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'''The following guns were used in the movie "[[1968 Tunnel Rats]]"'''
'''The following guns were used in the movie "[[1968 Tunnel Rats]]"'''


=Rifles=
==Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine==
Sgt. Mike Heaney ([[Brad Schmidt]]) and Cpl. Dan Green ([[Wilson Bethel]]) carry the [[M16 rifle series|Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine]] rifles.
[[Image:ColtSporterIICarbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Sporter II Carbine with 20 round magazine. Colt model #R-6420. Colt still insisted on using the SP1 style lower receiver so any rifle that looks like this but has the ribbing around the magazine release button is not a Colt rifle. Variants of this rifle have both the round and tear drop forward assist buttons, however, most of the early years of production had the tear drop button, like this rifle in the photo - - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:TRats CplDanGreen ColtSporterCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Cpl. Dan Green ([[Wilson Bethel]]) carries a Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine as he greets the new arrivals.]]
[[Image:TRats SgtMikeHeaney ColtSporterCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Mike Heaney ([[Brad Schmidt]]) gives the order to saddle up, holding his Sporter Carbine.]]
[[Image:TRats CplDanGreen ColtSporterCarbine 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Heaney aims his Sporter Carbine down a tunnel.]]
[[Image:TRats Soldier ColtSporterCarbine.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US Soldier fires his Sporter Carbine during the NVA attack.]]


==M1911A1==
==M16==
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]]
The original model [[M16 rifle series|M16]] are used at the beginning of the film during the Chopper disembarkation by Pvt. Terence Verano ([[Rocky Marquette]]) and other soldiers. As with the other rifles in the film, it can be seen on occasion with anachronistic 30-round magazines.
[[Image:TR-M1911A1.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Tunnel Rat breaks out of the ground with his flashlight and M1911A1 - .45 acp]]
[[Image:M16-SP1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The original M16, the first version, firing in a 20-round magazine, adopted in large numbers by the U.S. Air Force in Vietnam. This has the original 3-prong flash hider. It would later be replaced by the upgraded M16A1 - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:TRats PvtTerenceVerano M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pvt. Terence Verano ([[Rocky Marquette]]) with an M16 during the Chopper ride.]]
[[Image:TRats Soldier M16.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A US soldier hauling a body bag carries an M16.]]
 
==M16A1==
Most of the US Soldiers carry the updated [[M16 rifle series|M16A1]] rifles, including Lt. Vic Hollowborn ([[Michael Paré]]), Pvt. Samuel Graybridge ([[Brandon Fobbs]]), Pvt. Terence Verano ([[Rocky Marquette]]) Pvt. Jim Lidford ([[Nate Parker]]) and Pvt. Bob Miller ([[Jeffrey Christopher Todd]]).
[[Image:M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with 20 round magazine. What distinguishes it from the original M16 was the addition of a raised rib around the magazine release button, changing of the forward Receiver pins, and the addition of the forward assist button on the upper receiver - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:M16A1wA2Handguards.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A1 with A2 style handguards. Putting the distinctive A2 handguards on the older rifle was a method used by Movie/TV armorers to simulate A2 rifles when M16A1s were the only ones available. The same thing has been done vice-versa, Using M16A2's with A1 handguards for Vietnam War B Movies - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:TRats PvtSamuelGraybridge M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pvt. Samuel Graybridge ([[Brandon Fobbs]]) carries an M16A1 rifle, complete with A2 style handguards and anachronistic 30-round magazines.]]
[[Image:TRats PvtJimLidford PvtTerranceVerano M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pvt. Terence Verano ([[Rocky Marquette]]) and Pvt. Jim Lidford ([[Nate Parker]]) lugging M16A1 rifles on patrol, both with A2 handguards and 30-round mags.]]
[[Image:TRats PvtJimLidford M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lidford scans the jungle with his M16A1.]]
[[Image:TRats PvtSamuelGraybridge M16A1 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Graybridge on watch with his M16A1.]]
[[Image:TRats LtVicHollowborn M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Lt. Vic Hollowborn ([[Michael Paré]]) fires an M16A1 during the NVA attack on the US Camp.]]
[[Image:TRats PvtSamuelGraybridge M16A1 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Graybridge fires at pursuing NVA at full automatic.]]
[[Image:TRats PvtBobMiller M16A1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Pvt. Bob Miller ([[Jeffrey Christopher Todd]]) with his M16A1.]]
[[Image:TRats PvtBobMiller M16A1 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Miller tries to clear a jam on his M16A1.]]
 
