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::Some of S&W Performance Center guns are like that for some reason, with the hollowed out shroud. Maybe it's for weight savings. Also are y'all sure that ejector shroud on the Model 27 from DOD is wrong? It kind of looks like its indented, be it could be the lighting and shadowing making it look that way.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC) | ::Some of S&W Performance Center guns are like that for some reason, with the hollowed out shroud. Maybe it's for weight savings. Also are y'all sure that ejector shroud on the Model 27 from DOD is wrong? It kind of looks like its indented, be it could be the lighting and shadowing making it look that way.--[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 22:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
::: With Close examination you can see that the gun is normal and in fact is by the light. --[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 23:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC) | ::: With Close examination you can see that the gun is normal and in fact is by the light. --[[User:Dillinger|Dillinger]] 23:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::: Also notice the symbol embossed on the marks and the absence of the grips screw. Looks just like a rubber prop.--[[User:Charly Driver|Charly Driver]] 09:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 09:54, 8 November 2010
(NOTE: CJ ACTUALLY USED A G22 OR POSSIBLY A G23. You can see when he drops the magazine, it says ".40S&W". However, it is a 10 rd limit so you can not distinguish the model GLOCK.)
[12 JUL 2008: CORRECTION - The magazine that drops from CJ's Glock is indeed a 10 rounder, but it does not say .40S&W, it says ".45". If you have the DVD, pause it on that scene and you'll see it. This would also be consistent with being used in a G21]
All Service Model Glocks (17, 20, 21, 22, 31 & 37) all have a 15 round mag capacity.
[12 JUL 2008: The above mag capacities are not exact (assuming reference to standard Glock High-Cap magazines, and not with the +2 floorplate). The G17 in 9mm = 17 rounds (the G19 in 9mm would have 15 rounds), the G21 in .45ACP = 13 rounds. The G37 in .45GAP only holds 10 rounds.]
The movie was filmed in the summer of 2003 when magazines available for private citizens were limited to ten rounds plus it was filmed in Canada. Would this also play into it? Just wondering. --Jcordell 03:35, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Shotgun
(Edit) You can't identify a shotgun via the barrel. Barrels are easily changed between models ie the Mossy 500 and the 590 etc. You need to look at the receiver of the shotgun in question ie the loading/ejection port/bolt/rivets/pins/trigger guard/safety etc etc etc. Come on, guys, this is basic stuff. The shotgun used in that truck scene is a plain old pistol grip Mossberg 500 with an 18.5" barrel. The one used in that gunshop scene in the second pic is a shorty Remington 870. Tucker's shotgun switched back and forth from a Mossberg 500 to an 870 continually. There is nothing even close to an Ithaca 37 in that movie. The Ithaca 37 is a bottom ejecting pump....the ones used in the film all clearly had ejection ports.
In addition Micheal takes a simmilair looking weapon from the gunstore, although he is never shown fireing it. Cj takes this gun after Tuckers death, and ultimately somehow Terry gets ahold of it, and can be seen fireing it from the bus during the escape.
Ruger SP-101
This most definately is NOT a Ruger SP101. It's more likley a flashcap nongun, or an armscor 206. i think it is just a nongun to replace her model 19 because she is so close to steve.
I think it might be a nongun also, if you look closely you can see that the bore does not align with the cylinder very well. -User:AdAstra2009
I think this is the model 10 .38 special with a heavy barrel. I think so because when they are stocking up on ammo in the gun store he checks it and says it uses .38s. I know that .357s can fire .38s but if it was a .357 it would say so on the gun.
