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This is a very simplified response as there are many exceptions to this general rule. But for the most part, the info below applies. I won't include special models such as TSW, LadySmith, NL etc as these are mostly cosmetic and sometimes functional enhancements. | This is a very simplified response as there are many exceptions to this general rule. But for the most part, the info below applies. I won't include special models such as TSW, LadySmith, NL etc as these are mostly cosmetic and sometimes functional enhancements. | ||
For 3rd generation S&W semi-autos, the first two numbers designate the caliber; and in the case of 39XX and 69XX, caliber | For 3rd generation S&W semi-autos, the first two numbers designate the caliber; and in the case of 39XX and 69XX, caliber, magazine stack and size) for the series. For example, 59XX would be 9mm, 40XX would be 40 S&W, 45XX would be the 45ACP series, 39XX would be the single stack 9mm guns and 69XX the double stack compact guns. | ||
The third number designates the design size for all but the 9mm guns. It can also denote features. The numbers are 0 for full size, 1 for compact, 4 for double action only with no safety/decocker and a bobbed hammer on full size guns, 5 for double action only with no safety/decocker and a bobbed hammer on compacts. | The third number designates the design size for all but the 9mm guns. It can also denote features. The numbers are 0 for full size, 1 for compact, 4 for double action only with no safety/decocker and a bobbed hammer on full size guns, 5 for double action only with no safety/decocker and a bobbed hammer on compacts. | ||
For example, | For example, 590X are full size service weapons, there are no 591X. However for the 40SW and 45ACP, the third number does specify the size where 0 is full size and 1 is compact. The 4006 and 4506 are full size and the 4013 and 4513, 4516 are compacts. | ||
The last number for the 3rd generation S&W handguns is about frame type and finish. If it is 6, the frame is stainless steel, if it is 3, the frame is aluminum (or sometimes titanium) alloy, and if it is 4, the frame is aluminum alloy but both the slide and frame have a blued (black) finish. | The last number for the 3rd generation S&W handguns is about frame type and finish. If it is 6, the frame is stainless steel, if it is 3, the frame is aluminum (or sometimes titanium) alloy, and if it is 4, the frame is aluminum alloy but both the slide and frame have a blued (black) finish. | ||
Revision as of 00:25, 17 January 2011
Demolition Man
Quick FYI: You replaced the picture of the 3913 on the Demolition Man page with a stock picture that you uploaded. The picture of the 3913 we have on the page is the actual screen-used gun from the movie; it was photographed by MoviePropMaster2008, who is a movie armorer and knows the guys at Cinema Weaponry (who supplied the guns used on Demolition Man). We do not allow users to replace screen-used gun pictures taken by MoviePropMaster2008.
Also, while I appreciate that the 3913 "NL" is not marked "Ladysmith", the fact that it's otherwise identical to the Ladysmith model seems to obviate the need for a separate entry on the 3913 page. The markings of particular weapons are usually not enough to warrant separate gun entries (the Beretta M9, for example, is included within the Beretta 92F category on the Beretta 92 pistol series page). -MT2008 15:44, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the heads up and the tips on what I had done wrong. --Luckyluciano 04:05, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
S&W number system
I've been interested in second and third generation S&W Autos for a while as well. I was wondering if you could fill me in on the number system they used to designate their third generation pistols? I know that 59xx are double column 9mms, 39xx are single column 9mms, 69xx are compact double-column 9mms, 40xx are .40S&W, and 45xx are .45 ACPs. With regard to the last two digits in the designation system I always seem to come across variants that contradict my understanding of the system and new number combinations I've never seen. Any information you could provide would be appreciated. -Anonymous
S&W 3rd gen number system
This is a very simplified response as there are many exceptions to this general rule. But for the most part, the info below applies. I won't include special models such as TSW, LadySmith, NL etc as these are mostly cosmetic and sometimes functional enhancements.
For 3rd generation S&W semi-autos, the first two numbers designate the caliber; and in the case of 39XX and 69XX, caliber, magazine stack and size) for the series. For example, 59XX would be 9mm, 40XX would be 40 S&W, 45XX would be the 45ACP series, 39XX would be the single stack 9mm guns and 69XX the double stack compact guns.
The third number designates the design size for all but the 9mm guns. It can also denote features. The numbers are 0 for full size, 1 for compact, 4 for double action only with no safety/decocker and a bobbed hammer on full size guns, 5 for double action only with no safety/decocker and a bobbed hammer on compacts.
For example, 590X are full size service weapons, there are no 591X. However for the 40SW and 45ACP, the third number does specify the size where 0 is full size and 1 is compact. The 4006 and 4506 are full size and the 4013 and 4513, 4516 are compacts.
The last number for the 3rd generation S&W handguns is about frame type and finish. If it is 6, the frame is stainless steel, if it is 3, the frame is aluminum (or sometimes titanium) alloy, and if it is 4, the frame is aluminum alloy but both the slide and frame have a blued (black) finish.
Here are the most common S&W guns you will see in movies or encounter at gun shops:
Standard DA/SA with Safety/Decocker
3913 - 9mm | compact size single stack | alloy frame
3914 - 9mm | compact size single stack | alloy frame - blued (black) slide and frame
6906 - 9mm | compact size double stack | alloy frame
6904 - 9mm | compact size double stack | alloy frame - blued (black) slide and frame
5906 - 9mm | full size | stainless frame
5903 - 9mm | full size | alloy frame
5904 - 9mm | full size | alloy frame - blued (black) slide and frame
4006 - 40SW | full size | stainless frame
4003 - 40SW | full size | alloy frame
4004 - 40SW | full size | alloy frame - blued (black) slide and frame
4013 - 40SW | compact size | alloy frame
4506 - 45ACP | full size | stainless frame
4503 - 45ACP | full size | alloy frame
4516 - 45ACP | compact size | stainless frame
4513 - 45ACP | compact size | alloy frame
DAO Models
3953 - 9mm | compact size | alloy frame - DAO, no safety/decocker, bobbed hammer
3954 - 9mm | compact size | alloy frame blued (black) slide and frame - DAO, no safety/decocker, bobbed hammer
4046 - 40SW | full size | stainless frame - DAO, no safety/decocker, bobbed hammer
4043 - 40SW | full size | alloy frame - DAO, no safety/decocker, bobbed hammer
Medium frame pistols - 45 ACP comes in full size 5 inch barrels and compact 3.5 inch,
the 6 in these denote 4.25 inch barrels (medium size).
4566 - 45ACP | medium size | stainless frame
4563 - 45ACP | medium size | alloy frame
That's about it. I haven't gotten into the budget version of these guns which all have 3 digits such as the 908, 910, 915, 457, etc. There's lots more to learn about those. --Luckyluciano 03:26, 3 January 2011 (UTC)