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''The Green Berets'' is the 1968 [[John Wayne]] war film that was one of the few movies made about the Vietnam War while the US was still involved in fighting it. | ''The Green Berets'' is the 1968 [[John Wayne]] war film that was one of the few movies made about the Vietnam War while the US was still involved in fighting it. Holding a somewhat dubious honor of being the only (somewhat) pro-Vietnam War movie of the era, Wayne's film received substantial support from the Department of Defense, who lent accurate equipment and weaponry for the production. | ||
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=== MAT-49 === | === MAT-49 === | ||
The [[MAT-49|MAT-49 sub machine gun]] was used widely throughout (then) French Indo-China with a great deal of them being left behind after the defeat at Dien Bien Phu. | The [[MAT-49|MAT-49 sub machine gun]] was used widely throughout (then) French Indo-China with a great deal of them being left behind after the defeat at Dien Bien Phu. The weapon displayed here could be a locally manufactured copy which chambered the 7.62mm Tokarev round. | ||
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|300px|none|thumb|French MAT-49 Sub Machine Gun - 9mm]] | [[Image:MAT-49.jpg|300px|none|thumb|French MAT-49 Sub Machine Gun - 9mm]] | ||
[[Image:Gb1.JPG|600px|none|thumb|[[MAT-49]] top dead center of Display]] | [[Image:Gb1.JPG|600px|none|thumb|[[MAT-49]] top dead center of Display]] | ||
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===Thompson=== | ===Thompson=== | ||
Also seen on the board is an [[M1928A1 Thompson]]. The M-1928 and A1 models could have their butt stock removed and were commonly seen with the Vietcong because of the First Indochina War, Chinese Civil War, and Korean War. | Also seen on the board is an [[M1928A1 Thompson]]. The M-1928 and A1 models could have their butt stock removed and were commonly seen with the Vietcong because of the First Indochina War, Chinese Civil War, and Korean War. | ||
[[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg |thumb|none|400px|M1928A1 Thompson with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP ]] | [[Image:M1928A1Drum.jpg |thumb|none|400px|M1928A1 Thompson with 50-round drum magazine - .45 ACP]] | ||
[[Image:Gb1.JPG|600px|none|thumb|Viet Cong copy of [[Thompson]] in center of Display]] | [[Image:Gb1.JPG|600px|none|thumb|Viet Cong copy of [[Thompson]] in center of Display]] | ||
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=== PPSh-41 Submachine Gun === | === PPSh-41 Submachine Gun === | ||
This ubiquitous Russian [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPSh-41 Sub Machine Gun]] is also seen on the captured weapons display but, like the SKS above it could very well be a Chinese clone. | This ubiquitous Russian [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPSh-41 Sub Machine Gun]] is also seen on the captured weapons display but, like the SKS above it could very well be a Chinese clone. Sgt. Muldoon ([[Aldo Ray]]) refers to the weapon as a "ChiCom K50 submachine gun". | ||
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]] | [[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|400px|PPSh-41 Submachine Gun - 7.62x25mm Tokarev]] | ||
[[Image:Gb1.JPG|600px|none|thumb|Chinese version of [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPSh-41 Sub Machine Gun]] at bottom of Display]] | [[Image:Gb1.JPG|600px|none|thumb|Chinese version of [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPSh-41 Sub Machine Gun]] at bottom of Display]] | ||
[[Image:TGB 211.jpg|600px|none|thumb|Sgt. Muldoon shows off the "ChiCom K50 submachine gun". ]] | [[Image:TGB 211.jpg|600px|none|thumb|Sgt. Muldoon shows off the "ChiCom K50 submachine gun".]] | ||
=== Mle 1892 Revolver === | === Mle 1892 Revolver === | ||
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=== Unknown Pistol === | === Unknown Pistol === | ||
Another weapon on the board is a semi-automatic pistol (probably SACM M1935A). | Another weapon on the board is a semi-automatic pistol (probably SACM M1935A). | ||
