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:Subtle differences, like a slightly different shaped slide, rounded trigger guard, bigger backstrap and internals, but more or less, yes it is just a P99 with S&W logos [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] | :Subtle differences, like a slightly different shaped slide, rounded trigger guard, bigger backstrap and internals, but more or less, yes it is just a P99 with S&W logos [[User:M14fanboy|M14fanboy]] | ||
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Revision as of 22:59, 3 December 2011
.38 special bullets actually measure .357in OD.
Silver Bullets
- Silver bullets are more effective than lead against BIG GAME because silver is much harder than lead and does not deform as much on impact. This means that the silver bullet penetrates deeper into the target, which is why BIG GAME HUNTERS use silver bullets when hunting BIG GAME (they are much more likely to kill the animal on the first shot than they are with a lead round)-S&Wshooter 19:40, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Cite your soucres, silver is too valuable to be used as a projectile
- I've met a few big game hunters, and that's what they told me they use (they only buy small batches though)-S&Wshooter 04:48, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- From Wikipedia, not 100% accurate all the time, but this sounds right to me.
"Contrary to the legend that a silver bullet is vastly superior over a lead bullet, the opposite is true. Lead is a soft metal, while silver is much harder. This gives lead two critical advantages over silver. First, as the bullet travels down the barrel of a modern gun, it takes advantage of rifling, which spins the bullet in order to provide a better trajectory. A soft lead bullet will grip the rifling, allowing it to spin. A hard silver bullet won't be able to grip the rifling, and therefore spin significantly less, if it spins at all. Also, when a lead bullet enters a body, the soft lead flattens out and tears a large hole through tissue. The silver bullet, on the other hand, retains its shape as it passes through a body and makes a much smaller hole, making it less likely to cause lethal bleeding or to strike a vital organ."
I know of Ballistic Silvertip bullets, which are apparently very effective. Though I do not know if they are pure silver or just a silver coloured metal. --Crazycrankle 06:44, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
- I think I will believe the word of 3 honest men over that of wikipedia-S&Wshooter 21:23, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
I found this picture online. It's not seen in the show but still, uh, interesting. --redram355 22:29, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah I think the poster is from one of the two "James Bond" specials they did. One of the specials had a rather interesting use of a Dillon Aero minigun. --Charon68 23:17, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
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Remington 700
- In one episode, to test the "Shooting through the scope" myth, Adam and Jamie, along with the range owner, tested shooting throught the scope with a .308 caliber Remington 700. If they really wanted to test it properly, they would have used a Winchester Model 70 .30-06 rifle, and would have known that both scopes must be perfectly aligned for the project to work. Also, Hathcock was much closer to his target, while they tested it at 100 yards and innaccurately at point blank.
- Hathcock said in his own words that he shot through a RIFLE scope, and pondered that if he had waited another second, the other sniper would have likely done the same to him, since to shoot through the scope requires both scopes to be aimed dead on to each other.
They retested it with a .30-06 later.
Hathcock shot the enemy sniper through the old 3.5x scope mounted on his Mosin-Nagant, it said specifically in Marine Sniper. Hathcock also wondered if he would be able to take the rifle home as a souvenier, but he never saw it again.
They shot the wrong scope too-S&Wshooter 00:44, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Didn't Hathcock use an M14 or M40 as his rifle
No, GSgt Carlos Hathcock specificaly said he preferred the Winchester m70 .30-06 spgfld over the Remington m40a1 .308 winchester (.308 NATO) which was desighned to replace the Winchester m70s due to the fact that the m70 was just a "hunting rifle" per say and was not developed for usage as a "sniper rifle". And the "sniper" varient of the m14 was designated the m21. -Drh
I actually have read in one article that when Hathcock came back for his second tour that he was surprised to still see that the core was still using the the Model 70s and was expecting that they'd be replaced by the M40s.
Also just as a fact, the original M40s WERE designed as a hunting rifle. Heavy varmit barrels, plain finish on the stock and barrel. only real difference was the caliber. Also Hathcock did in fact use an M40 to obtain his last few kills in Vietnam.
as for the M21, he was known to use not only that rifle but also an M1D, however none of his famous shots were made with those rifles; the only famous shot he made without his trusty model 70 was his distance record setting kill which was made with a M2 machine gun with a specially developed mount for his scope
Smith & Wesson SW99
- Season 6, episode 1 "James Bond Special 1": Kari tries to pierce a propane tank with a Smith & Wesson SW99 - and fails.