==M16A2==
During the scene where a captured NVA soldier is hung, a soldier can be seen with an anachronistic M16A2 rifles, identified by the heavy barrel. This make wasn't introduced until 1989.
[[Image:M16A2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:TRats Soldier M16A2 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Soldier rests an M16A2 rifle on his chest.]]
[[Image:TRats Soldier M16A2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M16A2, identified by its heavy barrel, can be seen in the center of the image.]]
 
==AK-47==
Several NVA soldiers, including Vo Mai ([[Jane Le]]), carry the [[AK-47]]. It appears to be a Type II model.
[[Image:AK-47 type II Part DM-ST-89-01131.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Type II AK-47. (note stock mounting bracket) with prototype slab sided magazine - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:TRats VoMai AK47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Vo Mai ([[Jane Le]]) carries an AK-47.]]
[[Image:TRats NVASoldier AK47.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier fires an AK-47.]]
 
==Norinco Type 84S==
Most of the NVA soldiers, including Huy Tran ([[Scott Ly]]) and Nguyen Van Chien ([[John Wynn]]), use the anachronistic [[AK-47|Norinco Type 84S]] rifles, rather then the periodically correct Type 56 rifles. Most likely the film crew were unable to obtain enough AK-47's.
[[Image:NorincoType84SRifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Norinco Type 84S - 5.56x45mm]]
[[Image:TRats HuyTran NguyenVanChien NorincoType84.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Huy Tran ([[Scott Ly]]) and Nguyen Van Chien ([[John Wynn]]) with Norinco Type 84S rifles.]]
[[Image:TRats NguyenVanChien NorincoType84.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nguyen aims his Type 84S.]]
[[Image:TRats NguyenVanChien NorincoType84 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nguyen loads a magazine into his Type 84S.]]
[[Image:TRats HuyTran Norinco Type 84.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Huy on patrol with his Type 84S.]]
[[Image:TRats NguyenVanChien NorincoType84 3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nguyen aims his Type 84S.]]
[[Image:TRats NguyenVanChien NorincoType84 4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Nguyen fires his Type 84S on semi-automatic mode.]]
[[Image:TRats NVASoldier NorincoType84.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier trying to clear a jam in his Type 84S.]]
[[Image:TRats HuyTrain Norinco Type 84 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Huy struggles to load his Type 84S.]]
 
==Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine==
A [[Mosin Nagant Rifle|Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine]] can be seen in Vo Mai's ([[Jane Le]]) dugout in the tunnels.
[[Image:M38Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine. This is the version issued during most of World War 2, the M44 would not be fielded until the last six months of the war. Note slightly shorter barrel, lack of brass reinforcements in the Sling holes and lack of bayonet notch in the stock - 7.62x54R]]
[[Image:TRats VoMai MosinNagant.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine sits against a wall in Vo Mai's ([[Jane Le]]) dugout.]]
[[Image:TRats VoMai MosinNagant 2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the M38 Carbine against the wall.]]
 
 
==Colt M1911A1==
The [[M1911 pistol series|Colt M1911A1]] is used by the US Soldiers for Tunnel Rat Duty. Sporting it throughout the film are Lt. Vic Hollowborn ([[Michael Paré]]), Sgt. Mike Heaney ([[Brad Schmidt]]), Cpl. Dan Green ([[Wilson Bethel]]), Pvt. Peter Harris ([[Mitch Eakins]]), Pvt. Carl Johnson ([[Erik Eidem]]), Pvt. Terence Verano ([[Rocky Marquette]]) and Pvt. Jonathon Porterson ([[Garikayi Mutambirwa]]).
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP]]


==Smith & Wesson Model 916-A==
==Smith & Wesson Model 916-A==
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==XM177==


