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[[Image:spas12_fixed.jpg|thumb|500px|none|This photo show the SPAS 12 with a fixed stock and pistol grip, the ones used in the movie.]] | [[Image:spas12_fixed.jpg|thumb|500px|none|This photo show the SPAS 12 with a fixed stock and pistol grip, the ones used in the movie.]] | ||
If there's any way to do so someone insert it instead of the folding stock one. Just use "spas12_fixed.jpg" Thanks. --[[User:Camden Hennis|Camden Hennis]] 15:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC) | If there's any way to do so someone insert it instead of the folding stock one. Just use "spas12_fixed.jpg" Thanks. --[[User:Camden Hennis|Camden Hennis]] 15:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
:: I think the page is locked to admins only. In any case, I disagree with your idea for a picture change, that is no more accurate than the other picture, the SPAS's in the Matrix have extended magazine tubes and barrels, unlike the fairly short SPAS in that picture. Plus, and not to put you down, but that looks to be a jacked image, and a poor size/quality one at that. The SPAS image being used is one of MPM's which are taken just to be used on the site. In the end, I don't see any reason to change it myself. But I guess it's not up to me. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 16:04, 3 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Mouse's rotary shotguns
John Bowring, Armourer for The Matrix, sent the below email to madogre regarding the guns.
"I made & supplied the guns for the Matrix
1) Mouses guns are custom made electrically driven 12g that run at 900RPM
2) I chose Beretta 84's for Trinity as you said good little sister to Nios
92's.
3) Larry & Andy the directors of the matrix asked me who uses a 50AE desert
eagle I Said " A Wanka" there reply no who are they maid for I said "
Wankers" there reply are wankers in this film want Desert eagles My reply
your film.
4) Wardrobe mistress wonted to change Switches pistol as she had and "I
quote her designed the pistols for Romeo & Juliet" my reply stick to
designing wardrobes. (Beside the funding for Romeo & Juliet was got by
doing a small section of it to show what it would be like for which "I"
suppled Stainless steel Beretta and that is what set the tone for the guns
in Romeo & Juliet)
You never know whose out there
John Bowring"
bunni 14:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC
.50 Caliber
another point on the .50 Desert Eagles, the .44 mag and .357 mag desert eagles have fluted barrels (where the handle meets them and the barrels go from a box cross-section to a more octagonal cross-section) and the ones in the screenshots have none. As a source for this I would cite the official product page[1] in the product info for the mark XIX desert eagle, and possibly compare them to the .357 mag on the 10-inch below it [2]
- I thought only the .44 Magnum version of the Mark XIX had the fluted barrel? Or at least, the Mark I and Mark VII in .357 Magnum didn't have the fluted barrel, I dunno about the Mark XIX as I've never seen/handled one in .357. -MT2008 23:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
caliber
--I'm not too sure that these are .50AE. If anything, the agents have fired much more than the 7 rounds in a .50 Desert Eagle, and there is barely any recoil as a .50 would. I would say that it would be a Deagle chambered in .357 Magnum instead. If I am mistaken, I stand corrected. --Blemo 21:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- They are most definitely the .50 AE version. That is without doubt a .50-cal bore in the third screenshot; the .357 bore is much smaller. The armorer who worked on the movie, John Bowring, has also said they are the .50 AE version in interviews. The reason there's so little recoil is because the actors are firing blanks (as you can also see in the last image), and blanks have much less recoil than live rounds. -MT2008
- Also, the fact that the agents fired many more then seven shots is irrelevant. This is the matrix, after all, where a submachine gun with a thirty round mag can fire at least a hundred shots without running dry. Acora 21:56, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- The UMP you are referring to is just one example of a "hack" weapon that doesn't apply to the rules of Matrix, but most guns do, which is weird cause why are Neo's, Trinity's, etc. Why are their guns not unlimited or nearly bottomless. Morpheus was seen reloading his Glock twice. Excalibur01
- Exactly, the whole, "anything's possible because it's the Matrix" is a copout answer when you consider the inconsistencies related to guns. And anyway, I really don't care about that stuff anyway. This is IMFDB. We're concerned with the the behind-the-scenes reality, not the the movie universe. Save that shit for some Matrix fanboy site. -MT2008 05:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
M1911A1
The page is missing one more gun. During the rooftop scene when Neo and Trinity are fighting several soldiers, I noticed the guy who tries to shoot Trinity is holding what appears to be a M1911A1.
Military controlled Building's Security
Are the lobby guards and the backup soldiers are really classified as bad guys? And when the lobby guard said to send backup, was he really calling the agents?
In the film, Morpheus mentions that anyone can become an agent, which is why you see Trinity take out the seemingly innocent cops at the beginning. The security guard was just calling up the SWAT and not the agents. --Ben41 01:31, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- To add onto what Ben said, nod, the security guards aren't bad guys. However, it's possible for them to become agents at any time, and besides, they would stand in the way of rescuing Morpheus if there weren't taken care of. Therefore, it was neccesary, and more interesting, for Neo and Trinity to fight them. Acora 22:08, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
- The stupid part is that since this is the Matrix, they never explain what they can and cannot bring with them or just simply call up. If they could bring up as many guns they could carry, why not summon a car or a helicopter. They needlessly did a drawn out shootout and ended up getting a helicopter at the roof Excalibur01
- Because it looks cool.
- For everybody's information, the "backup" the security guards called up when Neo and Trinity made their entrance into the Government Building's lobby were in fact soldiers, not SWAT officers. If you look carefully, you will see that there is a significant differences between the two groups e.g. SWAT officers having the world "POLICE" on their body armour while the soldiers had no markings on the front of their body armour (excpet for their nametapes), the soldiers having knife/bayonet scabbards on their webbing while the SWAT officers did not, the SWAT officers at the hotel wore armoured gaiters around their shins while the soldiers did not etc etc. If one can look over the hotel scenes and the lobby shootout scenes, you'll know what I'm talking about. - Roughneck Jase 20:10PM AEST 19 October 2010
Mouse's Shotguns
Would one of the admins mind linking this article to (The Matrix) - Mouse's Shotguns? I'm trying to cut down on the number of orphaned and dead-end pages.--PistolJunkie 14:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Picture Caption
Whoever wrote the caption on the last Desert Eagle picture is probably not aware of the magic of film editing. Assuming he is talking about the shot in that picture, the probably simply took a shot of the Desert Eagle firing and then edited it in to make it look like he was getting shot. As I recall, the movie never actually showed Keanu next to the Desert Eagle in that scene. -- K98.118.59.151 16:47, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, whoever wrote that comment obviously had no idea what they were talking about, so I edited it out. -MT2008 10:25, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
SPAS 12
Someone must have locked the page because I can't edit the thing. I have a better picture for the SPAS 12, the ones used in the movie have fixed stocks and pistol grips, I have a picture uploaded that shows the SPAS 12 with this furniture, I think it'd be better than the picture with a folding stock. Here's the picture:
If there's any way to do so someone insert it instead of the folding stock one. Just use "spas12_fixed.jpg" Thanks. --Camden Hennis 15:58, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- I think the page is locked to admins only. In any case, I disagree with your idea for a picture change, that is no more accurate than the other picture, the SPAS's in the Matrix have extended magazine tubes and barrels, unlike the fairly short SPAS in that picture. Plus, and not to put you down, but that looks to be a jacked image, and a poor size/quality one at that. The SPAS image being used is one of MPM's which are taken just to be used on the site. In the end, I don't see any reason to change it myself. But I guess it's not up to me. StanTheMan 16:04, 3 November 2010 (UTC)