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::It's a Franken-rifle. It has an A1 upper receiver, an SP1 lower receiver, and an A2 heavy barrel. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC) | ::It's a Franken-rifle. It has an A1 upper receiver, an SP1 lower receiver, and an A2 heavy barrel. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 03:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Yeah, I'm gonna say frankengun, too. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] 10:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Revision as of 10:50, 6 August 2010
This is one of those hard series since pictures are hard to find and I'm not a master of screenshots.
I like to keep the format I've set for the photos of M4s and MP5Ks the way it is because there were a lot of photos and I think the current format for those are appealing.
Beretta Cheetah or SIG-Sauer? (updated 8/4/10)
I've added some pics and it looks more like a SIG. Mack also mentions in the episode that she's carrying a .45 instead of 9mm. --Ben41 04:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Look at the last pic. Thats a SIG for sure. Looks like Jack Bauers SIG from the first few seasons of 24.
What does this look like? Cause someone say it's a Cheetah. Cause it looks like a USP Excalibur01
- Looks like a Beretta Cheetah in the cap and looked like one last time I watched the episode (which wasn't that long ago). It's too round and curvy to be a USP, which is square and blocky. Spartan198 16:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Then we have a continuity error in the dialogue. In the same episode where she used this gun, Mack asked why is she using a .45 than a 9? Excalibur01 18:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Either that or it's implying her back-up is a larger caliber than her primary (a choice which doesn't make sense to me, either). Maybe just a script error or a moment of miscommunication between the armorer and director/writer/etc.? Heck, maybe the director just liked the Cheetah more? Who knows really. Spartan198 00:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Her back up is a Derringer gun. Excalibur01
- Oh yeah, now I remember. This scene is one of the more ridiculous ones in the show. Basically, Redcap empties her Cheetah into the soldier's body armor, kicks away his M4 but ignores the fact that the guy has a sidearm, drops the empty magazine from her gun with the guy staring straight up at her, then gets on the radio without reloading her gun first. I literally screamed "you idiot" at the TV. Spartan198 16:23, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- It was obviously on purpose for the script so she can bust out her back up. And about that episode, the rest of the unit had encountered at least 2 enemies with M4s and extra ammo, yet it never shows them picking up enemy weapons. They were running out during that last stand. That one bad guy's M4 would have been very useful right about then. Excalibur01
Look at the last pic. Thats a SIG for sure. Looks like Jack Bauers SIG from the first few seasons of 24.
- Yeah, now that you mention it, it does look like a SIG. P245 maybe by the squared trigger guard? Spartan198 10:06, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
Probably Hard Shots to find
I only saw the first episode of this show and if memory serves me right, one guy went quail hunting with a pump shotgun (870 I believe) and then was held up by a man with a Mini-14 which I think had a 30 or 40 round magazine. Since the first episode isn't easy to find on the computer, I'm assuming this shot would be difficult to come by unless someone owns the first season on DVD. -GM
- That wasn't the first episode. It was another episode of the first season. I do remember that scene and will find shots of that eventually.
- Saw another episode one day were everyone was holed up in this house and one guy outside was shooting at BGs with a Browning M2 mocked up as a DShK. Sorry I can't help further but I don't watch it enough to describe further. Lot of good shots of M4A1s too. - Gunmaster45
On the page, it said that Mack had a Kimber Warrior, can someone upload some pictures of that? Dirtdiver 6421 19:46, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
The Televised pictures of the Kimber Warrior doesnt look like a real Warrior. First, there is no laynard loop on the bottom of the grip. Second, the finish on the nose is showing some silver, and the KimPro finish doesnt wear like that. Could the show actually use a TLE/RL or maybe a SWAT edition. Spades of Columbia
TLE was used for a few seasons, then switched to the Warrior. Mack uses a normal 1911 most of the time in the newer seasons. i do remember one episode. i dont recall the name, but i believe it was called "Stress". the one were their in africa and find a terrorist. i think Hector had one. and so did Jonas. if at all possible, can someone please add a couple of them that Mack uses them? Dirtdiver6421 01:08, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
The SWAT custom one doesn't have the rail for optics Excalibur01 04:35, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Size of pics
I am not sure of the so called "format" of this site but I like the format of the M4 and MP5K section and how it's arranged and want to keep it that way. Also some pics are larger than others. The reason is that if they are smaller than 600 then they would look distorted. This didn't really happen in the old server. but for here I had to make them larger to they won't look so you can't seen any pixal on them. The larger size gives the photos smoother looks.
