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:I don't think so, the front sights are too short. The ejector shroud wraps around the ejector, which the model 36 doesn't do. And Colts have different cylinder releases and totally different ejector shrouds than S&Ws or Tauruses. I still think it is some type of S&W. | :I don't think so, the front sights are too short. The ejector shroud wraps around the ejector, which the model 36 doesn't do. And Colts have different cylinder releases and totally different ejector shrouds than S&Ws or Tauruses. I still think it is some type of S&W. | ||
::''Yeah, I agree that they're S&W, but they must be J-frame. If they're not M36s, maybe they're M32s?'' | |||
[[Image:HBS&W27Snub-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tequila's partner with his Model 27 during the teahouse shootout.]] | [[Image:HBS&W27Snub-2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Tequila's partner with his Model 27 during the teahouse shootout.]] |
Revision as of 23:39, 21 August 2008
The following guns were used in the film Hard Boiled:
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Norinco Type 54 (Tokarev TT-33)
Two Norinco Type 54 pistols (Chinese-made versions of the Tokarev TT-33) are used by Inspector Tequila Yuen (Chow Yun-Fat) during the opening shootout at the teahouse. He acquires these pistols when he smashes open a bird cage in which the pistols are being concealed by Hong Kong arms dealers selling them to customers in the teahouse (the dealer specifically refers to them as Chinese-made guns). Tokarev TT-33s (or the Norinco copies) also appear numerous other times in the movie in the hands of Johnny Wong's (Anthony Wong's) thugs, and Alan (Tony Leung) carries a nickel plated version early in the hospital scene when he and Tequila are searching for Wong's arms cache (he tries to shoot Mad Dog with it).
Browning Hi-Power
A Browning Hi-Power is used in sveral scenes. Teresa Chang (Tersea Mo) uses one to kill one of Johnny Wong's thugs in the hospital when he slaps her.
Ruger GP100
Tequila's sidearm which he carries throughout the movie is a blued-steel Ruger GP100 with a four inch barrel. In the warehouse scene, he attempts to kill Alan with it, only to discover he's fired off all six chambers(despite infact firing 10 shots throughout the scene). He later opens the gun and knocks out the empty shells in frustration.
Davis P-32
A .32 ACP Davis P-32 pistol fitted with a homemade suppressor is used by Alan to kill a traitor in his boss's organization. One of the detectives investigating the murder specifically refers to the weapon as a "Davis .32", indicating that it is definitely the P-32 and not the P-380 model (which looks very similar, but chambered for the larger-caliber .380 cartridge). The P-32 is hidden in a hollowed-out volume of Shakespeare plays in a library and then returned to this book after the execution has been completed.
Taurus PT92
Although Hard Boiled is known as a film which prominently features the Beretta 92FS (like many Chow Yun-Fat and John Woo movies), it is actually the Taurus PT92, the Brazilian imitation of the Beretta 92F, which is most frequently seen in the movie. You can tell when they're Tauruses because they have the frame-mounted safety, whereas the Beretta has a slide-mounted safety. Taurus PT92s are wielded by Inspector Tequila, by Tony Leung as Alan during his undercover work, and by many of Johnny Wong's thugs.
Beretta 92FS
The Beretta 92F is used in some scenes throughout the movie (but is not nearly as common as the Brazilian Taurus PT92 which is commonly mistaken for it). Alan attempts to pull a Beretta on Tequila during the scene where Tequila confronts him on his boat, but Tequila takes it and later uses it in a shootout on the dock. Tequila also has another Beretta 92F during the hospital shootout after he gives his stainless Taurus PT92 to Alan in the elevator (where he gets this pistol is a mystery - both he and Alan were only seen taking PT92s from the arms cache while equipping themselves to take on Johnny Wong's thugs). Tequila is later seen using the same 92FS in the hospital, as evident by its wooden grips.
Steyr GB
Alan uses a Steyr GB pistol during the shootout on his boat, although when he takes the gun out of its hiding place, it appears to be a Beretta or Taurus-type pistol (a continuity error, undoubtedly).
Smith & Wesson Model 27 Snub nose
The Smith & Wesson model 27 in .357 magnum is the standard sidearm of the Hong Kong police in the movie. In the hospital scene, while encouraging his men to shoot at the police surrounding the hospital, Johnny Wong mockingly points out that, "A cop's just a human being with a gun, he's not immortal. They've got guns, we've got guns, too. But they just have .38s [sic]." In a moment of irony, as Alan frees himself from his hostage situation, Tequila eliminates the villain with a single shot to the head from a patrolman's two-inch Model 27. Note the cylinder release type which only Taurus and S&W have, and the sights only the Model 27 has.
