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In many scenes M16 (AR-15/SP1) rifle is seen. Some of them appear to be genuine civilian AR-15/SP1s and aren't seen fired full-auto. Instead, M16A1s seem to be used to depict full-auto fire. That is, until the Grenada sequence, when the Recon platoon's weapons are both M16A1s and M16 rifles, possibly AR-15/SP1's converted to fire full-auto, perhaps do to a lack of enough M16A1 rifles for those scenes. | In many scenes M16 (AR-15/SP1) rifle is seen. Some of them appear to be genuine civilian AR-15/SP1s and aren't seen fired full-auto. Instead, M16A1s seem to be used to depict full-auto fire. That is, until the Grenada sequence, when the Recon platoon's weapons are both M16A1s and M16 rifles, possibly AR-15/SP1's converted to fire full-auto, perhaps do to a lack of enough M16A1 rifles for those scenes. | ||
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16 (AR-15/SP1) 5.56x45mm]] | [[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16 (AR-15/SP1) 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[Image:HRM16-1.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM16-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Recon Marines in training fire their M16s down range, although they are likely AR-15/SP1s, as they aren't seen firing full-auto until in Grenada, when more full-auto guns were required. One marine fires his weapon full-auto during the rifle training, but it is clearly an M16A1.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM16-2.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM16-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Gunnery Sgt. Highway ([[Clint Eastwood]]) shows his recruit his AR-15/SP1 is not "Fuckin' fucked up."]] | ||
[[Image:HRM16-3.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM16-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Pvt. "Stitch" Jones ([[Mario Van Peebles]]) with his AR-15/SP1 while Highway hassles him over pawning his kevlar helmet.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM16-4.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM16-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Highway with his AR-15/SP1 in Grenada. This one appears to be converted to full-auto or it could be an actual M16 fitted with an A1 birdcage muzzle break, but it's a bit less likely.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM16-5.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM16-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt. Ring with the AR-15/SP1 in Grenada, his also featuring full-auto fire, making it a possible M16 with a birdcage muzzle break as well.]] | ||
==[[M16A1]]== | ==[[M16A1]]== | ||
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[[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 30 round magazine - 5.56mm]] | [[Image:M16A1w30rdMag.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M16A1 with 30 round magazine - 5.56mm]] | ||
[[Image:HRM16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM16A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Highway pulls a Marine's M16A1 out of his face when he complains about his weapon malfunctioning, nearly getting his head blown off. The weapon empties a full magazine, almost killing the other men on the firing range.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM16A1-2.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM16A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Marine in Grenada with his M16A1.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM16A1-3.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM16A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lance Corporal Fragatti, nicknamed "Fagetti", empties a mag from his M16A1 into a skeleton model from a classroom in Grenada.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM16A1-4.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM16A1-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. "Stitch" Jones, now armed with an M16A1 in Grenada.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM16A1-5.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM16A1-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cpl. Ring is seen using an M16A1 after taking the hill, a possible continuity error, since he was using an AR-15/SP1 rifle earlier.]] | ||
==[[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Fake M203 Grenade Launcher]]== | ==[[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Fake M203 Grenade Launcher]]== | ||
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:''6) The Barrel is slightly longer than both the standard M203 and Cobray CM203 (though all types have offered 'long barreled versions' for sale). | :''6) The Barrel is slightly longer than both the standard M203 and Cobray CM203 (though all types have offered 'long barreled versions' for sale). | ||
[[Image:M16A1wNewCM203.jpg |thumb|none|400px|A commercial [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Fake M203 Grenade Launcher]] fitted to M16A1 - this one is a late model Cobray CM203 - 37mm]] | [[Image:M16A1wNewCM203.jpg |thumb|none|400px|A commercial [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Fake M203 Grenade Launcher]] fitted to M16A1 - this one is a late model Cobray CM203 - 37mm]] | ||
[[Image:HRM203-1.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM203-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Recon Marine fires his [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Fake M203 Grenade Launcher]] at Cubans in Grenada.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM203-2.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM203-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The same Marine orders his men up armed with his M16(AR-15/SP1) with the [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Fake M203 Grenade Launcher]].]] | ||
[[Image:HRM203-3.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM203-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Marine fires his M16(AR-15/SP1) with underslung [[Cobray 37mm Launcher|Fake M203 Grenade Launcher]].]] | ||
