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==M16 (SP1)== | ==M16 (SP1)== | ||
John Triton ([[John Cena]]) uses an [[M16 rifle series#M16 Rifle|M16 (SP1)]] rifle fitted with a [[Cobray 37mm Launcher]] to dispatch Al | John Triton ([[John Cena]]) uses an [[M16 rifle series#M16 Rifle|M16 (SP1)]] rifle fitted with a [[Cobray 37mm Launcher]] to dispatch Al Qaeda torturing US Marines during the opening scene in the film. The gun is fitted with an A1-stlye birdcage muzzle break, which gives a large and impressive "star pattern" muzzle flash. The original slab-side M16 was never fielded with the US Marines, so how or why he is using this old gun is not known. | ||
[[Image:M16-SP1-withM203launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16 (SP1) fitted with M203 grenade launcher - 5.56x45mm/40mm. This image is a combination of two pictures taken by [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]].]] | [[Image:M16-SP1-withM203launcher.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16 (SP1) fitted with M203 grenade launcher - 5.56x45mm/40mm. This image is a combination of two pictures taken by [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]].]] | ||
[[Image:Marine1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Promotional image of John Triton firing the M16 (SP1) fitted with a Cobray CM203 37mm flare launcher.]] | [[Image:Marine1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Promotional image of John Triton firing the M16 (SP1) fitted with a Cobray CM203 37mm flare launcher.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineM16-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Triton denies his direct order to hold back and jumps in firing his M16 (SP1) to kill all of the Al | [[Image:MarineM16-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Triton denies his direct order to hold back and jumps in firing his M16 (SP1) to kill all of the Al Qaeda torturing US Marines.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineM16-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Schwarzenegger wannabe. No real Marine would ever fire his rifle like this.]] | [[Image:MarineM16-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Schwarzenegger wannabe. No real Marine would ever fire his rifle like this.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineM16-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the immense muzzle flash the rifle produces.]] | [[Image:MarineM16-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A good shot of the immense muzzle flash the rifle produces.]] | ||
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==Norinco Type 56== | ==Norinco Type 56== | ||
The Al | The Al Qaeda members torturing U.S. Marines during the opening scene are mainly armed with [[AK-47#Norinco Type 56|Norinco Type 56]] rifles, fitted with underfolding 'pig-sticker' bayonets and [[AK-47#AKM|AKM]]-style muzzle brakes. | ||
[[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56 with "pig-sticker" bayonet - 7.62x39mm.]] | [[Image:ChineseType56.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Norinco Type 56 with "pig-sticker" bayonet - 7.62x39mm.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineNorincoPTL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrel of a Norinco Type 56 in the background. Note hooded front sight and milled | [[Image:MarineNorincoPTL-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The barrel of a Norinco Type 56 in the background. Note hooded front sight and milled receiver.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineNorincoPTL-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Al | [[Image:MarineNorincoPTL-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Al Qaeda to the right with a Norinco Type 56.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineNorincoPTL-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Al | [[Image:MarineNorincoPTL-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Al Qaeda fires his Type 56 at Triton.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineNorincoPTL-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Al | [[Image:MarineNorincoPTL-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Al Qaeda engulfed in flames by a grenade round fires his Type 56.]] | ||
==Custom Norinco MAK-90== | ==Custom Norinco MAK-90== | ||
At least one of the Al | At least one of the Al Qaeda is seen using a custom built [[AK-47|Norinco MAK-90]] with a homemade folding stock and a [[Galil]] receiver cover. | ||
::How do you know it's a MAK-90? If it doesn't have the thumbhole stock, then a clear shot of the front sight would help. The MAK-90s were forced to grind down the bottoms of the front sight to not allow attachment of the cleaning rod (Don't ask me what the bizarre rationale by ATF was for that piece of regulation). MPM2008 If it's not a MAK-90 then it's a Type 56 or Norinco AK customized. | ::How do you know it's a MAK-90? If it doesn't have the thumbhole stock, then a clear shot of the front sight would help. The MAK-90s were forced to grind down the bottoms of the front sight to not allow attachment of the cleaning rod (Don't ask me what the bizarre rationale by ATF was for that piece of regulation). MPM2008 If it's not a MAK-90 then it's a Type 56 or Norinco AK customized. | ||