[[Image:TGB 2.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Unknown Pistol on board]] | [[Image:TGB 2.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Unknown Pistol on board]] | ||
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==XM16E1 Rifle== | ==XM16E1 Rifle== | ||
In actuality, the U.S. Army Special Forces were one of the first units to actively field the [[M16]] in combat. | In actuality, the U.S. Army Special Forces were one of the first units to actively field the [[M16]] in combat. In the movie, Kirby's men carry a [[XM16E1]] rifles noted by the presence of a forward bolt assist, partial magazine fence and early model three prong flash suppressor. | ||
[[Image:XM16E1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|XM16E1 Rifle - 5.56mm]] | [[Image:XM16E1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|XM16E1 Rifle - 5.56mm]] | ||
[[Image:Gb5.JPG|none|thumb|600px|Sgt. Parks ([[Rudy Robbins]]) holds the [[M16 rifle series|XM16E1 Rifle]].]] | [[Image:Gb5.JPG|none|thumb|600px|Sgt. Parks ([[Rudy Robbins]]) holds the [[M16 rifle series|XM16E1 Rifle]].]] | ||
[[Image:TGB 23.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Colonel Mike Kirby ([[John Wayne]]) with the Mike Force armed with [[M16 rifle series|XM16E1 Rifles]]]] | [[Image:TGB 23.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Colonel Mike Kirby ([[John Wayne]]) with the Mike Force armed with [[M16 rifle series|XM16E1 Rifles]]]] | ||
[[Image:TGB 31.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Colonel Mike Kirby ([[John Wayne]]) holding a [[M16 rifle series|XM16E1 Rifle]] while watching Skyhook. ]] | [[Image:TGB 31.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Colonel Mike Kirby ([[John Wayne]]) holding a [[M16 rifle series|XM16E1 Rifle]] while watching Skyhook.]] | ||
==Mattel M-16 Marauder Toy Gun== | ==Mattel M-16 Marauder Toy Gun== | ||
Later in the movie, Col. Kirby is seen dramatically smashing one of Kowalski's M-16 against a tree. | Later in the movie, Col. Kirby is seen dramatically smashing one of Kowalski's M-16 against a tree. If you look carefully, the "weapon" is actually a ''Mattel M-16 Marauder'', a plastic toy gun manufactured in the 1960's. Also, it would be near impossible for him to smash the aerospace-grade aluminum receivers by hand against a tree, which is what he would have done to really render the weapon unusable to the enemy. Like in most movies, this was done just to give viewers a 'macho' impression on the screen. The Marauder is also briefly seen in the hands of Kirby after the watchtower is brought down by enemy fire. | ||
[[Image:MattelMarauder1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mattel M-16 Marauder Toy Gun]] | [[Image:MattelMarauder1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mattel M-16 Marauder Toy Gun]] | ||
[[Image:Gb9.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Wayne smashing his fallen comrade's 'M16 rifle' making it useless to Vietcong's if they ever got a grip of it.]] | [[Image:Gb9.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Wayne smashing his fallen comrade's 'M16 rifle' making it useless to Vietcong's if they ever got a grip of it.]] | ||
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==M60C Machine Guns mounted in M-6E3 Weapons System == | ==M60C Machine Guns mounted in M-6E3 Weapons System == | ||
This system, consisting of two double sets of [[M60 machine gun|M60C machine guns]] mounted above 8 shot rocket pods is seen attached to a UH-1 "Huey" (probably a C or D model) gunship in the movie. | This system, consisting of two double sets of [[M60 machine gun|M60C machine guns]] mounted above 8 shot rocket pods is seen attached to a UH-1 "Huey" (probably a C or D model) gunship in the movie. | ||
[[Image:TGB 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crew doing final adjustments to the M-6E3 Weapons System with [[M60 machine gun|M60C machine guns]]]] | [[Image:TGB 10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Crew doing final adjustments to the M-6E3 Weapons System with [[M60 machine gun|M60C machine guns]]]] | ||
