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[[Image:The-baader-meinhof-complex.jpg|thumb|right|350px|''The Baader Meinhof Complex'' (2008) - U.K. DVD cover]] | [[Image:The-baader-meinhof-complex.jpg|thumb|right|350px|''The Baader Meinhof Complex'' (2008) - U.K. DVD cover]] | ||
'''The Baader Meinhof Complex''' is a 2008 German film which depicts the history of Germany's radical leftist Red Army Faction (otherwise known as the Baader Meinhof Gang) in the 1960s and 1970s. It was nominated in the 2009 Academy Awards for Best Foreign Language Film. Bernd Eichinger, the film's producer and screenwriter, had previously worked on ''[[Downfall (Der Untergang)]]'', and two of the leading actors from that movie, [[Bruno Ganz]] and [[Alexandra Maria Lara]], have supporting roles in this film. | '''The Baader Meinhof Complex''' is a 2008 German film which depicts the history of Germany's radical leftist [[Red Army Faction]] (otherwise known as the Baader Meinhof Gang) in the 1960s and 1970s. It was nominated in the 2009 [[Academy Awards]] for Best Foreign Language Film. Bernd Eichinger, the film's producer and screenwriter, had previously worked on ''[[Downfall (Der Untergang)]]'', and two of the leading actors from that movie, [[Bruno Ganz]] and [[Alexandra Maria Lara]], have supporting roles in this film. | ||
'''The following guns were seen in this film:''' | '''The following guns were seen in this film:''' | ||
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Most of the Federal German police officers in the film are armed with [[Walther PP Pistol Series#Walther PP|Walther PP]] pistols, including the officer who shoots and kills Benno Ohnesorg ([[Martin Glade]]) during the demonstration against the Shah of Iran at the Berlin Opera. After being arrested and taken to interrogation, a PP is dropped in front of Holger Meins ([[Stipe Erceg]]), and the officers dare him to fight his way out with it. | Most of the Federal German police officers in the film are armed with [[Walther PP Pistol Series#Walther PP|Walther PP]] pistols, including the officer who shoots and kills Benno Ohnesorg ([[Martin Glade]]) during the demonstration against the Shah of Iran at the Berlin Opera. After being arrested and taken to interrogation, a PP is dropped in front of Holger Meins ([[Stipe Erceg]]), and the officers dare him to fight his way out with it. | ||
[[Image:Walther | [[Image:Walther PP.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Walther PP - .380 ACP.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-527115.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A police officer shoots Benno Ohnesorg early in the film with a Walther PP.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-527115.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A police officer shoots Benno Ohnesorg early in the film with a Walther PP.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-572973.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another police officer fires upon Petra Schelm with a PP.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-572973.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another police officer fires upon Petra Schelm with a PP.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31154.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer drops his Walther PP in front of Holger Meins after he has been arrested.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-31154.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An officer drops his Walther PP in front of Holger Meins after he has been arrested.]] | ||
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==Colt Detective Special== | ==Colt Detective Special== | ||
During the depiction of the attempted killing of Rudi Dutschke ([[Sebastian Blomberg]]) | During the depiction of the attempted killing of Rudi Dutschke ([[Sebastian Blomberg]]), the would-be killer uses a small revolver which appears to be a [[Colt Detective Special]]. It appears this revolver is also used by some of the RAF members. | ||
[[Image:Colt_Detective_Special.jpg|thumb|none|500px| | [[Image:Colt_Detective_Special.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-533266.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rudi Dutscke's attempted killer fires his revolver (a Colt Detective Special) at him.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-533266.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Rudi Dutscke's attempted killer fires his revolver (a Colt Detective Special) at him.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-534184.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The killer then fires the Detective Special at pursuing police officers.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-534184.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The killer then fires the Detective Special at pursuing police officers.]] | ||
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It seems to be some kind of Weihrauch, a german manufactured revolver, cheap and popular in those days. | It seems to be some kind of Weihrauch, a german manufactured revolver, cheap and popular in those days. | ||
== SIG P210 == | == SIG P210 == | ||
Several of the RAF terrorists are shown to use [[SIG P210]] pistols throughout the movie. Andreas Baader ([[Moritz Bleibtreu]] | Several of the RAF terrorists are shown to use [[SIG P210]] pistols throughout the movie. Andreas Baader ([[Moritz Bleibtreu]] uses one in the shootout with the police which leads to his arrest. | ||
