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==Racist==
I try to stay away from making "too" (however I'm not a monk) many political statements when it comes to actors, but this guy is a racist. Watch some of his movies. White people are often portrayed as filth in his movies. Evil, murderous, corrupt. There might be one or two token white people who help his heroes ,but they usually get killed such as Baldwin in ''Posse'' and see ''Panther'' (1995). Am I saying that he shouldn't have a page? No, but I just wanted to get that out there. But then his father ,Melvin Van Peebles, was known to make some pretty inflammatory movies back in the day as well.See ''Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song''. I don't care what film citics/historians say about the impact the early films made on Black audiences. In this day and age Mario's films (written and/or directed by him) are racist. Filled with hate. Two wrongs don't make a right. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 09:08, 3 October 2011 (CDT)
I try to stay away from making "too" (however I'm not a monk) many political statements when it comes to actors, but this guy is a racist. Watch some of his movies. White people are often portrayed as filth in his movies. Evil, murderous, corrupt. There might be one or two token white people who help his heroes ,but they usually get killed such as Baldwin in ''Posse'' and see ''Panther'' (1995). Am I saying that he shouldn't have a page? No, but I just wanted to get that out there. But then his father ,Melvin Van Peebles, was known to make some pretty inflammatory movies back in the day as well.See ''Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song''. I don't care what film citics/historians say about the impact the early films made on Black audiences. In this day and age Mario's films (written and/or directed by him) are racist. Filled with hate. Two wrongs don't make a right. --[[User:Jcordell|Jcordell]] 09:08, 3 October 2011 (CDT)
I respect your opinion, and I must respectfully disagree with giving the actor such a label.  The first two films he directed had villains that were not just of one ethnicity. My take is that he was making those two films to portray characters that were under represented in films to that date (haven't seen Panther, so I can't make a judgment on it).  Yes, there were some objectionable scenes, but there are other directors who have included far more incendiary scenes in their films.  He's also worked with directors and actors of varying ethnicity and can't see that he would continue to be hired in the mainstream if he held such beliefs.  You've been such a great contributor to the site and I hope this disagreement doesn't sour any more conversation.    I hope that you would also agree that just because a user makes a page for a film, that the user necessarily agrees with the politics of the director or the film.  --[[User:Ben41|Ben41]] 00:31, 4 October 2011 (CDT)

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I try to stay away from making "too" (however I'm not a monk) many political statements when it comes to actors, but this guy is a racist. Watch some of his movies. White people are often portrayed as filth in his movies. Evil, murderous, corrupt. There might be one or two token white people who help his heroes ,but they usually get killed such as Baldwin in Posse and see Panther (1995). Am I saying that he shouldn't have a page? No, but I just wanted to get that out there. But then his father ,Melvin Van Peebles, was known to make some pretty inflammatory movies back in the day as well.See Sweet Sweetback's Baadasssss Song. I don't care what film citics/historians say about the impact the early films made on Black audiences. In this day and age Mario's films (written and/or directed by him) are racist. Filled with hate. Two wrongs don't make a right. --Jcordell 09:08, 3 October 2011 (CDT)

I respect your opinion, and I must respectfully disagree with giving the actor such a label. The first two films he directed had villains that were not just of one ethnicity. My take is that he was making those two films to portray characters that were under represented in films to that date (haven't seen Panther, so I can't make a judgment on it). Yes, there were some objectionable scenes, but there are other directors who have included far more incendiary scenes in their films. He's also worked with directors and actors of varying ethnicity and can't see that he would continue to be hired in the mainstream if he held such beliefs. You've been such a great contributor to the site and I hope this disagreement doesn't sour any more conversation. I hope that you would also agree that just because a user makes a page for a film, that the user necessarily agrees with the politics of the director or the film. --Ben41 00:31, 4 October 2011 (CDT)