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==Smith & Wesson Model 29== | ==Smith & Wesson Model 29== | ||
Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. | Porter ([[Mel Gibson]]) uses a blued [[Smith & Wesson Model 29]] 4" with S&W factory combat grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. '''See the discussion page for comparisons and additional information.''' | ||
[[Image:M29S&W4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel.]] | [[Image:M29S&W4.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 29 with 4" barrel.]] | ||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a Smith & Wesson Model 29 from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]] | [[Image:PaybackS&W27-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The pawn shop owner hands Porter a Smith & Wesson Model 29 from off the rack. His lack of gun safety is pretty obvious as he hands him the gun with the hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger.]] | ||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. '''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap. | [[Image:PaybackS&W27-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|'''Left:''' Porter swings open the cylinder and spins it. A ratcheting sound effect is heard even though there is nothing for the cylinder to ratchet against. '''Right:''' Porter examines the barrel. Note the smooth topstrap and bull barrel. Both consistent with a Model 29.]] | ||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After doing some flashy twirling, Porter hands the shop owner the Model 29 back to make a purchase. Without a background check it is doubtful he would have actually made the purchase. For some reason he isn't shown buying cartridges either...]] | [[Image:PaybackS&W27-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|After doing some flashy twirling, Porter hands the shop owner the Model 29 back to make a purchase. Without a background check it is doubtful he would have actually made the purchase. For some reason he isn't shown buying cartridges either...]] | ||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter searches his wife's house with his Model 29 at the ready.]] | [[Image:PaybackS&W27-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter searches his wife's house with his Model 29 at the ready.]] | ||
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[[Image:PaybackS&W27-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter shoots Val in Rosie's ([[Maria Bello]]) house.]] | [[Image:PaybackS&W27-7.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter shoots Val in Rosie's ([[Maria Bello]]) house.]] | ||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter uses a pillow to muffle the gunshot as he executes Val. This is movie fiction, as a pillow would not properly suppress a handgun, especially a revolver. It is also pointless since three rounds are fired before this. Although he could have simply used the pillow to deflect the bloodspray caused by a closerange headshot.]] | [[Image:PaybackS&W27-8.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter uses a pillow to muffle the gunshot as he executes Val. This is movie fiction, as a pillow would not properly suppress a handgun, especially a revolver. It is also pointless since three rounds are fired before this. Although he could have simply used the pillow to deflect the bloodspray caused by a closerange headshot.]] | ||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Arthur Stegman ([[David Paymer]]) holds a Model 29 on Porter in the back of a Taxi cab before he takes it from him.]] | [[Image:PaybackS&W27-10.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Arthur Stegman ([[David Paymer]]) holds a Model 29 on Porter in the back of a Taxi cab before he takes it from him.]] | ||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires the two guns through the floor of the Triad van. You can see he is simply dry-firing the gun as no muzzle flash is seen, likely a safety precaution for firing blanks at such close proximity.]] | [[Image:PaybackS&W27-12.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires the two guns through the floor of the Triad van. You can see he is simply dry-firing the gun as no muzzle flash is seen, likely a safety precaution for firing blanks at such close proximity.]] | ||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of the guns firing, with excellent shots of the gun's markings.]] | [[Image:PaybackS&W27-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of the guns firing, with excellent shots of the gun's markings.]] | ||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter rolls out from under the van and shoots the Triad driver.]] | [[Image:PaybackS&W27-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter rolls out from under the van and shoots the Triad driver.]] | ||
[[Image:PaybackS&w27-17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Internal Affairs officers show off Porter's original Model 29 to Det. Hicks ([[Bill Duke]]) and Det. Leary ([[Jack Conley]]) after Porter left the gun (covered with their fingerprints) at the scene of Val's murder, along with one of their badges.]] | [[Image:PaybackS&w27-17.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Internal Affairs officers show off Porter's original Model 29 to Det. Hicks ([[Bill Duke]]) and Det. Leary ([[Jack Conley]]) after Porter left the gun (covered with their fingerprints) at the scene of Val's murder, along with one of their badges.]] | ||
==Smith & Wesson Model 28== | |||
Though Porter does purchase and use the above Model 29, the [[Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_27_/_28|Smith & Wesson Model 28]] is seen standing in for it in some places, sometimes being switched in the same scenes. It can be differentiated from the Model 29 due to it's tapered barrel and (if examined closely) shorter .357 cylinder in some shots. The gun can be identified specifically as a Model 28 'Highway Patrolman' rather than the almost identical, but much finer Model 27 due to it's slightly duller finish and smooth, non-checkered topstrap. | |||
[[Image:S&WModel28RubberCombatGrips.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Smith & Wesson Model 28 'Highway Patrolman' with 4" barrel and Rubber Combat Grips - .357 Magnum.]] | |||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-9.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter holds his Model 28 on the Detectives before handing it to them outside the "Outfit's" building. The smaller-diameter .357 barrel is quite clear in this shot.]] | |||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-11.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter fires what is now the [[Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_27_/_28|S&W Model 28]] in an akimbo stance along with a [[Beretta 92FS]] at the Triads, unloading about 13 rounds from his six shot revolver.]] | |||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close up of the guns firing, with excellent shots of both the gun's markings and the distinctive tapered barrel.]] | |||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Porter holds the Model 28 on Pearl ([[Lucy Liu]]). A close inspection here will note both the tapered barrel, the slight cylinder gap, and the smooth topstrap.]] | |||
[[Image:PaybackS&W27-16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The gun clicks empty. That's the inconvenience of movie guns, they can fire off a ridiculous amount of ammunition but never have a bullet left when you really need it. The smooth, non-checkered topstrap (Similar to the aforementioned Model 29) is also more clearly visible in this shot.]] | |||
==Colt Python== | ==Colt Python== | ||
Revision as of 01:03, 14 July 2011
Payback is a 1999 action film starring Mel Gibson as a thief who is double-crossed by his partner and his attempt to get the money owed him back. Unsatisfied with the original tone of the film as well as the ending, Gibson decided to reshoot several sequences and add several characters to the film before its release in 1999. In 2006, director Brian Helgeland was allowed to go back and restore his original vision for the film. It was released on DVD as "Payback Straight Up: The Director's Cut". Most of the screencaps for this page are from the Director's Cut.
