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==Aditional Variants== | ==Aditional Variants== | ||
[[Image:SA vz. 58 Tactical.jpg|thumb|none|500px|CSA SA vz. 58 Tactical - 7.62x39mm]] | |||
[[File:Savz58 tactical.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SA Vz. 58 Tactical with railed handguards and a M4-style buttstock - 7.62x39mm ]] | [[File:Savz58 tactical.jpg|thumb|none|500px|SA Vz. 58 Tactical with railed handguards and a M4-style buttstock - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:Normal sa58 003.JPG|thumb|none|500px|'''Sa. Vz. 58 Defender''' - Shorter barrel, few little differences]] | [[Image:Normal sa58 003.JPG|thumb|none|500px|'''Sa. Vz. 58 Defender''' - Shorter barrel, few little differences]] | ||
[[Image:Vz58PI.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Sa. Vz. 58 Pi''' - Flash hider, bipod and Nightvision]] | [[Image:Vz58PI.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Sa. Vz. 58 Pi''' - Flash hider, bipod and Nightvision]] | ||
[[Image:CZ858access.gif|thumb|none|500px|'''Cz-858''' or '''Cz-858 Tactical''' - Civilian sporting version, mainly for export into US]] | [[Image:CZ858access.gif|thumb|none|500px|'''Cz-858''' or '''Cz-858 Tactical''' - Civilian sporting version, mainly for export into US]] | ||
[[Image:Sa58refl.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Sa. Vz. 58 in 601SKSS modification''' - Sa. Vz. 58V in Czech special forces modification]] | [[Image:Sa58refl.jpg|thumb|none|500px|'''Sa. Vz. 58 in 601SKSS modification''' - Sa. Vz. 58V in Czech special forces modification]] | ||
==Not like the StG. 44== | ==Not like the StG. 44== | ||
Revision as of 06:49, 29 September 2013
Aditional Variants
Not like the StG. 44
The article claims that the Vz's internals are close to the StG. 44, but there are significant differences:
StG - Long-stroke gas piston
Vz - Short-stroke gas piston
StG - Hammer fired
Vz - Striker fired
StG - Non-reciprocating charging handle
Vz - Reciprocating charging handle
StG - Tilting bolt (the entire bolt assembly)
Vz - Linearly-moving bolt with separate tilting breechblock
71.193.180.188 04:03, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Name of this gun?
What is the proper name for this gun? Wikipedia calls it the "SA vz. 58", the manufacturer "SA vz.58" the page name is "SA Vz.58" and the sections are "Sa. Vz. 58V". Which one is correct? --commando552 (talk) 05:17, 9 November 2012 (EST)I am from the Czech Republic and so you can explain it: There are 2 variants of SA Vz. 58. The designation "V" means paratrooper (czech: "výsadkár") , the designation P denotes infantry (czech: "pechota").--Pandolfini (talk) 07:56, 10 November 2012 (EST)
Compact variant looks rather cartoonish
Does the compact version of this gun look cartoonish to anyone else? I mean, I know it's just because it's extremely compact, but to me, it just looks like a cartoonishly-proportioned rifle, like it's supposed to be full-sized, but the magazine is disproportionately large. Jeddostotle7 (talk) 22:20, 14 November 2012 (EST)
Page Name?
Shouldn't the proper name of this page be Sa vz. 58 and not SA Vz. 58 as it's suppose to be short for Samopal vzor 1958? Isn't it only when an abbreviation is made up of two individual words (Avtomat Kalashnikova) that both letters are capitalized in an acronym (AK)? --Thejoker (talk) 18:38, 19 March 2013 (EDT)
- I would agree that "SA" is wrong as it is from one word, however it confuses me why there would be a period after the first abbreviated word but not the second. However I think we should go with Sa vz. 58 as that is what the current manufacturer CSA (Czech Small Arms) who makes the modern variants like the Carbine and the Compact call it on their site. CZ USA also refer to it as the Sa vz. 58 on their site, although not consistently. Either way it needs to be standardised as something as there are three different ways of writing it on this page alone. Anyone think Sa vz. 58 is wrong? --commando552 (talk) 19:29, 19 March 2013 (EDT)