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There are a number of armoured vehicles on the bridge when the army blockades it, and a couple look like self-propelled guns rather than any sort of appropriate vehicle. Can anyone identify them?--[[User:Awmperry|Awmperry]] ([[User talk:Awmperry|talk]]) 06:21, 31 December 2012 (EST) | There are a number of armoured vehicles on the bridge when the army blockades it, and a couple look like self-propelled guns rather than any sort of appropriate vehicle. Can anyone identify them?--[[User:Awmperry|Awmperry]] ([[User talk:Awmperry|talk]]) 06:21, 31 December 2012 (EST) | ||
:Not seen it in a little while so way be wrong, but seem to remember they were actually old British FV433 Abbot SPGs (L13A1 105mm gun), so they are inappropriate both in terms of role and origin. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:27, 31 December 2012 (EST) | :Not seen it in a little while so way be wrong, but seem to remember they were actually old British FV433 Abbot SPGs (L13A1 105mm gun), so they are inappropriate both in terms of role and origin. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] ([[User talk:Commando552|talk]]) 06:27, 31 December 2012 (EST) | ||
::The FV433 is a common movie stand-in for the M109 Paladin. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 07:03, 3 January 2013 (EST) | |||
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Images from the film's prologue...
Are they legal or from an officially released source relating to the movie or to the studios? Cause if they aren't (they look like they were captured from a camera inside a movie theater), then they should be taken down right away. The last thing we need is the studio lawyers coming after us for illegal, bootlegged images from an unreleased movie. --ThatoneguyJosh 20:41, 31 January 2012 (CST)
How is it that this page may have Potential Spoilers? Has any real info even been released on the script?--Spades of Columbia 11:18, 2 February 2012 (CST)
- Because whoever put up those bootlegged images were potentially giving away a major plot spoiler as to what's going to happen in the beginning of the movie. Not to mention putting us at risk from getting negative attention from the studio lawyers. --ThatoneguyJosh 13:02, 2 February 2012 (CST)
Catwoman's pistol
In a TotalFilm article Catwoman (Anne Hathaway) can be seen with a CZ 75 "Pre B". --commando552 11:53, 11 May 2012 (CDT)
New TV spot
In the new TV spot titled "Ouch"...if you look carefully and pause at 0:19 as Catwoman fights a bad guy, she disarms him of a suppressed pistol.
It looks like she disarms him of a suppressed Glock 17 while holding a CZ 75 "Pre B" herself. --Thejoker I think the Glock looks more like a compact 19 than the full size 17. --Mormonpowerranger521
Selina Kyle and the SIG-Sauer P226
I dont recall seeing Selina handling a SIG-P226 during the movie, even though there is a publicity still of her doing so. Though as I've only seen it once yet I cant be sure. --Thejoker.
I just saw it again last night and it's possible it might have been in the bar scene, but I honestly can't say for sure. The action moves pretty fast to catch all the guns without being able to pause. Could have sworn I saw a guy with a Beretta PX4 Storm in the bar scene though.EDIT: Never mind, it was the Cougar actually. Someone else had caught it as well Bristow8411 14:55, 29 July 2012 (CDT)
Downgrade in SWAT weaponry
I just feel a little disappointed for the downgrade of Gotham City's SWAT weaponry, going from G36s and UMPs (Begins) to M16s, M4s and MP5s (Dark Knight) to all MP5s (Rises).
Isn’t MP5s a little obsolete, especially when real life SWAT teams faded it out for the more powerful M4s, even when encountering heavily armed adversaries? Dangerman1973 17:41, 4 August 2012 (CDT)
It's seen a lot in movies and even today, a lot of police department still use the MP5. The AR platform has really come to its own in the passed years. If you pay attention in the movie, there were quite a few G36Cs, used by both the mercs and the SWAT teams. That one guy picked on up at the end and fired it semi instead of full, which is rare Excalibur01 23:38, 4 August 2012 (CDT)
I just found the charging at the end of the movie to be a bit weird. At first, from the trailers, I thought everyone just ran out of ammo or had no guns and decided to go at it, but everyone had a gun and they just charged at each other like that? That is against all forms of modern tactics. Now it's really cool and you get into it, but during the initial charge, a lot of the guys in front were getting mowed down by one guy with a rifle before getting overrun and then it just broke down to hand to hand combat Excalibur01 23:41, 4 August 2012 (CDT)
- Actually a lot of officers were only holding their batons during the final assault, only some uniform officers in the front row had their sidearms while some SWAT officers had their primary weapons. During the charge, the officers with weapons were charging while firing their weapons, unfortunately we didn't see any mercenaries/thugs getting taken out on screen (though in my mind I would like to believe so...). In any case, it's nice to see that GCPD had evolved from a totally corrupt force to stepping up and defending Gotham.--Wildcards 03:00, 6 August 2012 (CDT)