- GM, you know I'm awful at IDing revolvers, but I keep looking at pics of M27s and I don't see the resemblance. I'll buy that they're S&Ws (someone else wrote in that they were Colt Detective Specials, and I was never sure myself), but the M27 is an N-frame revolver, and those can't be bigger than K-frame at most.
- I had a feeling it was wrong. I can't find any other revolvers witht he same sights and barrel shrud. My only other guess is it is a Model 19 snub. Is that made in J frames?
- Model 19 is K-frame. The Model 36 was the flagship J-frame at the time. I know things can be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the armorers who worked on the movie wouldn't have told Anthony Wong (actor who plays Johnny Wong) to say ".38" if the prop guns used were .357s. Also, I should point out that the Colt Detective Special in .38 was actually the standard sidearm of the HK Police at the time of this movie (then they started replacing them with Glocks in the mid-90s).
- They're 5-shot revolvers, so they can't be M27s! I don't even think they are S&Ws... they look more like Tauruses. Maybe Model 85?
- I don't think so, the front sights are too short. The ejector shroud wraps around the ejector, which the model 36 doesn't do. And Colts have different cylinder releases and totally different ejector shrouds than S&Ws or Tauruses. I still think it is some type of S&W.
- Yeah, I agree that they're S&W, but they must be J-frame. If they're not M36s, maybe they're M32s?
Thompson Center Arms Contender
The Thompson Center Arms Contender single-shot pistol is used by Philip Kwok as Mad Dog when Tequila and Alan raid Johnny Wong's arsenal.
CZ-75
The Czech CZ-75 is used by many of Johnny Wong's thugs throughout the movie, including Philip Kwok as Mad Dog during the hospital shootout. Mad Dog sets his down in the hospital shootout when he prepares to fight Alan hand-to-hand.
Glock 17
Glock 17s pistols are used by several of Johnny Wong's thugs throughout the movie. One is being unloaded during an early scene at the arsenal.
Colt CAR-15 variants
A Colt CAR-15 Commando-type rifle is seen being stripped and cleaned by one of Johnny Wong's thugs. Several gangsters and Hong Kong police officers are seen using them throughout the film as well. Most of them appear to be Model 654s and XM177E2s.
Micro Uzi
Another weapon which is commonly seen in the movie is the Micro Uzi machine pistol. The body guard with whom Tequila exchanges gunfire (and finally kills) in the teahouse shootout uses one of these weapons, as do many of Johnny Wong's thugs. Alan uses one in the warehouse scene to execute his old boss's men. And Johnny Wong himself uses one to cut down the patients standing between him and Alan during the hospital shootout before his massacre is stopped by Mad Dog.
Mini-Uzi
A thug at the hospital shoots an officer on the rappel rope with an Mini-Uzi before being gunned down.
Mossberg 590
The Mossberg 590 shotgun makes several appearances in the movie. Tequila gets ahold of one with a Speedfeed stock, which he uses throughout the hospital shootout (in some cases, he manages to kill two bad guys simultaneously with only one shot!) Note: A heatshield and heavy barrel is what makes a 590 a 590 and not a 500, so it is not a "tactical" model.
Mossberg 500 "Cruiser"
Tequila uses a nickel plated Mossberg 500 "Cruiser" shotgun during the shootout in the warehouse. The magazine tube cap clearly shows it is a Mossbeg 500 and not a 590 or a 590 "Compact Cruiser". The heat-shield is genuine to the Crusier, they aren't added to make them "tactical" shotguns.
Remington 870
Compact versions of the Remington 870 shotgun are used by the hitmen sent to kill Alan on his boat. Full-size 870s are also used by the Hong Kong police officers sent to the hospital.
Cobray M11/9
The Cobray M11/9 is used by many of Johnny Wong's thugs in the film. When Johnny Wong's men raid the arms warehouse, many (including Mad Dog) use M11/9s fitted with suppressors. They are noted by their slightly longer receivers. Some have MAC-11-style folding stocks, others don't.
AKMSU
Mad Dog (Philip Kwok) uses an AKMSU compact assault rifle during the scene in the arsenal (with magazines "jungle-taped" together), which he tries to use to kill Tequila and Alan with no regard for the fact that he risks destroying the weapons and ammunition stored in the arsenal. This exact same gun can also be seen in the hands of other thugs in the hospital (which accounts for the fact that all of them also have two mags "jungle-taped" together with red tape), and can also be seen lying on the table in the earlier scene in the arsenal where the guns are being cleaned and prepped.
