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Well for all the hype has it ever been Independantly tested or is it like "Blended Metal" bullets? Even if it can penatrate like it claims it means that the round is a one trick pony. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:44, 29 March 2012 (CDT) | Well for all the hype has it ever been Independantly tested or is it like "Blended Metal" bullets? Even if it can penatrate like it claims it means that the round is a one trick pony. [[User:Rockwolf66|Rockwolf66]] 20:44, 29 March 2012 (CDT) | ||
:I do notice the APC they tested on was an obsolete MT-LB (a vehicle only designed for protection against small arms fire and shell splinters anyway, so they're evaluating against the latest in 1960s Soviet crew protection technology) they somehow imagined a vehicle driver was going to be within 100 metres of the rear of (since, you know, PDWs are usually marketed as crew weapons). Real-life battle scenario there, not. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:34, 30 March 2012 (CDT) | :I do notice the APC they tested on was an obsolete MT-LB (a vehicle only designed for protection against small arms fire and shell splinters anyway, so they're evaluating against the latest in 1960s Soviet crew protection technology) they somehow imagined a vehicle driver was going to be within 100 metres of the rear of (since, you know, PDWs are usually marketed as crew weapons). Real-life battle scenario there, not. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 02:34, 30 March 2012 (CDT) | ||
::Considering that on the website there's a picture of one of these with a bipod and 100-round snail drum mag, I doubt "real life battle scenarios" where in mind when they designed it. [[User:Krakydak|Krakydak]] 13:35, 30 March 2012 (CDT) | |||
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Information about this weapon's unique caliber
Anyone who's interested about this weapon's peculiar caliber can read about it on the weapon's official website here. The company claims that the standard ball loading (an APDS--armour-piercing, discarding sabot--round carrying a 4mm tungsten penetrator in a plastic sabot) is enough to penetrate the skin of helicopters and the weaker parts of APCs, as well as virtually any body armour type within 300 metres. Whether or not you believe the hype and the company's claims that this caliber is the perfect solution for CQB small arms such as pistols, SMGs/PDWs, and compact assault rifles, is up to you. --Mazryonh 19:02, 28 March 2012 (CDT)
- Right, because the first thing I think of when I see a Mini Uzi is "I wish I could shoot through a BMP with this." Does this thing's foregrip, like, slide forward or something? Or is it at least easily removed? Because in this configuration it looks incredibly uncomfortable. Krakydak 14:39, 29 March 2012 (CDT)
- I don't see penetrating the rear armour of Russian APCs as a great acomplishment, but that's if you have a rifle. An SMG, color me doubtfull--Mandolin 19:54, 29 March 2012 (CDT)
- It sounds like they let the designer's son describe it. It probably also has an extended clip attachment and optional quickdraw perk. Evil Tim 20:14, 29 March 2012 (CDT)
- I don't see penetrating the rear armour of Russian APCs as a great acomplishment, but that's if you have a rifle. An SMG, color me doubtfull--Mandolin 19:54, 29 March 2012 (CDT)
Well for all the hype has it ever been Independantly tested or is it like "Blended Metal" bullets? Even if it can penatrate like it claims it means that the round is a one trick pony. Rockwolf66 20:44, 29 March 2012 (CDT)
- I do notice the APC they tested on was an obsolete MT-LB (a vehicle only designed for protection against small arms fire and shell splinters anyway, so they're evaluating against the latest in 1960s Soviet crew protection technology) they somehow imagined a vehicle driver was going to be within 100 metres of the rear of (since, you know, PDWs are usually marketed as crew weapons). Real-life battle scenario there, not. Evil Tim 02:34, 30 March 2012 (CDT)
- Considering that on the website there's a picture of one of these with a bipod and 100-round snail drum mag, I doubt "real life battle scenarios" where in mind when they designed it. Krakydak 13:35, 30 March 2012 (CDT)