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:Well, not overly. It's really just a handgun round, ballistically it's similar to a 200 grain .45ACP - and the flat-nosed bullets give it a lower ballistic coefficient, which means velocity will drop faster and the trajectory will be more curved. The contemporary 56-56 Spencer round was actually alot better, as it approached the effectiveness of a muzzle-loading .58 cal Springfield. It's worth noting that alot of the Western-era rifles, for which the Henry really set the pattern, were at the time called carbines, regardless of barrel length, because they fired what were really handgun rounds. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] | :Well, not overly. It's really just a handgun round, ballistically it's similar to a 200 grain .45ACP - and the flat-nosed bullets give it a lower ballistic coefficient, which means velocity will drop faster and the trajectory will be more curved. The contemporary 56-56 Spencer round was actually alot better, as it approached the effectiveness of a muzzle-loading .58 cal Springfield. It's worth noting that alot of the Western-era rifles, for which the Henry really set the pattern, were at the time called carbines, regardless of barrel length, because they fired what were really handgun rounds. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] | ||
::So why were these and the Winchester 1866 popular? Was it just about capacity and rate of fire? | ::So why were these and the Winchester 1866 popular? Was it just about capacity and rate of fire? | ||
:Sure. Bear in mind the Henry was popularised in the Civil War. A regiment with Henrys would be outranged by a Confederate unit with Enfields or Springfields, but once that distance was closed they would have a huge firepower advantage, enough to break up the formation. On the civilian side, 15 shots was a huge advantge over the muzzle-loaders previously available, and the reality is that not many hubters will ever take a shot at more than 150 yards, espescially in the era before scopes were popularised. Actual rifle caliber repeaters (the Spencer aside, though calling it rifle caliber is a bit of grey area) didn't hit the market until 1876 with the Winchester 76, and there wasn't a really successful one until the Winchester 1886. It's alot easier to build a repeater to handle a handgun cartridge - it makes the gun smaller, it doesn't have to be as strong and won't be subjected to as much force, making it alot more reliable. - [[User:Nyles|Nyles]] | |||
Revision as of 17:19, 19 August 2010
How effective is the .44 Rimfire? From what I've read it seems it is almost useless beyond 100 yards.
- Well, not overly. It's really just a handgun round, ballistically it's similar to a 200 grain .45ACP - and the flat-nosed bullets give it a lower ballistic coefficient, which means velocity will drop faster and the trajectory will be more curved. The contemporary 56-56 Spencer round was actually alot better, as it approached the effectiveness of a muzzle-loading .58 cal Springfield. It's worth noting that alot of the Western-era rifles, for which the Henry really set the pattern, were at the time called carbines, regardless of barrel length, because they fired what were really handgun rounds. - Nyles
- So why were these and the Winchester 1866 popular? Was it just about capacity and rate of fire?
- Sure. Bear in mind the Henry was popularised in the Civil War. A regiment with Henrys would be outranged by a Confederate unit with Enfields or Springfields, but once that distance was closed they would have a huge firepower advantage, enough to break up the formation. On the civilian side, 15 shots was a huge advantge over the muzzle-loaders previously available, and the reality is that not many hubters will ever take a shot at more than 150 yards, espescially in the era before scopes were popularised. Actual rifle caliber repeaters (the Spencer aside, though calling it rifle caliber is a bit of grey area) didn't hit the market until 1876 with the Winchester 76, and there wasn't a really successful one until the Winchester 1886. It's alot easier to build a repeater to handle a handgun cartridge - it makes the gun smaller, it doesn't have to be as strong and won't be subjected to as much force, making it alot more reliable. - Nyles