==Colt Sporter I Carbine==
==Colt Sporter I Carbine==
Seen are unadorned Colt Sporter I Carbines with the 16" lightweight barrel and slab side upper and lower receiver.
Seen are unadorned Colt Sporter I Carbines with the 16" lightweight barrel and slab side upper and lower receiver.
[[Image:TR-ColtCarbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
[[Image:TR-ColtCarbine.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]
==M16==
[[Image:TR-Squad.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|The squad dismounts from their UH-1A "Huey" helicopter with M16s. (I think it's the early A model, which makes it too  'short' to carry the standard complement of soldiers.  Typical Uwe Boll mistake, the Helo has a non-subdued U.S. AIRFORCE logo (but no letter stating USAF).  What's a USAF helicopter doing dropping off Infantry?]]
==M16A1==
The Real historical Vietnam war rifle [[M16A1]].
==Adler-Jager AP-74==
[[Image:TR-ArmiJagerM1622.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Promotional Still image from 1968 Tunnel Rats (2009)]]
==MGC M16==
* Visible are obviously ModelGun Corp M16 replica rifles.
==M16A2==
During the base camp scene, soldiers are seen carrying heavy barreled [[M16A2]] rifles, a variant of the M16 which wasn't introduced until 1986.
[[Image:TR M16A2.jpg‎|thumb|none|600px|]]


==M60==
==M60==

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1968 Tunnel Rats (2009)

1968 Tunnel Rats is the latest film directed by 'infamous director' Uwe Boll. The film was originally titled Tunnel Rats. The film was screened at film festivals in Canada and Germany and had a limited theatrical run in Los Angeles at the Downtown Independent Theater on December 20th, 2008. The 'official' release date for the film in the U.S. was supposed to be March 13th, 2009, however that release date got pushed back, despite being released elsewhere in the world on DVD. The U.S. DVD was released on Jun 30, 2009.

Like usual, there is a lot to criticize in the film, though the film itself has mixed reviews (some reviewers actually think Boll is getting better(!)) But there was not a lot of thought put into the costuming and gear for the film. Being filmed in South Africa (standing in for Vietnam), American soldiers wear green South African Cotton uniforms (as seen in Red Scorpion in the guise of Russian and Cuban Soldiers), their shoulder patches are bright and not subdued (subdued insignia was common by 1968) and the helmet covers are Woodland BDU, not the Nam leaf pattern which is correct for Vietnam.


The following guns were used in the movie "1968 Tunnel Rats"

Rifles

Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine

Sgt. Mike Heaney (Brad Schmidt) and Cpl. Dan Green (Wilson Bethel) carry the Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine rifles.

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Colt Sporter II Carbine with 20 round magazine. Colt model #R-6420. Colt still insisted on using the SP1 style lower receiver so any rifle that looks like this but has the ribbing around the magazine release button is not a Colt rifle. Variants of this rifle have both the round and tear drop forward assist buttons, however, most of the early years of production had the tear drop button, like this rifle in the photo - - 5.56x45mm
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Cpl. Dan Green (Wilson Bethel) carries a Colt AR-15 Sporter Carbine as he greets the new arrivals.
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Sgt. Mike Heaney (Brad Schmidt) gives the order to saddle up, holding his Sporter Carbine.
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Sgt. Heaney aims his Sporter Carbine down a tunnel.
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A US Soldier fires his Sporter Carbine during the NVA attack.

M16

The original model M16 are used at the beginning of the film during the Chopper disembarkation by Pvt. Terence Verano (Rocky Marquette) and other soldiers. As with the other rifles in the film, it can be seen on occasion with anachronistic 30-round magazines.

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The original M16, the first version, firing in a 20-round magazine, adopted in large numbers by the U.S. Air Force in Vietnam. This has the original 3-prong flash hider. It would later be replaced by the upgraded M16A1 - 5.56x45mm
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Pvt. Terence Verano (Rocky Marquette) with an M16 during the Chopper ride.
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A US soldier hauling a body bag carries an M16.

M16A1

Most of the US Soldiers carry the updated M16A1 rifles, including Lt. Vic Hollowborn (Michael Paré), Pvt. Samuel Graybridge (Brandon Fobbs), Pvt. Terence Verano (Rocky Marquette) Pvt. Jim Lidford (Nate Parker) and Pvt. Bob Miller (Jeffrey Christopher Todd).