The following guns were used in the film Payback:
Smith & Wesson Model 29
Porter (Mel Gibson) uses a blued Smith & Wesson Model 29 4" with S&W factory combat grips for the majority of the film after buying it in a pawn shop. The weapon here can be identified as an actual large-caliber .44 Magnum N-frame Model 29 due to the heavy non-tapered 'bull' barrel and full-length cylinder (The cylinder fills the entire gap). A different .357 Magnum N-frame S&W revolver was also used in some parts, noted in the Model 28 section below, but the Model 29 was also definitely used. See the discussion page for comparisons and additional information.
Smith & Wesson Model 28
Though Porter does purchase and use the above Model 29, the Smith & Wesson Model 28 is seen standing in for it in some places, sometimes being switched in the same scenes. It can be differentiated from the Model 29 due to it's tapered barrel and (if examined closely) shorter .357 cylinder in some shots. The gun can be identified specifically as a Model 28 'Highway Patrolman' rather than the almost identical, but much finer Model 27 due to it's slightly duller finish and smooth, non-checkered topstrap.
Colt Python
Lynn Porter (Deborah Kara Unger) uses a stainless Colt Python to shoot Porter (Mel Gibson) in the back after she and Val Resnick (Gregg Henry) decide to take the Triad's stolen money for themselves.
Beretta 92FS
Val Resnick (Gregg Henry) carries a Beretta 92FS pistol as his main sidearm, which Porter (Mel Gibson) takes from him and uses for the rest of the film.
Walther PP
Val Resnick (Gregg Henry) carries a Walther PP as secondary sidearm.
Smith & Wesson Model 49 "Bodyguard"
Val Resnick (Gregg Henry) carries Smith & Wesson Model 49 "Bodyguard" in an ankle holster.
Walther PPK
Pearl (Lucy Liu) carries a blued Walther PPK with pearl grips (possibly in relation with her name) as her sidearm.
SIG-Sauer P220
The Triad van driver (Jeff Imada) is seen firing a SIG-Sauer P220 through the floor of the van at Porter (Mel Gibson). Earlier in the film Porter is seen taking a SIG P220 from one of Carter's (William Devane) guards after knocking him out with a roll of pennies and then using it to kill him. They are noted as the P220 model by their lack of double stack bulges on the frame, and their .45-sized muzzle diameters.
M3 "Grease Gun"
When Porter (Mel Gibson) is attacked by the Triad gang members, two of them are seen firing M3 "Grease Guns". They clearly have external charging handles, helping to identify them as older M3s, not M3A1s.
Glock 17
One of the Triad gang members is seen using a 2nd Generation Glock 17 to shoot at Porter (Mel Gibson) in the taxi cab. Later Porter is seen disposing of two Glock 17s after killing two thugs in the restroom.
- The two Glocks Porter takes from the restroom thugs appear to be first generation models due to their lack of ridges in the grips.
Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel
Porter (Mel Gibson) tries to draw a Smith & Wesson Model 10 Heavy Barrel with a 3" barrel (or maybe a Smith & Wesson Model 13) when he shot in the back by Lynn (Deborah Kara Unger).
Heckler & Koch VP70
A Triad gang member fires a Heckler & Koch VP70 at Porter (Mel Gibson) in the taxi cab.
Remington 870 Sawed-Off
Radioman (Kwame Amoaku) tries to save Arthur Stegman (David Paymer) with a sawed-off Remington 870 shotgun before being mowed down by the Triads. Based on the sling swivel on the pistol grip, it is assumed this gun was professional sawed down by a film armorer.
Smith & Wesson 669
Lynn's (Deborah Kara Unger) heroin dealer (Freddy Rodriguez) carries a Smith & Wesson 669 with bobbed hammer installed, which Porter (Mel Gibson) disarms him of and holds on him as he interrogates him.
Heckler & Koch P7
One of Carter's (William Devane) bodyguards is seen armed with a Heckler & Koch P7M8 before Porter (Mel Gibson) knocks him out with a roll of pennies. An Outfit member is seen firing one at Porter during the final firefight as well.
Ruger Mark II
An Outfit thug at the train station opens his lunchbox to reveal Ruger Mark II pistol with an integral suppressor.
Walther P38
Inside the pawn shop, a Walther P38 is seen hanging on the pistol rack, along with several unknown revolvers.