[[Image:Sig P210.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG P210 - 9 mm]] | [[Image:Sig P210.jpg|thumb|none|300px|SIG P210 - 9 mm]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andreas Baader fires at the police with his SIG P210.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-25097.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Andreas Baader fires at the police with his SIG P210.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-32769.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A pair of SIG P210s sit next to Ulrike Meinhof's typewriter when the police raid her dwelling.]] | |||
I think the bottom handgun is a 1911- S&Wshooter | |||
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==Browning Hi-Power== | ==Browning Hi-Power== | ||
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West German Federal police can be seen throughout the movie using [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] submachine guns, all with the old-style straight "waffle" magazines. When Ulrike Meinhof ([[Martina Gedeck]]) is arrested, the police find several MP5A3s and magazines in her dwelling. In real life, the MP5A3 was known as a favorite weapon of RAF members in the 1970s (their flag featured an MP5A3 emblazoned over the Red Star), but for some reason, none of the terrorists in this film are ever seen actually firing MP5s in any of the assassinations or bank robberies depicted. | West German Federal police can be seen throughout the movie using [[Heckler & Koch MP5A3]] submachine guns, all with the old-style straight "waffle" magazines. When Ulrike Meinhof ([[Martina Gedeck]]) is arrested, the police find several MP5A3s and magazines in her dwelling. In real life, the MP5A3 was known as a favorite weapon of RAF members in the 1970s (their flag featured an MP5A3 emblazoned over the Red Star), but for some reason, none of the terrorists in this film are ever seen actually firing MP5s in any of the assassinations or bank robberies depicted. | ||
[[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with older style "slimline" fore end - 9x19mm.]] | [[Image:H&KMP5A3slimforearm.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with older style "slimline" fore end - 9x19mm.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22398.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A German police officer wields an H&K MP5A3 on a news broadcast.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-22398.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A German police officer wields an H&K MP5A3 on a news broadcast.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22973.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the MP5's muzzle.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-22973.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A close-up of the MP5's muzzle.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-32892.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German police find several MP5A3s and ammo in Ulrike Meinhof's place | [[Image:Vlcsnap-32892.jpg|thumb|none|600px|German police find several MP5A3s and ammo in Ulrike Meinhof's place.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-90770.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Hanns-Martin Schleyer's bodyguards tries to pull out his MP5A3 (foreground), but Ruth (background) mows him down with an HK33.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-90770.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Hanns-Martin Schleyer's bodyguards tries to pull out his MP5A3 (foreground), but Ruth (background) mows him down with an HK33.]] | ||
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==Adler Jager AP74== | ==Adler Jager AP74== | ||
During the | During the bombing of the U.S. military barracks at Frankfurt in 1972, the U.S. Army MPs guarding the base are armed, curiously, with what appear to be [[M16 rifle series#.22 caliber Clones of the M16 Rifle|Adler-Jager AP-74]] .22-caliber clones of the [[M16]], standing in for the [[M16A1]] rifles that would have been standard-issue at the time. | ||
[[Image:AdlerJagerAP74.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Adler-Jager AP74 rifle - .22 LR. Note the sharply angled three prong flash hider and the forward assist, and the small .22 LR magazine that protrudes under the 'fake' 20 round magazine.]] | [[Image:AdlerJagerAP74.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Adler-Jager AP74 rifle - .22 LR. Note the sharply angled three prong flash hider and the forward assist, and the small .22 LR magazine that protrudes under the 'fake' 20 round magazine.]] | ||
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==Heckler & Koch G3A3== | ==Heckler & Koch G3A3== | ||
A [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] rifle with a scope is used by the German | A [[Heckler & Koch G3|Heckler & Koch G3A3]] rifle with a scope is used by the German police sniper who wounds Andreas Baader ([[Moritz Bleibtreu]]) when he is arrested in 1972. | ||
[[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Heckler & Koch G3A3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | [[Image:HKG3A3.jpg|thumb|350px|none|Heckler & Koch G3A3 - 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-498924.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the terrorists is handed a Skorpion Vz 61.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-498924.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of the terrorists is handed a Skorpion Vz 61.]] | ||
