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== Gatling gun as "GE M134 Minigun" ==
== Prop gatling gun ==


The T-1 robots that are sent on a rampage at CRS are seen equipped with oversized non functional Gatling gun props with CG muzzle flashes that are probably supposed to be standing in for [[GE M134 Minigun]]s. The Terminator manages to disable one of these robots and rips one of the Gatling guns off, somehow firing the electric powered weapon with no mechanical trigger by simply holding a makeshift handhold.  He uses it to destroy another T-1 down the hall.  Clearly overkill as in the Director's Cut and trailer of ''[[Terminator Salvation]]'' a T-1 is taken down using 5.56mm assault rifles.
The T-1 robots that are sent on a rampage at CRS are seen equipped with oversized non functional Gatling gun props with CG muzzle flashes that are probably supposed to be standing in for [[GE M134 Minigun]]s. The Terminator manages to disable one of these robots and rips one of the Gatling guns off, somehow firing the electric powered weapon with no mechanical trigger by simply holding a makeshift handhold.  He uses it to destroy another T-1 down the hall.  Clearly overkill as in the Director's Cut and trailer of ''[[Terminator Salvation]]'' a T-1 is taken down using 5.56mm assault rifles.

Revision as of 10:17, 10 May 2012

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Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003)

Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines is the 2003 sequel to The Terminator. This was the first Terminator film not directed by James Cameron as Jonathan Mostow (U-571) took over the reins. Arnold Schwarzenegger returns as another Terminator reprogrammed to protect an older John Connor (Nick Stahl) from another more deadly female Terminator known as the T-X (Kristanna Loken).

The following weapons were used in the film Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines:


Smith & Wesson 4506-1

In addition to her various built-in weapons, the T-X (Kristanna Loken) also uses a Smith & Wesson 4506-1 that she procured from an L.A.P.D. officer (Jay Acovone) who pulled her over. She uses it to terminate several targets until she encounters the main protagonists. Interestingly, the novelization referred to this as a SIG-Sauer.

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Smith & Wesson 4506-1 .45 ACP
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The Smith & Wesson 4506-1 in the L.A.P.D. officer's holster
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The T-X armed with a Smith & Wesson 4506-1.
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Closeup of the T-X's Smith & Wesson 4506-1 as she stands over one of her targets, William Anderson.
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The T-X's opens fire on William Anderson.

Remington 870

In addition to clothes and a vehicle, the Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) procures a Remington 870 shotgun with a high-capacity magazine tube, custom foregrip, and heat shield from the roadhouse he appears near. The Shotgun is also outfitted with the U.S.M.C.-style tube support clamp. This clamp usually has an M7 bayonet lug on it when used by the U.S. Marines, but Arnold's version has no bayonet lug. He then uses the shotgun during the first encounter with the T-X at the veterinary clinic and in the ensuing car chase.

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Remington 870 Trench Shotgun - 12 Gauge
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Remington 870 with USMC configuration - 12 Gauge
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Promo image of the Terminator with his Remington 870 after crashing his truck into the T-X
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The Terminator aims the 870 at the T-X.
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The Terminator fires the 870.
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The Terminator with the 870, before being blown back through the building by the T-X. Who has the bigger weapon?
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The Terminator fires his Remington 870 from an L.A.P.D. motorcycle during the car chase scene. The scene of him riding off with the motorcycle is almost exactly the same way he does it in The Terminator when chasing after Sarah Connor and in Terminator 2 again when he rescues John Connor from the T-1000, who was also driving a large truck.

Airsoft pistol

When raiding the veterinary clinic for drugs, John Connor (Nick Stahl) brandishes a airsoft or BB version of a Walther PPK. He ends up getting shot with it when Katherine Brewster (Claire Danes) manages to get it away from him.

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Walther PPK .380 ACP
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John Connor holds his airsoft pistol on Katherine Brewster during their encounter at the veterinary clinic
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Katherine Brewster with John Connor's pistol after having shot him with it

Glock 19

During the cemetery scene, Katherine Brewster (Claire Danes) grabs a Glock 19 pistol from a coffin full of weapons extracted from the 'grave' of Sarah Connor and demands to be released, believing that she had been abducted by the Terminator. When the Terminator tries to take the pistol from her she shoots him in the mouth with it, then looks on as the Terminator spits out the bullet and tells her "don't do that".