[[Image:Gb4.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Crew doing final adjustments to the M-6E3 Weapons System with [[M60 machine gun|M60C machine guns]]]] | [[Image:Gb4.JPG|thumb|none|600px|Crew doing final adjustments to the M-6E3 Weapons System with [[M60 machine gun|M60C machine guns]]]] | ||
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[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Late Model M1 Carbine - .30 Carbine]] | [[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Late Model M1 Carbine - .30 Carbine]] | ||
[[Image:Gb15.JPG|thumb|none|400px|]] | [[Image:Gb15.JPG|thumb|none|400px|]] | ||
[[Image:TGB 15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Viet Cong | [[Image:TGB 15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Viet Cong carrying [[M1 Carbine|M1 Carbines]]]] | ||
[[Image:TGB 22.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Mike Force soldier with [[M1 Carbine]] assisting the evacuation]] | [[Image:TGB 22.jpg|none|thumb|600px|Mike Force soldier with [[M1 Carbine]] assisting the evacuation]] | ||
[[Image:TGB 29.jpg|thumb|none|600px|George Beckworth ([[David Janssen]]) holding [[M1 Carbine]]]] | [[Image:TGB 29.jpg|thumb|none|600px|George Beckworth ([[David Janssen]]) holding [[M1 Carbine]]]] | ||
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==Mauser K98k Rifle== | ==Mauser K98k Rifle== | ||
NVA Regular soldiers are seen grabbing their [[Karabiner 98k|Mauser K98k Rifles]] during the extraction. | NVA Regular soldiers are seen grabbing their [[Karabiner 98k|Mauser K98k Rifles]] during the extraction. It should be noted that both the NVA and the Viet Cong used a considerable number of Mauser Kar98k rifles during the Vietnam War (many of which were provided by the Soviet Union) and the rifles (along with the Mosin-Nagant) were used alongside the more prevalent AK-47 rifle and SKS carbine. | ||
[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mauser K98k 98 Rifle - 7.92x57mm]] | [[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Mauser K98k 98 Rifle - 7.92x57mm]] | ||
[[Image:TGB 30.jpg|none|thumb|600px|NVA Regular soldiers are seen grabbing their [[Karabiner 98k|Mauser K98k Rifles]].]] | [[Image:TGB 30.jpg|none|thumb|600px|NVA Regular soldiers are seen grabbing their [[Karabiner 98k|Mauser K98k Rifles]].]] | ||
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The Green Berets is the 1968 John Wayne war film that was one of the few movies made about the Vietnam War while the US was still involved in fighting it. Holding a somewhat dubious honor of being the only (somewhat) pro-Vietnam War movie of the era, Wayne's film received substantial support from the Department of Defense, who lent accurate equipment and weaponry for the production.
- Actors: John Wayne, David Janssen, Jim Hutton, Aldo Ray, Raymond St. Jacques, Jack Soo, George Takei, Patrick Wayne, Luke Askew, Edward Faulkner, Jason Evers, Bruce Cabot, Mike Henry, Rudy Robbins,
- Directors: Ray Kellogg, John Wayne, Mervyn LeRoy
The following weapons were used in the movie The Green Berets:
Captured Weapons Display
At the beginning of the film, when a group of civilians and reporters are being briefed about the capabilities of the U.S. Army Special Forces a number of captured weapons are seen on a display board behind the two U.S. Army sergeants, they include:
MAT-49
The MAT-49 sub machine gun was used widely throughout (then) French Indo-China with a great deal of them being left behind after the defeat at Dien Bien Phu. The weapon displayed here could be a locally manufactured copy which chambered the 7.62mm Tokarev round.
Thompson
Also seen on the board is an M1928A1 Thompson. The M-1928 and A1 models could have their butt stock removed and were commonly seen with the Vietcong because of the First Indochina War, Chinese Civil War, and Korean War.
SKS Carbine
The Russian SKS Carbine is also on display.