[[Image:MarineUnknownAK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Al Qaeda terrorist holding a custom built Norinco MAK-90. This guy looks like he actually knows how to use the gun he's holding.]] | [[Image:MarineUnknownAK-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Al Qaeda terrorist holding a custom built Norinco MAK-90. This guy looks like he actually knows how to use the gun he's holding.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineUnknownAK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen left.]] | [[Image:MarineUnknownAK-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Seen left.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineUnknownAK-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Al Qaeda firing at Triton. Since Al Qaeda is an terrorist group with loose affiliations, not a race or creed, anyone can be a member, including Iranians. Persians/Iranians are notably fair skinned, though they are often portrayed in films as | [[Image:MarineUnknownAK-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Al Qaeda firing at Triton. Since Al Qaeda is an terrorist group with loose affiliations, not a race or creed, anyone can be a member, including Iranians. Persians/Iranians are notably fair skinned, though they are often portrayed in films as darken skinned like Saudis, which is incorrect.]] | ||
==RPD Light Machine Gun== | ==RPD Light Machine Gun== | ||
One of the Al | One of the Al Qaeda shooting at a US chopper is using an [[RPD Light Machine Gun]] during the opening scene. | ||
[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPD Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm.]] | [[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|400px|RPD Light Machine Gun - 7.62x39mm.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineRPD-1-RPKvariant-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Al | [[Image:MarineRPD-1-RPKvariant-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Al Qaeda in the middle fires his RPD LMG.]] | ||
==Unknown RPK Variant== | ==Unknown RPK Variant== | ||
One of the Al | One of the Al Qaeda shooting at a US chopper is using an unknown [[RPK]] variant. A US Marine is also seen using one taken off a dead Al Queda as he escapes with John Triton ([[John Cena]]). It appears to be a [[Valmet M78]] based on the receiver but the muzzle is hard to see. | ||
::It is one of those hard to find Norinco RPK Clones that were sold in the 1980s. Either an NMD-86 or the AK Match. Or it is a modified NHM-91 long barrel. I will try to find a pic [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | ::It is one of those hard to find Norinco RPK Clones that were sold in the 1980s. Either an NMD-86 or the AK Match. Or it is a modified NHM-91 long barrel. I will try to find a pic [[User:MoviePropMaster2008|MoviePropMaster2008]] 19:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
[[Image:Norinco-NHM-91.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Norinco NHM-91, the post 1990 Ban import U.S. version had a thumbhole stock installed - 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:Norinco-NHM-91.jpg|thumb|500px|none|Norinco NHM-91, the post 1990 Ban import U.S. version had a thumbhole stock installed - 7.62x39mm]] | ||
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[[Image:MarineRPKvariant-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Marine to the right holds a liberated RPK variant with a 75 round drum. Note "clubfoot" stock. Also note the ridiculous getup Cena is wearing, which is definitely not standard issue to Marines.]] | [[Image:MarineRPKvariant-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Marine to the right holds a liberated RPK variant with a 75 round drum. Note "clubfoot" stock. Also note the ridiculous getup Cena is wearing, which is definitely not standard issue to Marines.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineRPD-1-RPKvariant-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Al | [[Image:MarineRPD-1-RPKvariant-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Al Qaeda to the left fires his RPK.]] | ||
==Unknown Pistol== | ==Unknown Pistol== | ||
During the opening scene, John Triton ([[John Cena]]) uses an unknown pistol to shoot several Al | During the opening scene, John Triton ([[John Cena]]) uses an unknown pistol to shoot several Al Qaeda members. The gun is never shown in focus but if it is true to real Marine issue, he would be using a [[Beretta 92FS]], military designation "M9". Even so, it also looks a bit like an [[M1911A1]]. | ||
[[Image:MarineUnknownPistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Triton fires his pistol.]] | [[Image:MarineUnknownPistol-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Triton fires his pistol.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineRPD-1-RPKvariant-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Al | [[Image:MarineRPD-1-RPKvariant-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An Al Qaeda (right) is also seen with an unknown pistol, which is out of focus but looks like either a [[Tokarev TT-33]] or a [[Beretta 92FS]]. It also bears resemblance to a [[Browning BDM]].]] | ||
:He is Force Recon, those guys don't use the | :He is Force Recon, those guys don't use the Beretta they carry M1911's. So it is right if it's a 1911. | ||
::While it would be correct, his uniform and rifle aren't correct, so why should we trust that his sidearm is? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | ::While it would be correct, his uniform and rifle aren't correct, so why should we trust that his sidearm is? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | ||
:::It looks like a 1911 to me though. the barrel diameter is huge and it just has the shape to it. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]] | :::It looks like a 1911 to me though. the barrel diameter is huge and it just has the shape to it. -[[User:The Winchester|The Winchester]] | ||
==GE M134 Minigun (Acetylene Gas Firing)== | ==GE M134 Minigun (Acetylene Gas Firing)== | ||