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Glock 19 9x19mm
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Promo image of Kate with her Glock 19 aimed at the Terminator.
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Closeup of the Glock 19 before Kate grabs it.
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Katherine aims the Glock 19 on the Terminator.
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"I'll shoot you, I swear I will!" Claire Danes despite being probably untrained, shows good trigger discipline.

Glock 17 (Full Auto Conversion)

A Glock 17 converted to fire on full-auto makes several appearances in the movie, first seen being loaded with a high-capacity magazine during the cemetery scene by the Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger). This appears to a converted Glock instead of the Glock 18 due to the lack of a selector switch. The Terminator is seen carrying it in his waistband when loading the other weapons from the hearst to the table by the recreational vehicle while the trio are en-route to CRS. Connor (Nick Stahl) fires it at the Crystal Peak base to ensure there's no Skynet-controlled machines lying in wait, and then when Connor is trying to hold off the T-X while Katherine tries to get the blast door open.

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Glock 17 with extended 33 round magazine
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The Terminator loading in a high-capacity magazine.
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The Terminator chambers a round.
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John Connor aims the Glock 17 on the approaching T-X at Crystal Peak
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Connor fires the Glock 17.
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Closeup of the Glock 17. Note the lack of a selector switch.
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Closeup of the Glock 17 firing. With live rounds it would extremely hard to control one handed.

Glock 36

When discussing their next plan of action after the cemetery, Connor (Nick Stahl) pulls a Glock 36 in frustration and threatens to shoot himself in the head if the Terminator doesn't follow his orders to go to CRS to rescue Katherine's father from the T-X.

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Glock 36 .45 ACP
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John threatens to shoot himself in the head with a Glock 36, should the Terminator refuse to follow orders.
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John threatens to change fate with a Glock 36

Heckler & Koch MP5A2

During the cemetery scene, a large number of the SWAT officers are seen using Heckler & Koch MP5A2's with the Navy trigger group and Surefire dedicated forend weaponlights.

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Heckler & Koch MP5A2 with Surefire dedicated forend weaponlight and Navy Trigger Group 9x19mm
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The SWAT leader (Matt Gerald) fires his MP5A2 at the Terminator
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A clearer shot of the MP5A2 proving that it has only three positions, thus is the A2 model with the Navy Trigger Group

Heckler & Koch UMP45

One of the weapons in the coffin taken from the cemetery is an Heckler & Koch UMP with the stock removed and fitted with a C-More red dot sight. It is first seen being set on a table prior to the recreational vehicle being commandeered, and again when the Terminator engages the T-X at CRS. It works extremely well (for a submachine gun) on the T-X: knocking it to the ground probably due to the rapid succession of large .45 caliber rounds. Where as we see time and time again-fire from 9x19mm Heckler & Koch MP5's, even multiple guns firing simultaneously, do little more than strip the biological covering as the Terminator advances at almost normal pace.

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Heckler & Koch UMP .45 ACP as used in the film
I don't think this is the same gun. The Terminator's gun has a custom flash hider (similar to the one seen in Live Free or Die Hard and Iron Man) but the pictured gun lacks this feature. -Gunman69 03:48, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
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Promo image of the Terminator firing the Heckler & Koch UMP, while also carrying a Penn Arms rotary launcher.
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The Terminator loading the Heckler & Koch UMP on the table.
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The Terminator aims the Heckler & Koch UMP at the T-X mimicking Kate.
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The Terminator fires the Heckler & Koch UMP at the T-X mimicking Kate before switching to the Penn Arms rotary launcher.

Heckler & Koch G36K

Yet another weapon from the coffin is a Heckler & Koch G36K with the stock removed and two magazines clipped together. It is first seen being carried from the wrecked hearse with the other weapons, then being used by the Terminator at the CRS facility firing on a flying robot, then again attempting to engage the T-X, only to find it out of ammo.

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Heckler & Koch G36K 5.56x45mm as used in the film
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Promo image of the Terminator armed with a modified H&K G36K while at the CRS facility
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The Terminator armed with a H&K G36K, making their way to Robert Brewster's office.
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The Terminator fires the H&K G36K at a mini HK-Aerial.
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The Terminator attempts to fire the H&K G36K at the T-X, only for it to be empty. He then goes hand to hand with T-X.

