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I was watching this the other day and Michael Gross seems to have a strange way of handling the M16 he fires when they are target practicing. I know that they were supposed to be ex military. Was this a taught method on how to fire an M16 or some sort of creative choice on behalf of either the actor or the director? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 22:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | I was watching this the other day and Michael Gross seems to have a strange way of handling the M16 he fires when they are target practicing. I know that they were supposed to be ex military. Was this a taught method on how to fire an M16 or some sort of creative choice on behalf of either the actor or the director? --[[User:Cool-breeze|cool-breeze]] 22:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC) | ||
== Model 10 vs Model 13 == | |||
Actually, Mirelles and the other agents with revolvers could possibly have had four inch [[Smith & Wesson Model 13]] guns in .357 Magnum. FBI agents in those days were issued the Model 13 with a three inch barrel and a round butt frame. This gun was no longer issued after the Miami shootout on which this movie is based. The FBI felt that a more powerful cartridge in an automatic pistol platform would be more suitable in these situations. Subsequently, the 10mm S&W cartridge was introduced in an automatic pistol built to chamber it. Soon after, the .40 Smith & Wesson cartridge was introduced, and has since become the most popular law enforcement cartridge in history. The guns in the film look like a four inch barrel, and the Model 13 looks like a Model 10 and while not factually accurate in barrel length, this gun COULD have been the one used in the film. | |||
In the FOIA Report on the FBI Website, it states that Mirelles was cleared to carry several revolvers, but he USED a Smith & Wesson Model 686 during the Miami Shootout. Link: http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/shooting.htm |
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Nice Work
Nice work, Predator20. Your captures are far better than the ones I had. --Markit 03:02, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, I was going to send you a message about replacing your caps. You sound okay with it, so that's good. I'm going to read up more on the actual shootout and add as much info I can about it. From what I read and saw from the film, it was close. -Predator20 03:14, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- My Criminal Justice professor has a published copy of the complete evidence package with all the forensics and agent statements. It's an interesting read to say the least. Mercer 21:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- I've actually been studying this shootout lately, came across it when reading about the North Hollywood shootout. A very interesting and eye opening look into how a planned event can go wrong, and the effectiveness of the .38 and 9mm. M14fanboy
M16 firing method
I was watching this the other day and Michael Gross seems to have a strange way of handling the M16 he fires when they are target practicing. I know that they were supposed to be ex military. Was this a taught method on how to fire an M16 or some sort of creative choice on behalf of either the actor or the director? --cool-breeze 22:37, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
Model 10 vs Model 13
Actually, Mirelles and the other agents with revolvers could possibly have had four inch Smith & Wesson Model 13 guns in .357 Magnum. FBI agents in those days were issued the Model 13 with a three inch barrel and a round butt frame. This gun was no longer issued after the Miami shootout on which this movie is based. The FBI felt that a more powerful cartridge in an automatic pistol platform would be more suitable in these situations. Subsequently, the 10mm S&W cartridge was introduced in an automatic pistol built to chamber it. Soon after, the .40 Smith & Wesson cartridge was introduced, and has since become the most popular law enforcement cartridge in history. The guns in the film look like a four inch barrel, and the Model 13 looks like a Model 10 and while not factually accurate in barrel length, this gun COULD have been the one used in the film. In the FOIA Report on the FBI Website, it states that Mirelles was cleared to carry several revolvers, but he USED a Smith & Wesson Model 686 during the Miami Shootout. Link: http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/shooting.htm