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== Carl | == Carl Gustaf M/45B == | ||
The Swedish police who take part in the siege at Stockholm are all armed with [[Carl Gustaf M/45|Carl Gustaf M/45B]] submachine guns. | The Swedish police who take part in the siege at Stockholm are all armed with [[Carl Gustaf M/45|Carl Gustaf M/45B]] submachine guns. | ||
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-46194.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A police officer charges up the stairs of the embassy with a Carl Gustaf M/45.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-46194.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A police officer charges up the stairs of the embassy with a Carl Gustaf M/45.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-46540.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Swedish police holds their M/45s on a hostage-taker in the embassy.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-46540.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Swedish police holds their M/45s on a hostage-taker in the embassy.]] | ||
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==Luger P08== | ==Luger P08== | ||
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The next-generation RAF members can be seen using [[Heckler & Koch HK33]]-series assault rifles on several occasions. One of the two motorcycle gunmen who assassinates Siegfried Buback ([[Gerald Alexander Held]]) uses an HK33 with a chopped barrel and a stockless butt cap in lieu of a fixed or telescoping stock. Later, when the RAF kidnaps Hanns-Martin Schleyer ([[Bernd Stegemann]]), both Ruth ([[Sandra Borgmann]]) and Willy Peter Stoll ([[Hannes Wegener]]) use HK33 variants. Ruth's is an HK33A2 (fixed stock) with a chopped barrel and two magazines "jungle-taped" together, while Willy's is the collapsible-stock HK33A3 (also with a chopped barrel). | The next-generation RAF members can be seen using [[Heckler & Koch HK33]]-series assault rifles on several occasions. One of the two motorcycle gunmen who assassinates Siegfried Buback ([[Gerald Alexander Held]]) uses an HK33 with a chopped barrel and a stockless butt cap in lieu of a fixed or telescoping stock. Later, when the RAF kidnaps Hanns-Martin Schleyer ([[Bernd Stegemann]]), both Ruth ([[Sandra Borgmann]]) and Willy Peter Stoll ([[Hannes Wegener]]) use HK33 variants. Ruth's is an HK33A2 (fixed stock) with a chopped barrel and two magazines "jungle-taped" together, while Willy's is the collapsible-stock HK33A3 (also with a chopped barrel). | ||
[[Image:HK33w25rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK33A2 with factory 25rd Magazine - 5.56x45mm]] | [[Image:HK33w25rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Heckler & Koch HK33A2 with factory 25rd Magazine - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
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==Mini Ero== | ==Mini Ero== | ||
During the kidnapping of Hanns-Martin Schleyer, Peter-Jürgen Boock ([[Vinzenz Kiefer]]) is armed with a Croatian [[Uzi#Mini Ero|Mini Ero]] submachine gun, yet another weapon which did not exist at the time in which the scene takes place | During the kidnapping of Hanns-Martin Schleyer, Peter-Jürgen Boock ([[Vinzenz Kiefer]]) is armed with a Croatian [[Uzi#Mini Ero|Mini Ero]] submachine gun, yet another weapon which did not exist during at the time in which the scene takes place. | ||
[[Image:Mini-Ero.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Ero 9x19mm]] | [[Image:Mini-Ero.jpg|thumb|none|300px|Mini Ero 9x19mm]] | ||
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==Mossberg 500== | ==Mossberg 500== | ||
Christian Klar ([[Daniel Lommatzsch]]) uses a [[Mossberg 500]] with a sawed down 16" barrel and open blade sights during the kidnapping of Hanns-Martin Schleyer. | Christian Klar ([[Daniel Lommatzsch]]) uses a [[Mossberg 500]] with a sawed down 16" barrel and open blade sights during the kidnapping of Hanns-Martin Schleyer. | ||
[[Image:Mossberg500.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Mossberg 500 - 12 Gauge.]] | |||
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[[Image:Vlcsnap-89733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Christian Klar fires his Mossberg 500 shotgun.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-89733.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Christian Klar fires his Mossberg 500 shotgun.]] | ||
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Revision as of 22:56, 24 April 2011
The Baader Meinhof Complex is a 2008 German film which depicts the history of Germany's radical leftist Red Army Faction (otherwise known as the Baader Meinhof Gang) in the 1960s and 1970s. It was nominated in the 2009 Academy Awards for Best Foreign Language Film. Bernd Eichinger, the film's producer and screenwriter, had previously worked on Downfall (Der Untergang), and two of the leading actors from that movie, Bruno Ganz and Alexandra Maria Lara, have supporting roles in this film.
The following guns were seen in this film:
Walther PP
Most of the Federal German police officers in the film are armed with Walther PP pistols, including the officer who shoots and kills Benno Ohnesorg (Martin Glade) during the demonstration against the Shah of Iran at the Berlin Opera. After being arrested and taken to interrogation, a PP is dropped in front of Holger Meins (Stipe Erceg), and the officers dare him to fight his way out with it.
