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:That's odd...what was LMO selling about 5 years ago, then? They said it was the gun from this movie; had it been re-converted and they sold it? Also, who were the armorers on this movie? | :That's odd...what was LMO selling about 5 years ago, then? They said it was the gun from this movie; had it been re-converted and they sold it? Also, who were the armorers on this movie? | ||
[[Image:H&K-MP5KEarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch SP89 converted to full auto fire and made to look like an MP5K. Note lack of paddle magazine release and push-pin lower | ::Yeah, notice that the armorers aren't even listed? We don't get no respect. The Craft services girl gets a credit and we don't. I will check with Syd when I get a chance. During the filming of this movie I saw the Nickel plated SP89 (mocked up to be an MP5K, primarily because they didn't want to screw up a REAL MP5K and also the SP89 has a full metal lower receiver and since you can't nickel plate the plastic lower trigger assembly of the real MP5K, the SP89 was the gun to be 'customized'). I asked Syd directly what this nickel plated "fake MP5K" was all about and he said that Jan De Bont really wanted the gun to be nickel plated and that 20th Century fox was willing to '''pay''' for the cost of nickel plating the guns and then the full cost of reconverting them back to original condition as well as a 'special handling fee' and the standard armorer and weapons rentals fees. I didn't see the gun after that, so it was assumed that the gun was converted back being that FOX paid for it. If Stembridge didn't reconvert it, then they still had the right to charge 20th Century Fox for the cost, since they would have it financially covered if they had to, in the future. [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 23:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
[[Image:H&K-MP5KEarlyModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch SP89 converted to full auto fire and made to look like an MP5K. Note lack of paddle magazine release and push-pin lower receiver.]] | |||
[[Image:SpeedSP89-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Payne takes Annie to the train armed with his converted Heckler & Koch SP89. Note lack of a paddle magazine release.]] | [[Image:SpeedSP89-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Payne takes Annie to the train armed with his converted Heckler & Koch SP89. Note lack of a paddle magazine release.]] | ||
[[Image:SpeedSP89-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Payne with the SP89. Note lack of a push-pin lower | [[Image:SpeedSP89-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Payne with the SP89. Note lack of a push-pin lower receiver.]] | ||
[[Image:SpeedSP89-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Payne fires his SP89 into the air to scare away bystanders.]] | [[Image:SpeedSP89-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Payne fires his SP89 into the air to scare away bystanders.]] | ||
[[Image:SpeedSP89-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Payne forces the passengers off the train.]] | [[Image:SpeedSP89-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Payne forces the passengers off the train.]] | ||
Revision as of 23:42, 20 January 2009
The following guns were used in the film Speed:
M1911A1
LAPD SWAT members including Jack Traven (Keanu Reeves) and Harry Temple (Jeff Daniels) keep M1911A1 pistols as their sidearms in the film. Even though the LAPD standard issue sidearm for patrol officers were in 9mm caliber, LAPD SWAT had always used .45 M1911 models as their sidearm. These 1911 models varied differently for each user, many of which where handguns originally confiscated from criminals and tricked out by the department "gun cage jockey" who would turn the guns into tactical weapons. These were also the first guns to be fitted with frame mounted flashlights. After deciding to have the department issue these guns so the officers wouldn't have to buy them, they tested several models until they decided upon the Kimber Custom TLE II as their sidearms. Since this film is before the issue of these guns, the 1911s can be any type of model.
Heckler & Koch HK94A3 (chopped and converted)
Jack and Harry are seen using Heckler & Koch HK94A3 collapsing stock civilian guns with 16" barrels chopped and converted to resemble MP5A3s with Surefire light dedicated forends. They can be noted as HK94s instead of MP5A3s because of the lack of barrel lugs, a push-pin set and a paddle magazine release behind the magazine.
Heckler & Koch HK94A2 (chopped and converted)
A SWAT member following Harry into Payne's house is seen using a full-stock Heckler & Koch HK94A2 16" barrel civilian gun chopped and converted to resemble an MP5A2 with a Surefire light dedicated forend.
- Just so you know, you cut down the barrel a little TOO much on this picture.
- Yeah I know (had to do it in a hurry). But these "chopped" pics are just stand ins until MPM finds these chopped guns (that is, if he can) - Gunmaster45
Smith & Wesson 6904
Jack Traven (Keanu Reeves) keeps the older model Smith & Wesson 6904 chambered in 9mm as his off-duty sidearm in the film. This gun was built as a concealable 12 shot version of the 5904 model, with a 3.5" barrel and a bobbed hammer.
Mossberg 500 Mariner
Howard Payne (Dennis Hopper) uses a Mossberg 500 Mariner fitted with a pistol grip with the barrel sawed down to 16" to shoot at Jack and Harry through the roof of the elavator (which firing a shotgun in an elavator would result in permanant hearing damage almost instantly). When Harry falls through, he continues to fire a Jack, taking the elavator to the top floor to force Jack to jump in. When he does, he sticks the shotgun in his face and pulls the trigger, only to find the gun is empty. In reality, his Mossberg is a six shot (including one in the chamber), not eight like it is portrayed in the film.
Smith & Wesson Model 60
A passenger on the bus draws a Smith & Wesson Model 60 on Jack when he first gets on until Ortiz (Carlos Carrasco) tackles the gunman, resulting in a stray shot which hits Sam (Hawthorne James), the bus driver.
Unknown Sniper Rifles
The LAPD SWAT snipers waiting for Payne to take his money watch the exchange site with sniper rifles, all too far away for clear identification. The one closest seen appears to be a Remington 700PSS.
Heckler & Koch SP89 (mocked up as MP5K)
Howard Payne (Dennis Hopper) uses a nickel plated Heckler & Koch SP89 made to look like an MP5K by adding the MP5K foregrip and converting it to full-auto. It can be noted as an SP89 instead of an MP5K due to the lack of a paddle magazine release behind the magazine and lack of a push-pin lower receiver. According to the movie armorers, the filmmakers paid in advance for the armorers to send out the gun to be nickel plated and they also paid the full cost for the gun to be converted BACK to original configuration. So the specific weapon used in the movie, no longer looks like this.
- That's odd...what was LMO selling about 5 years ago, then? They said it was the gun from this movie; had it been re-converted and they sold it? Also, who were the armorers on this movie?
- Yeah, notice that the armorers aren't even listed? We don't get no respect. The Craft services girl gets a credit and we don't. I will check with Syd when I get a chance. During the filming of this movie I saw the Nickel plated SP89 (mocked up to be an MP5K, primarily because they didn't want to screw up a REAL MP5K and also the SP89 has a full metal lower receiver and since you can't nickel plate the plastic lower trigger assembly of the real MP5K, the SP89 was the gun to be 'customized'). I asked Syd directly what this nickel plated "fake MP5K" was all about and he said that Jan De Bont really wanted the gun to be nickel plated and that 20th Century fox was willing to pay for the cost of nickel plating the guns and then the full cost of reconverting them back to original condition as well as a 'special handling fee' and the standard armorer and weapons rentals fees. I didn't see the gun after that, so it was assumed that the gun was converted back being that FOX paid for it. If Stembridge didn't reconvert it, then they still had the right to charge 20th Century Fox for the cost, since they would have it financially covered if they had to, in the future. MoviePropMaster2008 23:42, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
