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This [[John Wayne]] film has the distinction of being one of the few movies made about the Vietnam War while the war was actually going on. It also has the somewhat more dubious honour of being the only (somewhat) pro-Vietnam War film of the era. | This [[John Wayne]] film has the distinction of being one of the few movies made about the Vietnam War while the war was actually going on. It also has the somewhat more dubious honour of being the only (somewhat) pro-Vietnam War film of the era. | ||
== Captured Weapons Display == | |||
[[Image:Gb1.JPG]] | |||
At the beginning of the film, when a group of civilians and reporters are being briefed about the capabilities of the U.S. Army Special Forces a number of captured weapons are seen on a display board behind the two U.S. Army sergeants, they include: | |||
== [[MAT-49]] == | |||
This French designed submachine gun was used widely throughout(then)French Indo-China with a great deal of them being left behind after the defeat at Dien Bien Phu. The weapon displayed here could be a locally manufactured copy which chambered the 7.62,, Tokarev round. | |||
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|300px]] | |||
== [[Thompson]] == | |||
Also seen on the board is what appears to be a stockless M1928A1 [[Thompson]] submachine gun. However this could have been a locally manufactured copy since the VC were, by all accounts, quite adept at manufacturing small arms to serve their needs (at least in the early days of the war). | |||
[[Image:Arm173.jpg|400px]] | |||
== [[SKS Carbine]] == | |||
This popular (though somewhat erratic) Russian semi-automatic rifle is also on display although it could very well be a Chinese Type 56 which is a virtual clone of it's Russian parent. | |||
[[Image:SKS Flickr.jpg|400px]] | |||
== [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43 Submachine Gun]] == | |||
This ubiquitous Russian submachine gun is also seen on the captured weapons display but, like the SKS above it could very well be a Chinese clone. | |||
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg]] | |||
== [[Unknown Revolver]] == | |||
Though it is never clearly seen a revolver is displayed on the weapons board. Keeping in the theme of abandoned French weaponry it could very well have been ''St. Etienne Model 1892'' revolver in 8mm. | |||
[[Image:French1892.jpg|400px]] | |||
== [[Unknown Semi-Auto Pistol]] == | |||
Another weapon on the board is a small (relative to the other weapons) semi-automatic pistol. | |||
== [[Unknown Double Barrel Shotgun]] == | |||
The Airborne Colonel who shoots skeet with [[John Wayne]](and who was the real commander of the Airborne School at ''Fort Benning'' Georgia where the film was shot) uses an unknown over-under double barrel shotgun. | |||
[[Image:Gb2.JPG]] | |||
== [[Remington Model 1100]] == | |||
Wayne uses this semi-auto shotgun while shooting skeet. It could very well be a [[Remington Model 870]] but Wayne never pumps the action to clear the spent shell which is seen being ejected from the weapon. | |||
[[Image:1100sporting20.jpg|400px]] [[Image:Gb3.JPG]] | |||
==[[M16 rifle series]]== | ==[[M16 rifle series]]== | ||
In real life the U.S. Army Special Forces were one of the first units to actively field the M-16 in combat. In the movie Wayne's ''troops'' carry early model M-16A1 rifles noted by the presence of a forward bolt assist with the early model three prong flash suppressor. | |||
[[Image:M16a1.jpg|400px]] [[Image:Gb5.JPG|300px]] | |||
Later in the movie Wayne is seen dramatically smashing the M-16 of one of his men against a tree after he is killed fighting 3 VC on his own. Thing is, if you look carefully, the "weapon" is actually a ''Mattel M-16 Marauder'', a toy gun manufactured in the 1960's. | |||
[[Image:Gb9.JPG|300px]] | |||
== [[M-6E3 Weapons System]] == | |||
This system, consisting of two double sets of [[M-60 machine gun]]s (the M-60C version) mounted above 8 shot rocket pods is seen attached to a UH-1 "Huey" (probably a C or D model) gunship in the movie. | |||
[[Image:Gb4.JPG]] | |||
== [[Browning M3 Anti Aircraft machine gun]] == | |||
Seen mounted on tripods throughout the A Camp is this (slightly) lighter version of the venerable [[Browning M2]] easily denoted by the full length ventilated barrel shroud. | |||
[[Image:Browning-M3A.jpg|400px]] [[Image:Gb6.JPG]] | |||
== [[Browning M1919]] == | |||
Also used in the defence of the A Camp is this classic general purpose machine gun. | |||
[[Image:M1919A4Browning.jpg|400px]] [[Image:Gb12.JPG]] | |||
''Note the M1919 in the upper right corner of the pic'' | |||
== [[GE M134 Minigun]] == | |||
Seen in the interior of ''Puff The Magic Dragon'' (a name bestowed on most early USAF gunships) are a pair of these devastating weapons. | |||
[[Image:Minigun2.jpg|400px]] [[Image:Gb8.JPG|400px]] | |||
== [[M79 grenade launcher]] == | |||
Glimpsed briefly (though never actually fired) in the movie is one of the U.S.'s more reliable light support weapons. | |||
[[Image:Sam79.jpg]] [[Image:Gb7.JPG]] | |||
== [[M1 Carbine]] == | |||
Seen mainly in the hands of the ''ARVN'' troopers as well as the U.S. Navy "''Seabees''" is this lightweight U.S. rifle although some are seen being carried by the ''VC''. | |||
[[Image: | [[Image:M1-Carbine.jpg|400px]] [[Image:Gb15.JPG]] | ||
== | == [[M1 Garand]] == | ||
Seen in the hands of the ''ARVN'' troops as well as some ''VC'' is the all time classic U.S. battle rifle. | |||
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|400px]] [[Image:Gb10.JPG|400px]] | |||
== | == [[M18A1 Claymore]] == | ||
This standard (and extremely devastating) U.S. anti-personnel mine makes a brief appearance in the film though the "mine" displayed is clearly a training model given its' blue colouring. | |||
[[Image:M18a1 07.jpg|300px]] [[Image:Gb11.JPG|400px]] | |||
''It should be noted that, other than the "captured weapons display", there is no explicit section discussing "enemy" weapons due to the fact that this movie was actually filmed at Fort Benning Georgia in the U.S. and a great many of the VC were actually U.S. army personnel hired as extras. In addition, at the time, Eastern bloc weapons were not as readily available to U.S. movie makers as they are today so, undoubtedly, the producers had to make do with what they had.'' | |||
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Revision as of 03:12, 14 August 2008
This John Wayne film has the distinction of being one of the few movies made about the Vietnam War while the war was actually going on. It also has the somewhat more dubious honour of being the only (somewhat) pro-Vietnam War film of the era.