Not a mk 12
If someone has a better name to call it, then correct it. Saying it isn't something else isn't helping in identifying what the sniper rifle is.
Eat your Hard Boiled out
The Unit section now beats even Hard Boiled with over 60+ guns counted
- Nice work, now I can only say that Hard Boiled is the largest movie page. To be fair though, a T.V. show can grow, a movie stays still but anyway, great work.
- Yeah, nice job. I honestly have to admit that I don't have the patience to do TV show pages just cause they tend to feature lots of guns over the course of several seasons (especially a weapons-heavy military show like The Unit). Plus, I rarely buy entire seasons of TV shows.
- Well It was hard to track down the previous season since links to them have poor connection. I had considered renting the DVDs. Either way, this show has an impressive array of firearms and it isn't stopping in what the Unit shoots next.
Rearrange of Garand, Winchester, and SKS
Recently the SKS, M1 Garand and the Winchester 1886 was moved to "other weapons" because they don't fit either section of Assault rifle nor sniper rifle. Hence they would be placed in the same section as the musket rifle would be since they are dated weapons.
That´s a L1A1 SLR
judging by the handguards and the front sight,that´s a L1A1.
- It's still a FAL
Two nit picks...
The derringer that Jonas carries in while wearing the tux looks like a High Standard Derringer. These were double action, tip down, .22 magnum as opposed to the single action, tip up, .41 rimfire of the original Remington design.
Also, the lever action noted as a Winchester 1886 looks more like a Marlin 336. The 1886's bolt occupied most of the center of the upper reciever, while the Marlin has a round bolt with the ejection port on the right side of the reciever. In the pic, you can see the silver, circular section right in front of the hammer, which is the bolt.
http://www.outdoorsurvivalinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/start1_med1.jpg
Great site, thanks for all the trouble! Doug K
SU-16
The keltec su-16 page says one was used in the show and i dont see it here. Anyone know where it was used? -K9870
- I don't see an SU-16. Anyone know which episode this supposively have appeared in? Excalibur01 19:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
R.I.P.
Just read over on Imdb that The Unit has been canceled by CBS. Bummer. --Jcordell 00:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
- From what I can see, the cancellation hasn't been decided on yet. But piss on CBS if they do. The Unit is the only show I look forward to every week. Spartan198 10:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC) Spartan198
- CBS canceled Jericho and then they canceled The Unit. That network just sucks. Excalibur01 18:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
- Tell me about it. Two of the best shows in CBS history right there and they're more concerned with "reality" shows like Survivor (which, BTW, are actually filmed on sound stages and not in tropical jungles and whatnot). Spartan198 16:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
Need help ID'ing AR-15 Variant.
As seen here: [[1]]. I'm pretty sure it's not a HK416, M4, or CQBR. If I had to guess I'd say it's a Model 933, but I'm no expert on AR-15s. Any help would be much appreciated.
- Looks like a 933 or equivalent to me. Spartan198
I guess it is. Time for another update. Excalibur01 02:58, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Optics w/ BUIS an anachronism?
How is having BUISs on an optic-equipped weapon an anachronism when military and police commonly use said combo? Hell, even the Barrett 82 has BUISs. No offense to whoever made that statement, but it's gotta be one of the most ridiculous ones I've ever read. Spartan198
- Wait, where is this said on the page? Excalibur01 02:59, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- Originally at the top of the Colt 933 section, but it's not there anymore. Spartan198
Breaking up pages
This page is getting too big to add any more items. I would like to break it up into different pages, creating new pages by weapons like the page is now and linking them to the original page. Has anyone else already started this? Ben41
- No offense, but screw that. Why break up a page just because it has too many guns? I mean have you seen Miami Vice? Mail Call? Hard boil? Those are pretty big pages too. I don't need to break up my page so that it is easier on your eyes. It's a waste of space and all it that pistol page has done was just waste space on the server. And what do you mean "too big to add anymore items?" There's no limit on how many guns you can put on a page as long as it has been shown on the show. Excalibur01 19:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- However, Miami Vice was broken up into seasons because it took too long for the page to load or it crashed completely. The Unit doesn't have that problem, so I don't see a need to break it up. I do disagree about "there being no limit to adding to a page". the Miami Vice tv show is a prime example of a page getting so big it becomes unviewable to 99% of the potential users (unless someone has lightning fast internet connection and large RAM, which most people don't have. But I have no problems loading the Unit page, so I was mystified by the breakup. MPM2008
- If the Unit gets more seasons down the road with 10 times more guns, then I'll happily break it up. Excalibur01 13:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Here's hoping someone wises up and gives us a couple more seasons. Spartan198 10:21, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Small size caps?
