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:If those aren't "official" behind the scenes images I don't think they are allowed to be posted here, you will have to check with a mod. However, while searching to find out where they came from, I found the following [http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.265642526828218.63020.115601671832305&type=1 facebook gallery] that has all of those images and more where I saw something insetting. In two of the pictures ([http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/546414_333627663363037_115601671832305_912554_356253241_n.jpg] and [http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/485714_333628380029632_115601671832305_912579_1021573352_n.jpg]) you can see that a few background people are using the AKs mocked up as M16s that were first used in ''[[Universal Soldier: Regeneration]]'' (that page IDs them as Arsenal rifle, but just realised whilst checking for this that they are actually Valmets). I find it hard to believe that they were able to get ACRs, SCARs, G36s, SG552s but couldn't get their hands on a genuine M16A2 but am fairly sure that is what they are (it is shot in Bulgaria as well). It could be the case that the "main" enemy weapons like the sniperised ACRs are shipped in, wheras the "background" enemy weapons like these fake M16s and the AKs (probably Arsenal ARs) are locally sourced. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:18, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:If those aren't "official" behind the scenes images I don't think they are allowed to be posted here, you will have to check with a mod. However, while searching to find out where they came from, I found the following [http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.265642526828218.63020.115601671832305&type=1 facebook gallery] that has all of those images and more where I saw something insetting. In two of the pictures ([http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/546414_333627663363037_115601671832305_912554_356253241_n.jpg] and [http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/485714_333628380029632_115601671832305_912579_1021573352_n.jpg]) you can see that a few background people are using the AKs mocked up as M16s that were first used in ''[[Universal Soldier: Regeneration]]'' (that page IDs them as Arsenal rifle, but just realised whilst checking for this that they are actually Valmets). I find it hard to believe that they were able to get ACRs, SCARs, G36s, SG552s but couldn't get their hands on a genuine M16A2 but am fairly sure that is what they are (it is shot in Bulgaria as well). It could be the case that the "main" enemy weapons like the sniperised ACRs are shipped in, wheras the "background" enemy weapons like these fake M16s and the AKs (probably Arsenal ARs) are locally sourced. --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:18, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
THIS FILM WAS DESTINED TO HAVE A BARRETT!!!!! i think the images should be added, they are gonna be in the film why waste time noone will get arrested for adding photographs lol
--[[User:Quaney Owns U|Quaney Owns U]] 07:21, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:Like I said, I would check with a mod first before adding any more of these behind the scenes images. When exactly the same situation occurred with the latest Transformers movie the images were removed so I wouldn't bank on it being different in this case.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:37, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:Like I said, I would check with a mod first before adding any more of these behind the scenes images. When exactly the same situation occurred with the latest Transformers movie the images were removed so I wouldn't bank on it being different in this case.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 07:37, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
::It looks like some guy posted some personal photos. The facebook page is just a fan site as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 08:33, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
::It looks like some guy posted some personal photos. The facebook page is just a fan site as well. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] 08:33, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
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:::::You're not allowed to use amateur shots unless it is ''absolutely'' clear that they have been released with the permission of the studio. I'm not sure what you mean about video games, we ''don't'' allow things like the MW3 leak on pages. And the problem isn't guns outside of movies, it's when the only picture of a gun on the page is it sitting on the floor of a warehouse, with no proof it's ever going to make it into any cut of the movie that a cinema-goer actually sees or for that matter is even in the movie. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:19, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:::::You're not allowed to use amateur shots unless it is ''absolutely'' clear that they have been released with the permission of the studio. I'm not sure what you mean about video games, we ''don't'' allow things like the MW3 leak on pages. And the problem isn't guns outside of movies, it's when the only picture of a gun on the page is it sitting on the floor of a warehouse, with no proof it's ever going to make it into any cut of the movie that a cinema-goer actually sees or for that matter is even in the movie. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:19, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
::::::There isn't really that much point moving to the discussion as right now apart from the disallowed photos all the sections contain is "X is seen in a BTS photo", which won't be in the entry when the page is made properly, so why preserve it? With other pages that include ''official'' behind the scenes images and caps, they are useful to show details of the gun and to help ID it. The links to the galleries are in this discussion page if anyone wants to look at the photos to help ID stuff when the movie comes out, so for now lets just wait and see what actually turns up in the movie.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:27, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
::::::There isn't really that much point moving to the discussion as right now apart from the disallowed photos all the sections contain is "X is seen in a BTS photo", which won't be in the entry when the page is made properly, so why preserve it? With other pages that include ''official'' behind the scenes images and caps, they are useful to show details of the gun and to help ID it. The links to the galleries are in this discussion page if anyone wants to look at the photos to help ID stuff when the movie comes out, so for now lets just wait and see what actually turns up in the movie.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 10:27, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
The only reason the photos aren't allowed is because the moderators think they are "illegal" and as soon as the upload button is pressed Arnold swarchenegger's gonna kick they're and shout "WHO TOLD YOU YOU COULD USE '''MY''' PHOTOS???, PUT THE PHOTO DOWN '''NOOOW'''!!!"
--[[User:Quaney Owns U|Quaney Owns U]] 13:08, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:No, it's because the site owner could get sued for hosting leaked images, actually. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:15, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
and who would care eneough top do that ive never heard any studio going as far as to SUE a website because of a few images they found on the internet. at the most they would request a safe removal, not a whole law suit thats just overdramatic and fantastical.
--[[User:Quaney Owns U|Quaney Owns U]] 13:25, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:It's happened. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 13:34, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
Besides, it's better to not put them up than to be asked to take them down, there is no need to pointlessly get a bad reputation.  --[[User:Commando552|commando552]] 14:06, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
And we're not an obscured website here. We're well known [[User:Excalibur01|Excalibur01]] 14:56, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
Ish. when? why? and what page??? if IMDB sued the site i'm certainly not suprised the name is one word/letter away. --[[User:Quaney Owns U|Quaney Owns U]] 15:39, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
:This rule isn't up for discussion. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 18:04, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
Quaney Owns U, you must be new here, and since you haven't taken the time to read the lines on the [[Rules, Standards and Principles]] page, I'll take the time to fill you in with the cliffnotes; the rules clearly state this; DO NOT UPLOAD ANY IMAGES (OF ANY KIND) OF ANY UPCOMING FILM UNTIL THE FILM HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY RELEASED ON DVD/BLU-RAY. And another thing, IMFDB is NOT an obscure website. IMFDB had become the buzz and talk of the entertainment industry in the last few years now, and if we are seen as a website that hosts unauthorized photos of films not released yet, then it's guaranteed for sure that the studio lawyers will throw the book at us, and that will sound the death knell of IMFDB. We strive to avoid this at all costs. And you trying to push for those photos to be hosted on here is only going to be met with denial, and in all probability, your inevitable ban from this site. --[[User:ThatoneguyJosh|ThatoneguyJosh]] 02:20, 17 April 2012 (CDT)