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M16A1 with 20 round magazine. What distinguishes it from the original M16 was the addition of a raised rib around the magazine release button, changing of the forward Receiver pins, and the addition of the forward assist button on the upper receiver - 5.56x45mm
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M16A1 with A2 style handguards. Putting the distinctive A2 handguards on the older rifle was a method used by Movie/TV armorers to simulate A2 rifles when M16A1s were the only ones available. The same thing has been done vice-versa, Using M16A2's with A1 handguards for Vietnam War B Movies - 5.56x45mm
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Pvt. Samuel Graybridge (Brandon Fobbs) carries an M16A1 rifle, complete with A2 style handguards and anachronistic 30-round magazines.
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Pvt. Terence Verano (Rocky Marquette) and Pvt. Jim Lidford (Nate Parker) lugging M16A1 rifles on patrol, both with A2 handguards and 30-round mags.
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Lidford scans the jungle with his M16A1.
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Graybridge on watch with his M16A1.
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Lt. Vic Hollowborn (Michael Paré) fires an M16A1 during the NVA attack on the US Camp.
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Graybridge fires at pursuing NVA at full automatic.
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Pvt. Bob Miller (Jeffrey Christopher Todd) with his M16A1.
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Miller tries to clear a jam on his M16A1.

M16A2

During the scene where a captured NVA soldier is hung, a soldier can be seen with an anachronistic M16A2 rifles, identified by the heavy barrel. This make wasn't introduced until 1989.

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M16A2 Rifle - 5.56x45mm
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A Soldier rests an M16A2 rifle on his chest.
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The M16A2, identified by its heavy barrel, can be seen in the center of the image.

AK-47

Several NVA soldiers, including Vo Mai (Jane Le), carry the AK-47. It appears to be a Type II model.

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Type II AK-47. (note stock mounting bracket) with prototype slab sided magazine - 7.62x39mm
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Vo Mai (Jane Le) carries an AK-47.
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An NVA soldier fires an AK-47.

Norinco Type 84S

Most of the NVA soldiers, including Huy Tran (Scott Ly) and Nguyen Van Chien (John Wynn), use the anachronistic Norinco Type 84S rifles, rather then the periodically correct Type 56 rifles. Most likely the film crew were unable to obtain enough AK-47's.

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Norinco Type 84S - 5.56x45mm
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Huy Tran (Scott Ly) and Nguyen Van Chien (John Wynn) with Norinco Type 84S rifles.
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Nguyen aims his Type 84S.
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Nguyen loads a magazine into his Type 84S.
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Huy on patrol with his Type 84S.
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Nguyen aims his Type 84S.
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Nguyen fires his Type 84S on semi-automatic mode.
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An NVA soldier trying to clear a jam in his Type 84S.
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Huy struggles to load his Type 84S.

Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine

A Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine can be seen in Vo Mai's (Jane Le) dugout in the tunnels.

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Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine. This is the version issued during most of World War 2, the M44 would not be fielded until the last six months of the war. Note slightly shorter barrel, lack of brass reinforcements in the Sling holes and lack of bayonet notch in the stock - 7.62x54R
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A Mosin Nagant M38 Carbine sits against a wall in Vo Mai's (Jane Le) dugout.
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Another shot of the M38 Carbine against the wall.


Colt M1911A1

The Colt M1911A1 is used by the US Soldiers for Tunnel Rat Duty. Sporting it throughout the film are Lt. Vic Hollowborn (Michael Paré), Sgt. Mike Heaney (Brad Schmidt), Cpl. Dan Green (Wilson Bethel), Pvt. Peter Harris (Mitch Eakins), Pvt. Carl Johnson (Erik Eidem), Pvt. Terence Verano (Rocky Marquette) and Pvt. Jonathon Porterson (Garikayi Mutambirwa).

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Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP

Smith & Wesson Model 916-A

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Smith & Wesson 916A - 12 gauge
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Soldier carries Smith & Wesson Model 916-A Shotgun. Yeow! Boll can sure screw up uniforms! The Webgear is 1980s vintage LCE, the helmet covers are Woodland BDU camo, and the shoulder patches are non-subdued.
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Colt Sporter I Carbine

Seen are unadorned Colt Sporter I Carbines with the 16" lightweight barrel and slab side upper and lower receiver.

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M60

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Seen in every scene with a squad of soldiers, one always carries the ubiquitous M60 GPMG - 7.62x51mm

M79

Browning M2 Heavy Barrel Machine Gun

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Browning M2HB on vehicle mount - .50 BMG

AK-47

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Promotional Still image from 1968 Tunnel Rats (2009)

Type 84

  • Rather anachronistically, the NVA soldiers use Norinco Type 84S (5.56mm) AK rifles whereas they should be using Type 56 rifles chambered in 7.62x39mm

Mosin Nagant Rifles