M16A2 handguards...
I was in the National Guard in the early '90's and that's exactly what we had. I was also issued an M16A1 with A2 handguards in basic training.
It turns out that it's simpler and--from what I heard--cheaper to replace the 'A1 guards with 'A2 guards because the 'A2's are less complex and you only need to stock one type instead of 'lefts' and 'rights'. Also, the 'A1'a in the national guard were freshly rebuilt, tested, and had the serial numbers laser etched into the bolt carriers. They were issued with all 'A2 furniture.