PPSh-41 Submachine Gun
This ubiquitous Russian PPSh-41 Sub Machine Gun is also seen on the captured weapons display but, like the SKS above it could very well be a Chinese clone. Sgt. Muldoon (Aldo Ray) refers to the weapon as a "ChiCom K50 submachine gun".
Mle 1892 Revolver
Unknown Pistol
Another weapon on the board is a semi-automatic pistol (probably SACM M1935A).
Browning Over & Under Shotgun
The Airborne Colonel who shoots skeet with Col. Kirby (John Wayne) (and who was the real commander of the Airborne School at Fort Benning, Georgia where the film was shot) uses a Browning over-under shotgun.
Remington Model 1100
Col. Kirby uses a Remington Model 1100 semi-auto shotgun while shooting skeet.
XM16E1 Rifle
In actuality, the U.S. Army Special Forces were one of the first units to actively field the M16 in combat. In the movie, Kirby's men carry a XM16E1 rifles noted by the presence of a forward bolt assist, partial magazine fence and early model three prong flash suppressor.
Mattel M-16 Marauder Toy Gun
Later in the movie, Col. Kirby is seen dramatically smashing one of Kowalski's M-16 against a tree. If you look carefully, the "weapon" is actually a Mattel M-16 Marauder, a plastic toy gun manufactured in the 1960's. Also, it would be near impossible for him to smash the aerospace-grade aluminum receivers by hand against a tree, which is what he would have done to really render the weapon unusable to the enemy. Like in most movies, this was done just to give viewers a 'macho' impression on the screen. The Marauder is also briefly seen in the hands of Kirby after the watchtower is brought down by enemy fire.
M60D Machine Gun
This is a M60D machine gun with spade grips mount in the Huey Helicopter for the crew chief and door gunner.
M60C Machine Guns mounted in M-6E3 Weapons System
This system, consisting of two double sets of M60C machine guns mounted above 8 shot rocket pods is seen attached to a UH-1 "Huey" (probably a C or D model) gunship in the movie.
Browning M2 Aircraft
Seen mounted on tripods throughout the A Camp is this aircraft version of the venerable Browning M2 easily denoted by the full length ventilated barrel shroud. The reason for using the M2 Aircraft version on film was the ease of blank conversion compared to the M2 Heavy Barrel ground gun.
M30 4.2 inch Mortar
Sergeant Peterson (Jim Hutton) and crew are seen manning a M30 4.2 inch Mortar during the VC attack.
Browning M1919A4 Machine Gun
A Browning M1919A4 Machine Gun is also used in the defense of the A Camp.
GE M134 Minigun
Seen in the interior of Puff The Magic Dragon (a name bestowed on most early USAF gunships) are a pair of devastating M134 miniguns.
M79 Grenade Launcher
The M79 Grenade Launcher glimpsed briefly (though never actually fired) in the movie is one of the U.S.'s more reliable light support weapons.
M1 Carbine
Seen mainly in the hands of the ARVN troopers as well as the U.S. Navy "Seabees" is this lightweight U.S. rifle although some are seen being carried by the VC.
M1 Garand
Seen in the hands of the ARVN troops as well as some VC is the all time classic U.S. battle rifle.
M14 Rifle
Both American and VC force are seen using the M14 rifle.
T26 Tanker Garand Rifle
During the evacuation of the A camp, a Mike Force member is briefly seen carrying the Tanker model of the M1 Garand.
Mauser Gew98 Rifle
The Mike Force soldier on the left has a Mauser Gew98 Rifle slung after the battle.
Mauser K98k Rifle
NVA Regular soldiers are seen grabbing their Mauser K98k Rifles during the extraction. It should be noted that both the NVA and the Viet Cong used a considerable number of Mauser Kar98k rifles during the Vietnam War (many of which were provided by the Soviet Union) and the rifles (along with the Mosin-Nagant) were used alongside the more prevalent AK-47 rifle and SKS carbine.
M18A1 Claymore
This standard (and extremely devastating) M18A1 Claymore U.S. anti-personnel mine makes a brief appearance in the film (though the "mine" displayed is clearly a training model given its blue coloring).