Captured Weapons Display
At the beginning of the film, when a group of civilians and reporters are being briefed about the capabilities of the U.S. Army Special Forces a number of captured weapons are seen on a display board behind the two U.S. Army sergeants, they include:
MAT-49
This French designed submachine gun was used widely throughout(then)French Indo-China with a great deal of them being left behind after the defeat at Dien Bien Phu. The weapon displayed here could be a locally manufactured copy which chambered the 7.62,, Tokarev round.
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Thompson
Also seen on the board is what appears to be a stockless M1928A1 Thompson submachine gun. However this could have been a locally manufactured copy since the VC were, by all accounts, quite adept at manufacturing small arms to serve their needs (at least in the early days of the war).
SKS Carbine
This popular (though somewhat erratic) Russian semi-automatic rifle is also on display although it could very well be a Chinese Type 56 which is a virtual clone of it's Russian parent.
PPSh-41 / PPSh-43 Submachine Gun
This ubiquitous Russian submachine gun is also seen on the captured weapons display but, like the SKS above it could very well be a Chinese clone.
Unknown Revolver
Though it is never clearly seen a revolver is displayed on the weapons board. Keeping in the theme of abandoned French weaponry it could very well have been St. Etienne Model 1892 revolver in 8mm.
Unknown Semi-Auto Pistol
Another weapon on the board is a small (relative to the other weapons) semi-automatic pistol.
Unknown Double Barrel Shotgun
The Airborne Colonel who shoots skeet with John Wayne(and who was the real commander of the Airborne School at Fort Benning Georgia where the film was shot) uses an unknown over-under double barrel shotgun.
Remington Model 1100
Wayne uses this semi-auto shotgun while shooting skeet. It could very well be a Remington Model 870 but Wayne never pumps the action to clear the spent shell which is seen being ejected from the weapon.
Error creating thumbnail: File missing 
M16 rifle series
In real life the U.S. Army Special Forces were one of the first units to actively field the M-16 in combat. In the movie Wayne's troops carry early model M-16A1 rifles noted by the presence of a forward bolt assist with the early model three prong flash suppressor.
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Later in the movie Wayne is seen dramatically smashing the M-16 of one of his men against a tree after he is killed fighting 3 VC on his own. Thing is, if you look carefully, the "weapon" is actually a Mattel M-16 Marauder, a toy gun manufactured in the 1960's.
Error creating thumbnail: File missing
M-6E3 Weapons System
This system, consisting of two double sets of M-60 machine guns (the M-60C version) mounted above 8 shot rocket pods is seen attached to a UH-1 "Huey" (probably a C or D model) gunship in the movie.
Browning M3 Anti Aircraft machine gun
Seen mounted on tripods throughout the A Camp is this (slightly) lighter version of the venerable Browning M2 easily denoted by the full length ventilated barrel shroud.
Error creating thumbnail: File missing 
Browning M1919
Also used in the defence of the A Camp is this classic general purpose machine gun.
Error creating thumbnail: File missing 
Note the M1919 in the upper right corner of the pic
GE M134 Minigun
Seen in the interior of Puff The Magic Dragon (a name bestowed on most early USAF gunships) are a pair of these devastating weapons.
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M79 grenade launcher
Glimpsed briefly (though never actually fired) in the movie is one of the U.S.'s more reliable light support weapons.
M1 Carbine
Seen mainly in the hands of the ARVN troopers as well as the U.S. Navy "Seabees" is this lightweight U.S. rifle although some are seen being carried by the VC.
Error creating thumbnail: File missing 
M1 Garand
Seen in the hands of the ARVN troops as well as some VC is the all time classic U.S. battle rifle.
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M18A1 Claymore
This standard (and extremely devastating) U.S. anti-personnel mine makes a brief appearance in the film though the "mine" displayed is clearly a training model given its' blue colouring.
It should be noted that, other than the "captured weapons display", there is no explicit section discussing "enemy" weapons due to the fact that this movie was actually filmed at Fort Benning Georgia in the U.S. and a great many of the VC were actually U.S. army personnel hired as extras. In addition, at the time, Eastern bloc weapons were not as readily available to U.S. movie makers as they are today so, undoubtedly, the producers had to make do with what they had.