AKM
Some AKM assault rifles are seen used throughout the film by Johnny Wong's thugs and Hong Kong police officers. Tequila tries to strangle Mad Dog with one, but it switchs to a Poly Tech Legend in alternate shots.
Norinco Type 56
Chinese Norinco Type 56 AK rifles are seen throughout the film, first being loaded into packing crates in Uncle Hoi's arms warehouse, later in the armory, and still later in the hands of Johnny Wong's men.
Norinco Type 56-1
One of the thugs in the hospital uses the folding stock version of the Norinco Type 56, the Type 56-1.
Poly Tech Legend AK-47
A modern copy of a genuine AK-47 is seen briefly switching with the AKM Tequila chokes Mad Dog with. Noted by its open sights, regular muzzle break, and .75" sight.
- Not so sure. You might be right, but you can see it still has the plastic pistol grip. Regular AK-47s, PT Legends and Type 56s all don't have those; they just have the regular wood grips.
M16A1
The M16A1 makes several appearances in the movie, in the hands of Johnny Wong's men as well as the Hong Kong police officers who arrive at the hospital scene. Mad Dog uses an M16A1 fitted with an M203 grenade launcher in the hospital shootout, which he uses effectively against the Hong Kong SDU as well as Alan and Tequila.
M203
Mad Dog's M16A1 is fitted with an M203 grenade launcher.
Calico M960
A Calico M960 submachine gun is used by Alan during the hospital shootout.
Heckler & Koch MP5A3
The Heckler & Koch MP5A3 appears numerous times in the movie, mostly in the hands of Johnny Wong's thugs. Tequila uses one during his one-man assault on the warehouse (firing it at Johnny Wong's men as he repels down from the roof of the warehouse), and both Tequila and Alan use an MP5A3 during the hospital shootout. MP5A3s are also used by the Hong Kong SDU (Special Duties Unit) team which is deployed in the hospital.
Heckler & Koch MP5K
The smaller MP5K also appears in the film, used by both Johnny Wong's thugs and the Hong Kong SDU team.
Beretta PM12S
The Beretta PM12S is used by at least one of Johnny Wong's thugs during the hospital shootout.
Kimel AP-9
A Kimel AP-9 is used by one of Johnny Wong's thugs who gets shot by Teresa Chang after he slaps her during the hospital shootout.
Jatimatic
A Jatimatic submachine gun is among the weapons visible on the table in Johnny Wong's arsenal during the scene where his henchmen are working on the guns.
Ruger Super Redhawk
A stainless Ruger Super Redhawk .44 magnum with Nikon scope(usually standard with the gun, but more commonly stainless) and a 9.5" barrel is seen sitting under the Jatamatic.
Steyr AUG
A Steyr AUG A1 assault rifle can be seen on the table in Johnny Wong's arsenal (with the barrel/forward grip unscrewed and lying nearby).
Heckler & Koch G3A3
A Heckler & Koch G3A3 rifle can be seen on the table in the arsenal. It might also be an HK91A2, but the rifle clearly has green furniture, and I'm pretty sure the HK91 was never available with this option (from the factory, at least). This same rifle is seen later sitting on a crate when Alan and Tequila raid the arsenal.
Mossberg M500 Bullpup
The Mossberg 500 Bullpup is used by several of Johnny Wong's thugs during the hospital scene.
Norinco Type 86
One of the more unusual weapons to appear in the film is the Norinco Type 86, a Chinese-manufactured bullpup version of the AK-47/AKM. It is used by many of Johnny Wong's thugs during the hospital scene.
DAO-12 "Street Sweeper" shotgun
At the end of the film, Johnny Wong is seen wielding a DAO-12 "Street Sweeper" (an American copy of the South African-made Armscor Striker) shotgun in the hospital showdown, which he uses first to kill Mad Dog for disobeying orders, and then to shoot at Alan and Tequila.
Heckler & Koch P7
In the final confrontation of the movie, Johnny Wong comes out of the hospital holding Alan hostage with a Heckler & Koch P7 pistol (either the M8 or the higher-capacity M13). He is killed by Tequila, who shoots him through his eye with a Colt Detective Special when Alan distracts him.
M60E3
An M60E3 light machine gun is seen atop a crate in Johnny Wong's arsenal.
M72 LAW
When the police surround the hospital, several of Johnny Wong's thugs begin firing at their cruisers with M72 LAW rocket launchers. Many of these launchers are also seen on racks in the arsenal.