I remember this episode. Kind of aggravated me when they misidentified it as Bond's gun.
- Correct. Though the S&W99 resembles the Walther P99, it certainly is NOT James Bond's gun. This show gets it wrong a lot regarding weapons (not the physics, but attributions and historical details). The proof of physics is good, their historical fact checking is bad.
but its still chambered in 9mm same as the actual P99 is, unless Bond was using .40 S&W version of the P99, which is doubtful because its clearly a 9mm.
- Regardless, it's NOT 007's weapon. Kind of like how a Norinco Type 56 isn't a genuine, true-blue Russian-produced AK-47. --Clutch 03:44, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
The Walther P99 is now used by bond in the later movies. And the only difference between the Walther and the S&W are the markings and the cosmetics. Besides that they are basicly the same gun and the reason Mythbusters used a S&W is they the only version you can get new. S&W is now importing the Walther for the Germans and that is the same gun.
- Isn't a SW99 just a P99 assembled by S&W for Walther, who also import their PP series through S&W?-S&Wshooter 19:47, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- Subtle differences, like a slightly different shaped slide, rounded trigger guard, bigger backstrap and internals, but more or less, yes it is just a P99 with S&W logos M14fanboy
Kimber?
I don't think that's a Kimber, looks to me like a Colt Gold Cup National Match and the original style rear sight has been changed out. The flat top is another giveaway.--Predator20 20:14, 1 December 2011 (CST)
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Pretty sure it's the same one used here. --Predator20 20:14, 1 December 2011 (CST)
Not a Kimber at all, slide serrations are wrong and it also lacks the front slide serrations that come with a Kimber, not the mention the lack of markings where they should be if it was a Kimber. The slide shape is wrong as well, what Predator20 mentioned about the flat top, most Kimbers have a curved top, and the hammer is wrong too. (I realise that they could have changed the hammer for an aftermarket one) --cool-breeze 20:48, 1 December 2011 (CST)
- A Les Bear maybe or some other type of custom 1911, still could be a custom Gold Cup. - Mr. Wolf 19:09, 2 December 2011 (CST)
- I think all full size Les Bear's have front cocking serrations along with a skeleton hammer, so don't think it is that. Don't think it is a Gold Cup either, as the grip safety is wrong along with the profiling of the slide behind the ejection port. Also, although I have seen Gold Cups with dovetail rear sights rather than the Ellasian ones, they are not recessed into the slide like these ones are. This is either something else of has been hevily customised. --commando552 19:42, 2 December 2011 (CST)
- My Les Baer doesn't have front cocking serrations, but it had to be ordered without them. The serrations are wider compared Baers. It has spur hammer and it appears the grip safety has been changed out to the duck-bill type. You can see the remnants of the Ellasian sight notch in the second pic. --Predator20 20:05, 2 December 2011 (CST)
- I think all full size Les Bear's have front cocking serrations along with a skeleton hammer, so don't think it is that. Don't think it is a Gold Cup either, as the grip safety is wrong along with the profiling of the slide behind the ejection port. Also, although I have seen Gold Cups with dovetail rear sights rather than the Ellasian ones, they are not recessed into the slide like these ones are. This is either something else of has been hevily customised. --commando552 19:42, 2 December 2011 (CST)
Unknown .50 rifle
I don't know what it is but the .50 BMG rifle from "Drive to Survive" is definitely not an AR-50. An AR-50 is a conventional single shot bolt action whereas this gun is a bullpup shell holder action. It looks quite a lot like the LAR Grizzly Big-Bore but there are a few differences so not sure, could be a variant/custom. --commando552 11:58, 2 December 2011 (CST)
The only difference that I see is what appears to be a trigger guard, for lack of a better term. I concur that it is definitely not an AR-50 and it really does look like the LAR Grizzly Big-Bore. --Zackmann08 15:35, 3 December 2011 (CST)