- That does bring up the question of WHY the officers were only holding their batons though. I mean, I assume they all went into the sewers with at LEAST a sidearm and a couple of magazines, did they just pass the time down there plinking at garbage and run out of ammo or what? DKS01 07:20, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- Maybe Bane's men demanded that they hand over their weapons in exchange for the food and water? So they were only able to keep a few for themselves.--Wildcards 12:39, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- Unless I missed something, Bane's men weren't feeding them, food was being smuggled to them. DKS01 18:12, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- Bane's men were feeding the cops, it was just messages that were being smuggled in. --cool-breeze 09:50, 8 August 2012 (CDT)
- Unless I missed something, Bane's men weren't feeding them, food was being smuggled to them. DKS01 18:12, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- Maybe Bane's men demanded that they hand over their weapons in exchange for the food and water? So they were only able to keep a few for themselves.--Wildcards 12:39, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
- That does bring up the question of WHY the officers were only holding their batons though. I mean, I assume they all went into the sewers with at LEAST a sidearm and a couple of magazines, did they just pass the time down there plinking at garbage and run out of ammo or what? DKS01 07:20, 7 August 2012 (CDT)
Going back to this, there is still no logic behind the cop's massive charge against a bunch of heavily armed men. Let's say all the cops had whatever they brought with them down the sewers when they got trapped, average cop has handgun and 2 mags and maybe a backup. SWAT would be all decked out and let's say for the sake of it, they each brought enough ammo for war. Did suddenly all the cops forgot about taking cover? Excalibur01 (talk) 00:51, 4 December 2012 (EST)
Screencapping
So which of us is planning on doing the screen captures? I'd like to do it, but I know Ben41 is also planning on doing so. Anyone other users interested? --Markit (talk) 23:09, 3 December 2012 (EST)
I'll watch the movie again, but I don't have blu ray, which is what this page deserves. Excalibur01 (talk) 00:51, 4 December 2012 (EST)
Aspect ratio
I noticed that there are two different aspect ratios for the screenshots, is it the case that it switches from 2.39:1 to 16:9 for the scenes that were shot in IMAX? If so, does anyone know if it did this for the non IMAX theatrical release? --commando552 (talk) 08:35, 5 December 2012 (EST)
- No it didn't. I saw it at a non-IMAX cinema and it had a constant aspect ratio throughout the film. --cool-breeze (talk) 08:39, 5 December 2012 (EST)
- That's how I remembered it, but wasn't sure. If not, that means they were cropping out a hell of a lot of the image for the IMAX scenes. --commando552 (talk) 11:38, 5 December 2012 (EST)
- I would leave them as is to be honest because it won't be as simple as taking the top and bottom off to fit the 2.35:1 ratio as I'm sure that they would have re-positioned the image in post for standard theatrical release. --cool-breeze (talk) 12:38, 5 December 2012 (EST)
- I wasn't suggesting we changed them, just wanted to verify that it was the case that the 16:9 parts were due to the IMAX scenes and not due to different sources. --commando552 (talk) 13:02, 5 December 2012 (EST)
- Ah right, I thought you were talking about cropping them to 2.35:1 when you mentioned the cropping out a hell of a lot for the images but I realise you were talking about the film makers. I don't get why they didn't just shoot the whole film is 1.85:1 to be honest if they are going to keep the full IMAX ratio for the IMAX camera shot scenes. It would make a lot more sense to me. --cool-breeze (talk) 07:38, 6 December 2012 (EST)
- I wasn't suggesting we changed them, just wanted to verify that it was the case that the 16:9 parts were due to the IMAX scenes and not due to different sources. --commando552 (talk) 13:02, 5 December 2012 (EST)
- I would leave them as is to be honest because it won't be as simple as taking the top and bottom off to fit the 2.35:1 ratio as I'm sure that they would have re-positioned the image in post for standard theatrical release. --cool-breeze (talk) 12:38, 5 December 2012 (EST)
- That's how I remembered it, but wasn't sure. If not, that means they were cropping out a hell of a lot of the image for the IMAX scenes. --commando552 (talk) 11:38, 5 December 2012 (EST)
Well, the DVD releases and the digital copy releases were all in a constant 2:35:1 aspect ratio. The only exceptions are the Blu Ray copies, which retained the 16:9 aspect ratio of the IMAX scenes. - Kenny99 (talk) 21:28, 5 December 2012 (EST)
Suggested image additions
Some images that should be added:
- Bane disarming one of the lobby security guards at the Stock Exchange as the guard tries to draw a Glock pistol.
- Blake's killing of the two construction workers with his sidearm.
- Maybe a couple additional images of the different guns used in the bar and alleyway shootout
Just suggestions. DReifGalaxyM32 (talk) 17:36, 8 December 2012 (EST)
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Armoured vehicles on the bridge?
There are a number of armoured vehicles on the bridge when the army blockades it, and a couple look like self-propelled guns rather than any sort of appropriate vehicle. Can anyone identify them?--Awmperry (talk) 06:21, 31 December 2012 (EST)
- Not seen it in a little while so way be wrong, but seem to remember they were actually old British FV433 Abbot SPGs (L13A1 105mm gun), so they are inappropriate both in terms of role and origin. --commando552 (talk) 06:27, 31 December 2012 (EST)
- The FV433 is a common movie stand-in for the M109 Paladin. Spartan198 (talk) 07:03, 3 January 2013 (EST)