The helicopter during the | The helicopter during the opening scene fires off a chin-mounted [[GE M134 Minigun]] during the opening scene, which is actually firing Acetylene gas to fake fire. This footage is taken from the film ''[[Rambo III]]'' (when Col. Trautman ([[Richard Crenna]]) is captured), and the helicopter is a Aérospatiale Puma mocked up as a Russian MIL Mi-24 Hind. The Minigun is standing in for the YakB 12.7mm which is typically mounted on real Hinds. | ||
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO.]] | [[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|400px|GE M134 Minigun - 7.62x51mm NATO.]] | ||
[[Image:YakB-127mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Yak-B Gatling Gun - 12.7mm.]] | [[Image:YakB-127mm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|A Yak-B Gatling Gun - 12.7mm.]] | ||
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[[Image:MarineTaurusPT92AFS-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note how the magazine is falling out here.]] | [[Image:MarineTaurusPT92AFS-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Note how the magazine is falling out here.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineTaurusPT92AFS-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Angela points her PT99 at Kate Triton ([[Kelly Carlson]]).]] | [[Image:MarineTaurusPT92AFS-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Angela points her PT99 at Kate Triton ([[Kelly Carlson]]).]] | ||
[[Image:MarineTaurusPT92AFS-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Angela draws her PT99 | [[Image:MarineTaurusPT92AFS-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Angela draws her PT99 hidden in the small of her back before killing a truck driver. In this shot, we can see that her PT99 is fitted with Hogue grips.]] | ||
==Taurus PT92 AFS== | ==Taurus PT92 AFS== | ||
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[[Image:MarineColt733-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of this scene. Note how the rifle is shooting pretty much ''dead on'' to Triton.]] | [[Image:MarineColt733-5.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of this scene. Note how the rifle is shooting pretty much ''dead on'' to Triton.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineColt733-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bennett does a mag change.]] | [[Image:MarineColt733-6.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bennett does a mag change.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineColt733-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bennett chambers the 733. Note how the round seen in the ejection port is a dummy round, which is | [[Image:MarineColt733-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bennett chambers the 733. Note how the round seen in the ejection port is a dummy round, which is uprising since most people don't bother to use dummy rounds when the shot is literally under a second long.]] | ||
[[Image:MarineColt733-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bennett fires the 733.]] | [[Image:MarineColt733-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Bennett fires the 733.]] | ||
Revision as of 05:33, 29 January 2012
The following guns were used in the film The Marine:
M16 (SP1)
John Triton (John Cena) uses an M16 (SP1) rifle fitted with a Cobray 37mm Launcher to dispatch Al Qaeda torturing US Marines during the opening scene in the film. The gun is fitted with an A1-stlye birdcage muzzle break, which gives a large and impressive "star pattern" muzzle flash. The original slab-side M16 was never fielded with the US Marines, so how or why he is using this old gun is not known.
Cobray CM203 Launcher
Attached to John Triton's (John Cena) M16 (SP1) rifle is a Cobray CM203 Flare Launcher, standing in for M203 grenade launcher. Unlike a real grenade launcher, it is shown capable of detonation at very close ranges, which is not possible with real grenade rounds do to a safety feature based on how many times the round spins in flight. Also, the explosion of the round is depicted as a huge fireball which engulfs the bad guys, another piece of film fiction.
Norinco Type 56
The Al Qaeda members torturing U.S. Marines during the opening scene are mainly armed with Norinco Type 56 rifles, fitted with underfolding 'pig-sticker' bayonets and AKM-style muzzle brakes.
Custom Norinco MAK-90
At least one of the Al Qaeda is seen using a custom built Norinco MAK-90 with a homemade folding stock and a Galil receiver cover.
- How do you know it's a MAK-90? If it doesn't have the thumbhole stock, then a clear shot of the front sight would help. The MAK-90s were forced to grind down the bottoms of the front sight to not allow attachment of the cleaning rod (Don't ask me what the bizarre rationale by ATF was for that piece of regulation). MPM2008 If it's not a MAK-90 then it's a Type 56 or Norinco AK customized.
RPD Light Machine Gun
One of the Al Qaeda shooting at a US chopper is using an RPD Light Machine Gun during the opening scene.
Unknown RPK Variant
One of the Al Qaeda shooting at a US chopper is using an unknown RPK variant. A US Marine is also seen using one taken off a dead Al Queda as he escapes with John Triton (John Cena). It appears to be a Valmet M78 based on the receiver but the muzzle is hard to see.
- It is one of those hard to find Norinco RPK Clones that were sold in the 1980s. Either an NMD-86 or the AK Match. Or it is a modified NHM-91 long barrel. I will try to find a pic MoviePropMaster2008 19:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Is this the gun? MPM2008
Unknown Pistol
During the opening scene, John Triton (John Cena) uses an unknown pistol to shoot several Al Qaeda members. The gun is never shown in focus but if it is true to real Marine issue, he would be using a Beretta 92FS, military designation "M9". Even so, it also looks a bit like an M1911A1.