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Hemsworth's piece

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Lima Hemsworth also has an AR-15 type rifle in the teaser, but only the combat scope on the waepon is seen clearly. --Warejaws 07:12, 15 December 2011 (CST)

Poster

As good as the poster looks, is actually the real one? I seem to remember it coming out a few weeks ago but was dismissed as an incredibly well made fake, as the text at the bottom is gibberish. Having said that, the weapons (for the most part, G36K rather than G36C) and costumes seem to match, so perhaps it is an early mockup with gibberish text as a place holder, but either way I believe Millennium Films requested that it be taken down from various websites. I believe the poster below, boring as it may be, is the official one that was released with the trailer.--commando552 09:22, 15 December 2011 (CST)

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The Expendables 2 (2012)

Arnold and AA-12

It does remind me of Commando. --Eisiishai 03:30, 17 December 2011 (CST)

Behind the scenes

Bunch of BTS weapon pics http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=36991167#post36991167

If those aren't "official" behind the scenes images I don't think they are allowed to be posted here, you will have to check with a mod. However, while searching to find out where they came from, I found the following facebook gallery that has all of those images and more where I saw something insetting. In two of the pictures ([1] and [2]) you can see that a few background people are using the AKs mocked up as M16s that were first used in Universal Soldier: Regeneration (that page IDs them as Arsenal rifle, but just realised whilst checking for this that they are actually Valmets). I find it hard to believe that they were able to get ACRs, SCARs, G36s, SG552s but couldn't get their hands on a genuine M16A2 but am fairly sure that is what they are (it is shot in Bulgaria as well). It could be the case that the "main" enemy weapons like the sniperised ACRs are shipped in, wheras the "background" enemy weapons like these fake M16s and the AKs (probably Arsenal ARs) are locally sourced. --commando552 07:18, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
Like I said, I would check with a mod first before adding any more of these behind the scenes images. When exactly the same situation occurred with the latest Transformers movie the images were removed so I wouldn't bank on it being different in this case. --commando552 07:37, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
It looks like some guy posted some personal photos. The facebook page is just a fan site as well. --Funkychinaman 08:33, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
Unless these are official images they need to come down immediately; someone tell me if there's any sign of these being officially approved so I can tell if they need to be deleted completely or not. Also, the site's tagline is "guns in movies," not "guns on the floor of a warehouse." Evil Tim 08:35, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
We're not allowed to post amateur BTS shots of films? Video game pages do it all the time. The guy's clear to post them on his facebook, hence all the stars posing with him. Also probably better to move the images to Discussion rather than delete them completely so sections can be restored when the film comes out. As for "no guns outside of movie footage", you should check some of the site's pages. Many of them use shots like that as it's the only way to get a clean view of them.Temp89 09:01, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
You're not allowed to use amateur shots unless it is absolutely clear that they have been released with the permission of the studio. I'm not sure what you mean about video games, we don't allow things like the MW3 leak on pages. And the problem isn't guns outside of movies, it's when the only picture of a gun on the page is it sitting on the floor of a warehouse, with no proof it's ever going to make it into any cut of the movie that a cinema-goer actually sees or for that matter is even in the movie. Evil Tim 09:19, 16 April 2012 (CDT)
There isn't really that much point moving to the discussion as right now apart from the disallowed photos all the sections contain is "X is seen in a BTS photo", which won't be in the entry when the page is made properly, so why preserve it? With other pages that include official behind the scenes images and caps, they are useful to show details of the gun and to help ID it. The links to the galleries are in this discussion page if anyone wants to look at the photos to help ID stuff when the movie comes out, so for now lets just wait and see what actually turns up in the movie. --commando552 10:27, 16 April 2012 (CDT)