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::: It is correct, the first screencap itself shows a notch for a fire-selector, which is not on any civilian semi-auto-only rifles, only actual M14s and M21s. As to whether this is an M14 or M21 I'm not particularly certain (The same mod involving removing the selector was done on normal M14s), however, it indeed is not an M1A. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC) | ::: It is correct, the first screencap itself shows a notch for a fire-selector, which is not on any civilian semi-auto-only rifles, only actual M14s and M21s. As to whether this is an M14 or M21 I'm not particularly certain (The same mod involving removing the selector was done on normal M14s), however, it indeed is not an M1A. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 03:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC) | ||
: EDIT - Going through the edit logs, I've found it was previously called an M25, which from what I gather, is what the Navy designates the M21 as (The Army uses the M21 designation). SO, to be accurate, I'll edit to M25 instead of M21. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] 18:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Shotgun muzzle device... == | == Shotgun muzzle device... == | ||
Revision as of 18:19, 2 November 2010
Well, I'm done. How does it look? -The Winchester
- Great! Except that the weapon you IDed as an "AKS-47" is actually a Chinese Type 56-1. -MT2008
- It needs a small rewrite though.Oliveira 17:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
I added caps from the alternate opening of the director's cut of the film. They have the triangular handguards of the 'Nam-era M16s, but I couldn't get any clear shots of the receivers for further ID. Spartan198
- Please put captions on the screencaps. Please?-Oliveira 13:56, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Didn't really know what exactly to put, but I hope those captions suffice. Spartan198
- Thank you Spartan! Great Job! Those captions suffice. Even if they are generic they suffice.-Oliveira 14:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- Didn't really know what exactly to put, but I hope those captions suffice. Spartan198
- I'm sure you've noticed, but you also need the gun picture and the page links. Remember, if you're going to make additions, it's totally welcome, but please follow format. -MT2008
- I don't think gun pictures are needed in this case since Spartan doesn't know what kind of M16s they are.-Oliveira 15:04, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
- You can always guess. And that only addresses half my request. -MT2008
- I do not understand why the medic and the signaller, who would carry the heaviest loads, are both armed with heavier weapons plus ammunition.
Not an M1A
If you enlarge the second picture and look at the stock near the rear of the reciever, you'll see that it is cut for the selector switch. No M1A stock is like this, but all wood stocked M21 are since they're just rebarreled M14s with the selector removed and a scope attached. --Zurak 47 14:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
- I just watched the film again and I agree with you. His rifle obviously has a cut-out for a selector switch , and M1A rifles were never fitted with stocks that had a cut-out for a selector switch, since they were civilian rifles. -Jacco Croon-
- Somebody should do something about this. BurtReynoldsMoustache
- It is correct, the first screencap itself shows a notch for a fire-selector, which is not on any civilian semi-auto-only rifles, only actual M14s and M21s. As to whether this is an M14 or M21 I'm not particularly certain (The same mod involving removing the selector was done on normal M14s), however, it indeed is not an M1A. StanTheMan 03:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- EDIT - Going through the edit logs, I've found it was previously called an M25, which from what I gather, is what the Navy designates the M21 as (The Army uses the M21 designation). SO, to be accurate, I'll edit to M25 instead of M21. StanTheMan 18:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Shotgun muzzle device...
...is a "duckbill choke" intended to spread the shot pattern horizontally vs. vertically. They were also used by Vietnam era SEALS, primarily on pump shotguns. The intent is to have an effective, short ranges anti-ambush weapon for the point man. By aiming in the general direction of an identified ambusher and maintaining a horizontal hold, the shotgun can be effective against that ambusher as well as having a chance to hit/distract others close around him. In jungle and forest terrain with limited visibility and engagement ranges, ambushers would have to bunch up in order to maximize firepower on a patrol, especially along a trail.
The new layout
Whoever changed the pages layout to the guns being organized by gun type. yea, dont do that again as i dont like it nor do i think the page that I made and put a lot of effort into. If you want to do that to your page, knock yourself out, but do not do this to any of my pages again. Thank you. -Winchester
Chill the hell out! Christ!
The Knives
And Knives ???
Where are you??
- IMFDB. Firearms unless a cultural reference i.e. Rambo's knives. -The Winchester
Here are the main knives used; Emerson Police Utility Knife, Sog X-42 Recondo and Emerson Kandahar. Gunner313
Doc's AK
Doc is carrying older AK 47 not AKM. He also has early type magazine on it.
PP or PPK?
The PP looks a little short. Are we sure it's not a PPK? --funkychinaman 05:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Uniform Goofs
Just thought I'd point out a goof I noticed in the Marines' uniforms at the end of the film; they had the sleeves of their BDU uniforms rolled up. This is ONLY done when in garrison, NEVER during combat. Some people might also say that their BDU's were somewhat anachronistic as well, but this can be debatable as the digital MARPAT uniform was still being distributed to Marines. In fact, news footage of the 2003 invasion of Iraq (which took place the same year this film came out) often shows Marines wearing the older 3-color Desert Combat Uniform instead of MARPAT (when they weren't covered by woodland-patterned MOPP gear due to fears that Saddam might try to use WMD's against coalition forces).
Orca1 9904 02:57, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
M203s are Cobray 37mm Launchers
I'm pretty sure that both the M203s on Doc and Zee's M4s are Cobray 37mm launchers. I'm basing this on the screenshots taken. If you blow them up to full size you can see the cocking handle on them.--Gunkatas 03:14, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm looking at a very nice close-up of the receiver on Doc's launcher at the 1 hour mark of the film (the scene where they're at rest and everyone's eating) on my TV and I can tell you there's no cocking handle and the trigger guard is a rounded shape rather than square like a CM203's trigger guard is. They are indeed actual M203s. Spartan198 17:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)