- He is Force Recon, those guys don't use the Beretta they carry M1911's. So it is right if it's a 1911.
- While it would be correct, his uniform and rifle aren't correct, so why should we trust that his sidearm is? - Gunmaster45
- It looks like a 1911 to me though. the barrel diameter is huge and it just has the shape to it. -The Winchester
- While it would be correct, his uniform and rifle aren't correct, so why should we trust that his sidearm is? - Gunmaster45
GE M134 Minigun (Acetylene Gas Firing)
The helicopter during the opening scene fires off a chin-mounted GE M134 Minigun during the opening scene, which is actually firing Acetylene gas to fake fire. This footage is taken from the film Rambo III (when Col. Trautman (Richard Crenna) is captured), and the helicopter is a Aérospatiale Puma mocked up as a Russian MIL Mi-24 Hind. The Minigun is standing in for the YakB 12.7mm which is typically mounted on real Hinds.
Jericho 941 F
Rome (Robert Patrick) carries a brushed chrome Jericho 941F (meaning his has a frame mounted safety) as his sidearm in the film, chambered in .45 ACP.
Taurus PT99
Angela (Abigail Bianca) is given an older model stainless Taurus PT99 by Rome (Robert Patrick), who takes it off a guard during the first robbery and carries it as her sidearm in the film.
Taurus PT92 AFS
Bennett (Manu Bennett) carries a pair of stainless Taurus PT92 AFS pistols during the robbery and continues to carry a single PT92-AFS for the rest of the film.
Beretta 92SB
Do to continuity error, Bennett's (Manu Bennett) Taurus PT92 changes into a nickel plated Beretta 92SB when he looks for Morgan (Anthony Ray Parker) under the fishing hut.
Beretta 92FS
A South Carolina Police officer hunting down Rome (Robert Patrick) and his gang holds his Beretta 92FS on John Triton (John Cena) when he finds him in the woods. After Triton turns his handcuffs on himself with his Marine-style hand-to-hand, he takes the officers Beretta from him, but never uses it.
Colt Model 733
Rome (Robert Patrick) takes a Colt Model 733 carbine from the back of his car during the robbery and uses it to hose down a police car before the car is destroyed by Morgan's (Anthony Ray Parker) rocket launcher. Later, Bennett (Manu Bennett) uses the same gun to shoot at Triton (John Cena) as he pursues them in a police Camaro.
Armbrust ATW
Morgan (Anthony Ray Parker) uses an "Israeli Shoulder Fired Single Shot Rocket Launcher" (in reality a German Armbrust ATW) to blow up a police cruiser once Rome's (Robert Patrick) Colt Model 733 proves ineffective. The Armbrust is manufactured by Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm and licensed to Singapore. It is a lightweight 67mm Single shot rocket system (just like the American M72 LAW) except that it is one of the few weapons of that type that is safe to fire from within an enclosed space.
Smith & Wesson Model 14
The two cops at the gas station carry Smith & Wesson Model 14 revolvers, even though the rest of the state police carry Beretta 92FS pistols. After John Triton's (John Cena) wife Kate (Kelly Carlson) is kidnapped by Rome's (Robert Patrick) gang, he takes an officer's Model 14 and a speed loader and begins the chase. Unfortunately the gun is knocked from his hand before he can reload and is thus never used.
Ruger P95
Morgan (Anthony Ray Parker) carries a Ruger P95 as his sidearm in the film.
Heckler & Koch P7M13
When Morgan (Anthony Ray Parker) is in the chop-shop looking for a good getaway car, a guard doing a pat-down discovers a pistol on him, which appears to be a Heckler & Koch P7M13.
Heckler & Koch USP-9
Agent Van Buren (Jerome Ehlers) carries a Heckler & Koch USP-9 as his sidearm in the film.
IMI Uzi
Morgan (Anthony Ray Parker) uses an IMI Uzi to shoot at Triton (John Cena) during the car chase scene.
Remington 870 custom
A hick in the woods holds a Remington 870 shotgun with an old style USMC heatshield and bayonet lug adapter and sawed off buttstock, on Triton (John Cena) when he accuses him of being a cop. It resembles the shotgun used by Denzel Washington in Training Day, Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando and Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, Woody Harrelson in Natural Born Killers and a random thug in Desperado.
Browning Hi-Power
Morgan (Anthony Ray Parker) is also seen holding a Browning Hi-Power while in the chop-shop.
CZ 75B
Vescera (Damon Gibson) uses a CZ 75B to shoot at Triton (John Cena) during the car chase.