==[[M60|M60E1]]== | ==[[M60|M60E1]]== | ||
Used by Recon Marine Private Johansson "The Swede", Used inside an armored vehicle by the Cubans, and seen on the helicopter that picks up the Recon men after the operation is complete. | Used by Recon Marine Private Johansson "The Swede", Used inside an armored vehicle by the Cubans, and seen on the helicopter that picks up the Recon men after the operation is complete. | ||
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60E1 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]] | [[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M60E1 machine gun 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[Image:HRM60-1.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM60-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Johansson "The Swede" gives supporting fire with his M60E1.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM60-2.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM60-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"The Swede" walks with the rest of his men to the hill, somehow comfortably holding the 23lb M60E1 with one hand. It could be a light weight polyurethane cast of the real gun or perhaps he really is strong enough to hold it like that.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM60-4.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM60-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"The Swede" climbs the hill with his M60E1.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM60-3.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM60-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Cuban soldier fires an M60E1 out of the armored vehicle.]] | ||
[[Image:HRM60-5.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRM60-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Helo that picks up the Recon Marines is fitted with a door mounted M60E1.]] | ||
==[[AK-47#AKM|AKM]]== | ==[[AK-47#AKM|AKM]]== | ||
Gunnery Sgt. Tom Highway ([[Clint Eastwood]]) uses an AKM to teach his recruits in basic training, by shooting at them so they know the distinct sound of an AK-47 being fired at them. Several Cuban soldiers use them as well, just as Highway said they would. | Gunnery Sgt. Tom Highway ([[Clint Eastwood]]) uses an AKM to teach his recruits in basic training, by shooting at them so they know the distinct sound of an AK-47 being fired at them. Several Cuban soldiers use them as well, just as Highway said they would. | ||
[[Image:IMG_7046.JPG|thumb|none|400px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm]] | [[Image:IMG_7046.JPG|thumb|none|400px|AKM, Stamped Steel Receiver w/ slant muzzle brake 7.62x39mm]] | ||
[[Image:HRAKM-1.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRAKM-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|"This is the AK-47 assault rifle, the prefered weapon of your enemy, and it makes a distinct sound when fired at you, so remember it.".]] | ||
[[Image:HRAKM-2.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRAKM-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Highway fires his AKM at the recruits as they crawl through barbed wire trenches. Clint clearly knows how to fire this rifle, to add.]] | ||
[[Image:HRAKM-4.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRAKM-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Cuban soldiers fire their AKM rifles at the Recon Marines using the armored vehicle as cover (note that the vehicle is actually an American-made Cadillac-Gage Commando, apparently meant to be a BRDM).]] | ||
==[[AK-47|Norinco Type 56]]== | ==[[AK-47|Norinco Type 56]]== | ||
What looks like a Norinco Type 56 is seen lying next to a dead Cuban soldier. This is assumed based on the smooth reciever and front grips. The front sights aren't seen so it is hard to be sure. | What looks like a Norinco Type 56 is seen lying next to a dead Cuban soldier. This is assumed based on the smooth reciever and front grips. The front sights aren't seen so it is hard to be sure. | ||
[[Image:HRAKM-3.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRAKM-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Norinco Type 56 lay next to a dead Cuban soldier.]] | ||
==[[DShK heavy machine gun|DShK]]== | ==[[DShK heavy machine gun|DShK]]== | ||
A Cuban soldier is seen firing a DShK heavy machine gun at the Recon Marines. It is most likely an M60D dressed up to look like a DShK, similair to the guns in [[Red Dawn]], as DShKs weren't too common at the time, but it isn't seen close enough to tell. The belt feeding into it does look considerably small though. | A Cuban soldier is seen firing a DShK heavy machine gun at the Recon Marines. It is most likely an M60D dressed up to look like a DShK, similair to the guns in [[Red Dawn]], as DShKs weren't too common at the time, but it isn't seen close enough to tell. The belt feeding into it does look considerably small though. | ||
[[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:DSHK.jpg|thumb|none|400px|DShK machine gun 12.7x109mm]] | ||
[[Image:HRDShK-1.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRDShK-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Cuban soldier fires a DShK at the Recon Marines.]] | ||
[[Image:HRDShK-2.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HRDShK-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A closer shot of the Cuban firing the DShK.]] | ||
Revision as of 20:11, 23 September 2008
The following guns are used in the film Heartbreak Ridge
M16 (AR-15/SP1)
In many scenes M16 (AR-15/SP1) rifle is seen. Some of them appear to be genuine civilian AR-15/SP1s and aren't seen fired full-auto. Instead, M16A1s seem to be used to depict full-auto fire. That is, until the Grenada sequence, when the Recon platoon's weapons are both M16A1s and M16 rifles, possibly AR-15/SP1's converted to fire full-auto, perhaps do to a lack of enough M16A1 rifles for those scenes.