Colt Detective Special
During the depiction of the attempted killing of Rudi Dutschke (Sebastian Blomberg), the would-be killer uses a small revolver which appears to be a Colt Detective Special. It appears this revolver is also used by some of the RAF members.
It seems to be some kind of Weihrauch, a german manufactured revolver, cheap and popular in those days.
SIG P210
Several of the RAF terrorists are shown to use SIG P210 pistols throughout the movie. Andreas Baader (Moritz Bleibtreu uses one in the shootout with the police which leads to his arrest.
I think the bottom handgun is a 1911- S&Wshooter
Browning Hi-Power
A number of Browning Hi-Power pistols are also used by RAF members.
ERMA-Werke Model E M1
When the RAF is freeing Andreas Baader (Moritz Bleibtreu) from police custody while he's being interviewed by Ulrike Meinhof (Martina Gedeck), Gudrun Ensslin (Johanna Wokalek) uses an ERMA-Werke Model E M1 .22 LR self-loading rimfire rifle with a sawed-off barrel and stock
AKM
All of the RAF members are seen training on AKM assault rifles while at a camp in Jordan with PLO guerrillas during the early-1970s.
Norinco Type 56-1
While the RAF are procuring arms for their first bank robbery, they can be seen buying Chinese Norinco Type 56-1 assault rifles, but these weapons are never used on-screen..
Heckler & Koch MP5A3
West German Federal police can be seen throughout the movie using Heckler & Koch MP5A3 submachine guns, all with the old-style straight "waffle" magazines. When Ulrike Meinhof (Martina Gedeck) is arrested, the police find several MP5A3s and magazines in her dwelling. In real life, the MP5A3 was known as a favorite weapon of RAF members in the 1970s (their flag featured an MP5A3 emblazoned over the Red Star), but for some reason, none of the terrorists in this film are ever seen actually firing MP5s in any of the assassinations or bank robberies depicted.
FEG P9R
When Petra Schelm (Alexandra Maria Lara) is fleeing the police after getting caught at a checkpoint, she uses an FEG P9R pistol to fire at the officers. The P9R is a Hungarian-made, double-action version of the Browning Hi-Power; its use in the film is an anachronism (Petra Schelm was killed in 1971; the P9R was introduced about 10 years later).
Adler Jager AP74
During the bombing of the U.S. military barracks at Frankfurt in 1972, the U.S. Army MPs guarding the base are armed, curiously, with what appear to be Adler-Jager AP-74 .22-caliber clones of the M16, standing in for the M16A1 rifles that would have been standard-issue at the time.
Heckler & Koch G3A3
A Heckler & Koch G3A3 rifle with a scope is used by the German police sniper who wounds Andreas Baader (Moritz Bleibtreu) when he is arrested in 1972.
Uzi
Full-size Uzi submachine guns are used by most of the RAF terrorists who take part in the siege at the West German embassy in Stockholm.
Skorpion SA Vz 61
When the RAF gunmen who seize the West German embassy in Stockholm are arming up, one of them is given a Skorpion SA Vz 61 machine pistol, but it is not seen in use during the siege itself (only Uzis are used).
Carl Gustaf M/45B
The Swedish police who take part in the siege at Stockholm are all armed with Carl Gustaf M/45B submachine guns.
Luger P08
A Luger P08 can be seen when next-generation RAF terrorists are arming up to assassinate Siegfried Buback (Gerald Alexander Held).
Heckler & Koch HK33
The next-generation RAF members can be seen using Heckler & Koch HK33-series assault rifles on several occasions. One of the two motorcycle gunmen who assassinates Siegfried Buback (Gerald Alexander Held) uses an HK33 with a chopped barrel and a stockless butt cap in lieu of a fixed or telescoping stock. Later, when the RAF kidnaps Hanns-Martin Schleyer (Bernd Stegemann), both Ruth (Sandra Borgmann) and Willy Peter Stoll (Hannes Wegener) use HK33 variants. Ruth's is an HK33A2 (fixed stock) with a chopped barrel and two magazines "jungle-taped" together, while Willy's is the collapsible-stock HK33A3 (also with a chopped barrel).
Mini Ero
During the kidnapping of Hanns-Martin Schleyer, Peter-Jürgen Boock (Vinzenz Kiefer) is armed with a Croatian Mini Ero submachine gun, yet another weapon which did not exist during at the time in which the scene takes place.
Mossberg 500
Christian Klar (Daniel Lommatzsch) uses a Mossberg 500 with a sawed down 16" barrel and open blade sights during the kidnapping of Hanns-Martin Schleyer.