M4A1 Carbine

During the cemetery scene, some of the SWAT officers are armed with M4A1 carbines fitted with Surefire M500AB weaponlights and C-More red dot sights. Connor and several resistance fighters can also be seen raising M4A1's in victory in one of the scenes from the future at the beginning of the film, Connor's M4 mounting an M26 MASS shotgun, minus the magazine.

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M4A1 5.56x45mm
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A SWAT officer (right) armed with an M4A1 carbine during the cemetery shootout.

M4A1 with M26 MASS (Modular Accessory Shotgun System)

The early version of the M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System is seen mounted under the M4A1 held by the future John Connor in a future war sequence. This configuration would also be used by John Connor in Terminator Salvation.

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M4A1 5.56mm with M26 MASS 12 gauge
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John Connor raises an M4 fitted with a M26 MASS in victory in a scene from the future war.

Browning M1919

During the cemetery scene, the Terminator is seen using a Browning M1919 machine gun fitted with a drum magazine as well as a shoulder strap and special side-mounted trigger to allow him to fire the weapon one-handed from the hip. He uses the weapon to lay down covering fire on the SWAT officers, and just as in Terminator 2: Judgment Day, the damage is limited to the assembled police cars, with the SWAT officers not taking a single hit from the barrage. The Terminator's HUD indicates that the weapon fires an impossible 760 rounds in the few seconds that he hoses down the cop cars. The director notes that Arnold Schwarzenegger was able to handle Browning M1919 with no help other than the strap. (However, you can see the weapon starting to tilt up in a few shots.) But the coffin, despite being a lightweight built one, still weighed a few hundred pounds, so cables were attached to ease the handling. Arnold nearly lost a finger in this scene to one of the coffin squibs.

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Browning M1919 .30-06 on M2 tripod
The Terminator fires the Browning M1919 at the SWAT
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Closeup of the Browning M1919.
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The Terminator fires the Browning M1919.
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Despite dumping the Browning M1919 at the cemetery...
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...the Terminator is seen unloading it from the Hearse.

Beretta 92FS

The T-X can be seen at CRS wielding a Beretta 92FS pistol (presumably stolen from one of the military personnel working at the facility) when she terminates Katherine's father, Lt. General Robert Brewster (David Andrews), firing several rounds before the Terminator can stop her.

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Beretta 92FS 9x19mm
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The T-X fires the Beretta 92FS.

Sage Control SL-6 Rotary Launcher

Yet another weapon the Terminator gets from the coffin is a Sage Control SL-6 rotary launcher fitted with a C-More red dot sight and a bandoleer of 37mm grenades for it. The launcher is first seen being inspected after being taken from the coffin, then being used by the Terminator to knock the T-X through a wall and down a shaft before remarking that "she'll be back". For some reason, the grenades don't explode on impact with the T-X.

NOTE: they probably don't explode because they don't have explosive 37mm grenades, they only have 37mm flares, smoke, teargas, and other nonlethal ammo.

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Sage Control SL-6 Rotary Launcher - 37mm. This is the screen used Hero gun held and fired by Arnold Schwarzenegger in the film
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Promo image of the Terminator armed with a Sage Control SL-6 Rotary Launcher at CRS, moments after engaging the TX with the Heckler & Koch UMP45.
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The Terminator checks the Sage Control SL-6 Rotary Launcher.
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The Terminator aims the Sage Control SL-6 Rotary Launcher at the T-X.
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The Terminator fires the Sage Control SL-6 Rotary Launcher. This scene is similar to Terminator 2: Judgment Day climax scene at the steel factory.
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Business end of the Sage Control SL-6 Rotary Launcher

Type 69 RPG

Another of the weapons taken from the coffin is a Type 69 RPG launcher fitted with a PGO-7 scope as well as several rockets for it. The Terminator fires it from the hearse at the T-X, sending her flying and smashing into a headstone in the cemetery, blasting a gash in her right shoulder.

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Chinese Type 69 RPG 40mm
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Promo image of the Terminator as he prepares to fire the Type 69 RPG at the T-X
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The Terminator checks the Type 69 RPG.
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The Terminator aims the Type 69 RPG at the T-X.
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The Terminator fires the Type 69 RPG.
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The rocket has left the Hearse.