M249 SAW
Looks to me more like an M60 variant by the shape of the front sight. I'll have to watch the movie later and see if I can get a better look. Spartan198 17:07, 15 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198
Bart's revolver
I got to say that bart's revolver is more than likely a S&W model 10 with a heavy barrel. During the scene in andy's gunshop while CJ and Bart are grabbing ammo. CJ asks bart what caliber he needs, Bart clearly calls out ".38". Why CJ didn't know that is anyones guess. - That wasn't Bart. It was Terry. Bart was the 1st survivor to die. and if you watch the movie with subtitles on, you can hear him say .357 so yes, it is a Model 13
It could be either or because they ask for both ammo types, and they have a Model 19 snub too as well as a possible dozen of other .357 caliber weapons, because they are in a gun store. It has to be a Model 13 though or else it hadn't been loaded in nearly every scene it was pointed at someone, as it's not used but it still deters people when it's aimed at them, even people like CJ who would know whether or not it was empty. --Yournamehere 03:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
Kenneth's Shotgun
MPM is gonna hate me for this but the mockup that he made isn't entirely accurate to the gun Kenneth used in the latter parts of the movie. MPMs mockup has the short police/riot forend which doesn't cover the loading gate when cocked, but Kenneth's is clearly the old hunting style synthetic that covers the gate when pumped. If you look at MPM's build and the one Kenneth is holding, you'll see what I mean. --Yournamehere 03:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- And what screenshot shows this? You will have to show how this is so. I checked the images again and I don't see it. Also Surefire didn't make old style hunting forearms when they made the tactical flashlight fore-ends. MoviePropMaster2008 05:22, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
This is what he is referring to --AdAstra2009 16:55, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Vandal
I had to back out (undo all the steps made by the vandal) which included canceling edits made by other fixing the vandalism. That way I could catch ALL of the vandalism MoviePropMaster2008 05:19, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Ving Rhames really knows his stuff
He handles those shotguns better than just about any actor I've ever with a firearm in any movie. Spartan198 16:04, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Snyder is a bit of a gun nut, the "pussy 9 mils" was his little tip to .45, according the the audio commentary. I imagine he had Ving go through a a lot of tactical gun training.--Jackie.45Cal 17:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
P-229.
A gun can be seen in Micheals wasteband during the escpe, until he takes it out, and puts it down,when he gets behind the drivers seat of the bus. I got a buddie who insit its the Sig.
CJ's Odd Mood Swings
This isn't really gun-related, but can anyone explain CJ's abrupt change of mood at the end of the film? He goes from hating everyone else and being ready to kill them to being prepared to sacrifice himself for them. I didn't really get that.
Type of personality that you sometimes run into in the military. Wartime: Hero. Peacetime: Fuck Up. The traits that make for a great combat soldier don't necessarily make for a good peacetime citizen. That's my take.--Jcordell 19:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
I kinda see what you mean. I just thought it was odd that he was prepared to hold off the zombies for people who'd done nothing but keep him locked up for a month. Although, he does try the door, so he may not necesarily have thought he was sacrificing himself. Another question: When he tries the door, what does he say? Is it "Damn! Fuck!" or "Jammed! Fuck!" I think it's "damn."
Birdshot Shells?
When Tucker says "We've got Twelve o' these shotguns shells" as he puts them on the table, they look to be low-brass birdshot. Did anyone else think so, or am I mistaken? -SasquatchJim
Smith & Wesson Model 27
Did anybody else take a close look at this screencap and spot something wrong?
The ejector rod housing is all wrong, it looks like it's supposed to swing out to the right side instead of the left. At first I thought it was a reversed shot but there's no cylinder release latch. I think it's one of those fake Dollar Store guns that sell for about a buck, they're molded in a similar manner.
- That's a good point. I believe there's a similar goof on one screencap with Clint Eastwood's S&W Performance Center 627 in Blood Work. StanTheMan 20:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- The gun on Blood Work is supposed to be like that. --Predator20 22:05, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- That's a good point. I believe there's a similar goof on one screencap with Clint Eastwood's S&W Performance Center 627 in Blood Work. StanTheMan 20:52, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- I thought it was still shrouded from the right..Whoa, learn something new every day. Thanks Pred. Nice image, BTW. StanTheMan 22:10, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Some of S&W Performance Center guns are like that for some reason, with the hollowed out shroud. Maybe it's for weight savings. Also are y'all sure that ejector shroud on the Model 27 from DOD is wrong? It kind of looks like its indented, be it could be the lighting and shadowing making it look that way.--Predator20 22:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- With Close examination you can see that the gun is normal and in fact is by the light. --Dillinger 23:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Also notice the symbol embossed on the marks and the absence of the grips screw. Looks just like a rubber prop.--Charly Driver 09:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- With Close examination you can see that the gun is normal and in fact is by the light. --Dillinger 23:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Some of S&W Performance Center guns are like that for some reason, with the hollowed out shroud. Maybe it's for weight savings. Also are y'all sure that ejector shroud on the Model 27 from DOD is wrong? It kind of looks like its indented, be it could be the lighting and shadowing making it look that way.--Predator20 22:18, 6 November 2010 (UTC)