M16A1
Seen in the hands of several Recon Marines, used when a fully-automatic weapon is required early in the film, until Grenada when possibly all the weapons were converted to full-auto fire, perhaps do to a lack of M16A1s. They seem to have either older M16 lowers or possible civilian AR-15 lowers modified to fire full-auto, as noted by the lack of magazine fencing.
Fake M203 Grenade Launcher
One of the Marines has an AR-15/SP1 (or possible M16) fitted with an underslung Fake M203 Grenade Launcher made to take the place of the M203 40mm launcher. Upon close inspection, this is one of the first 'fake' M203 launchers that were made by Special Effect Unlimited, Ltd and later used by Stembridge Guns and other Hollywood Rental houses. It is not a Cobray/SWD or any other commercially available 37mm Flare Launcher. The entire launcher was custom fabricated out of Aluminum and designed to fire a special pyrotechnic charge. It is the same 'fake M203' used by Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie Predator. The visual differences between this custom M203 versus the 37mm Flare Launchers is:
- 1) Larger receiver with no cocking handle or safety.
- 2) There is a lever on the left side which opens the barrel for loading, both the 37mm & Real M203 unlock the barrel with a lever near the top of the mounting block.
- 3) The Trigger guard is larger and more square with no second safety trigger.
- 4) The 'ribbed' foregrip of the M203 & the Cobray 37mm Launchers utilize the real plastic sleeves used by Colt, this one has the 'ribbing' actually molded into the metal of the barrel. It's one entire piece, painted black and noticeable 'smoother' with the ribs spread farther apart. If you see wear and tear on the ribbed foregrip and there is metal underneath the paint, it's one of these fake M203s. The real or 37mm versions are plastic.
- 5) This is actually an 39mm tube not the smaller 37mm diameter flare launchers. But it is still not subject to the same restrictions as the M203 because of it's custom design. It can't take any standard breach load munitions of any kind and it's a smooth bore barrel.
- 6) The Barrel is slightly longer than both the standard M203 and Cobray CM203 (though all types have offered 'long barreled versions' for sale).
M60E1
Used by Recon Marine Private Johansson "The Swede", Used inside an armored vehicle by the Cubans, and seen on the helicopter that picks up the Recon men after the operation is complete.
AKM
Gunnery Sgt. Tom Highway (Clint Eastwood) uses an AKM to teach his recruits in basic training, by shooting at them so they know the distinct sound of an AK-47 being fired at them. Several Cuban soldiers use them as well, just as Highway said they would.
Norinco Type 56
What looks like a Norinco Type 56 is seen lying next to a dead Cuban soldier. This is assumed based on the smooth reciever and front grips. The front sights aren't seen so it is hard to be sure.
DShK
A Cuban soldier is seen firing a DShK heavy machine gun at the Recon Marines. It is most likely an M60D dressed up to look like a DShK, similair to the guns in Red Dawn, as DShKs weren't too common at the time, but it isn't seen close enough to tell. The belt feeding into it does look considerably small though.