Prop gatling gun

The T-1 robots that are sent on a rampage at CRS are seen equipped with oversized non functional Gatling gun props with CG muzzle flashes that are probably supposed to be standing in for GE M134 Miniguns. The Terminator manages to disable one of these robots and rips one of the Gatling guns off, somehow firing the electric powered weapon with no mechanical trigger by simply holding a makeshift handhold. He uses it to destroy another T-1 down the hall. Clearly overkill as in the Director's Cut and trailer of Terminator Salvation a T-1 is taken down using 5.56mm assault rifles.

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GE M134 Minigun 7.62x51mm NATO
Promo image of t.he Terminator blasting away with a minigun from a defeated T-1 robot at CRS.
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Close up of the Gatling gun prop firing. Note that the barrel clamp discs aren't even attached to each other. A normal set of barrel clamps on a real GE Minigun has a central shaft running through the four discs.
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The T-1 shooting up the CRS facility.
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Front view of the T-1. These were Stan Winston built props, with 5 people controlling them.
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The Terminator commandeers one of the Gatling guns.
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The T-1 being shot up by the commandeered Gatling gun. These props are not particularly detailed. There is no external drive motor for the weapon (likely because it is on the same axis of the barrel cluster inside the "gun housing" since it doesn't actually chamber and fire rounds) or even a feeder/delinker for the ammunition. Where are the brass and links go during the Terminator's rampage is a mystery.

Custom AKMS

Another of the weapons taken from the coffin is an AKMS with a chopped barrel and two magazines held together with a dual-mag clamp. Connor is first seen using it, trying to defend himself from the T-X when she boards the Hearse he and the other two are making their escape from the cemetery in. It then appears several more times at CRS, most notably when Katherine uses it to destroy a mini HK-Aerial, and then when it's yanked out of Connor's hand by the electromagnet that attracts both the gun and the murderous T-X to it.

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Custom AKMS Assault Pistol with folded stock 7.62x39mm. The Custom rifle has parts from the Norinco Type 56 and the AKMS. In reality, these rifles don't interchange parts, but it was possible since the gun is massively customized and practically rebuilt from scratch
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Katherine Brewster grabs for the shortened AKMS dropped by John Connor
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Katherine Brewster lets loose with a shortened AKMS on a flying robot at CRS
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Katherine Brewster holds her custom AKMS after destroying the Hunter-killer Prototype
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The Custom AKMS stuck to the electromagnet after it activates. This is a dummy mockup of the firing gun. The bayonet lug is missing and the pistol grip is a cut piece of plywood

L85A1

What appears to be an L85A1 is held up by one of the Resistance fighters celebrating the defeat of the machines.

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L85A1 with SUSAT scope 5.56x45mm
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A resistance fighter on the lower left with an L85A1.

M16A2 Rifle

Some resistance fighters in the future war scene are seen with M16A2 rifles.

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M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm.
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A resistance fighter waves an M16A2 in the air (circled in red).

Cemetery Arsenal

When the Terminator opens Sarah Connor's coffin and finds weapons you either see it in there or see it pulled out which include: a Browning M1919 with drum magazine, a Glock 18, one Glock 19, a bandolier of 40mm grenades, PG-7VM RPG rockets, one Norinco Type 69 RPG, an Ithaca 37 "Stakeout", .50 BMG rounds, a custom version of the AKMS, a Sage Control SL-6 rotary launcher, several blocks of C4 plastic explosive, one Heckler & Koch G36K, and one Heckler & Koch UMP, and the carry handle/rear sight of an M16-series rifle.

There's also two 5.56x45mm Beta-C Drum Magazines in the lower-right corner of the second pic. Why the Terminator did not use those when facing the T-X at CRS is unknown.

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Overhead shot of the protagonists looking at the coffin arsenal
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Closeup of the coffin arsenal

Westinghouse M95A1 Phased Plasma Rifle

The fictional Westinghouse M95A1 Phased Plasma Rifle is seen being used by the endoskeleton Terminators in the future scenes of the film. This weapon was built on the Calico M960 9mm submachine gun.

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M95A1 Phased Plasma Rifle
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Calico M960 9x19mm
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See Also

Terminator Series