Who turned all my caps from my standard 500x to this small size? It's ungodly small for a page like this. Excalibur01 19:38, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- I think the user thought that shrinking the thumbnails would speed up the loading time. It doesn't. The page still has to re-size whatever the size of the original image is. Also IMFDB's standard is 500px or 600px (for ultra widescreen or high resolution shots). Again we still need a rules page, to tell the new users what the page standards are. MoviePropMaster2008 20:26, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Breaking up pages (cont.)
If you go into the edit page, it gives a warning that the page is over 32kb and recommends that it should be broken up into different pages, but it looks like you want to keep it the way it is. So go ahead and delete the page with just the pistols on it. Ben41
- It's at 42kb. Not much larger than recommended. Miami Vice was at 93kb, before it was broken up. Season 1 and 2 are at 40kb apiece. Load time is not bad on The Unit. --Predator20 23:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
- Then I'll get rid of unnecessary gun caps. Excalibur01 13:48, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
- Is the Season 4 DVD box art really necessary? Spartan198 10:25, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, because I put it up as a featured article. --Ben41 08:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
CM203 entry added
I just got Season 4 on DVD, so I figured I'd jump at the chance and get caps of those Cobrays used in S4E7/8. I only took caps of them in episode 7, though, as I figured that was sufficient enough documentation for the article. Spartan198 07:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Like all armories for film and TV series, these would most likely be Cobray 37mm flare launchers that were designed to look like M203s. This is a common practice to have the appearance of 203s. It is unlikely any of the M203s seen in the series are real M203s.
- While that could be the case, the second picture of Blane show that it is an M203, the the C37. But, with the advancement of m203s and RIS systems, a soldier could simply slide on an m203. So, it could also be an airsoft replica if its never fired. The Winchester
- The only episodes I recall seeing Cobrays in are S4E7/8. Spartan198 19:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC) Spartan198
Brixia 8mm Walther Blank Firing Pistol
In the story. Jonas took 2 of these out as a hidden weapon that he kept within a rat trap. He handed on to is wife before he made a disappearing act. I guess in story it's supposed to resemble a Walther TP or TPH.
I don't know dude...these look a lot like the Walther PP or PPK to me. If these images are from the episode I am thinking of (the finale of Season 1) my reaction, at the time, was "why is Joans carrying such a weak ass pistol as his sidearm???".
Nah, the Walthers don't have that little extra piece of metal extending from the trigger guard to the barrel. But, then again...
- It looks like a Walther PSM. It's like a PPK but with an extended trigger guard. Hammer looks like it too. -GM
- What is a Walther PSM? Did you mean Walther TP or TPH? PSM is a Russian pistol made by Izhevsk.
- That is a Brixia 8mm Walther Blank Firing Pistol. I just checked the lower image against the one I have. Brixia Arms used to make this type of blank gun about 10 years ago, but their quality was pretty bad. There 'might' be some available, but the majority of the 8mm theatrical blank firing PPKs on the market now are made by Kimar or Voltran. What tips it off, is the writing on the slide (it is identical to the markings on my Brixia Nickel plated Walther PPK theatrical blank gun) and the hole drilled in the top of the barrel (where the ejection port is). This hole allows the flash from the blank round to fire upwards since the barrel is blocked. Also the magazine is a thin single stack type that only holds those skinny 8mm blank rounds. ____MoviePropMaster2008
M60E4
I put this pic here because I think it's copyrighted.--Ben41 08:36, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
number 3 biggest?
ok both this and stargate SG-1 page both say that they are the 3rd biggest --Armyguy277 02:14, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
The Unit is number 3, by my count there are about 40 more weapons. It's also about twice the physical size (KB) if that matters at all. --Crazycrankle 02:33, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
933 RIS?
What is this RIS?
Looks like DD Mk.18 RIS II but I'm not sure.
Looks more like a Yankee Hill rail. [2]
--Lynx 04:19, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Unknown M16
I've uploaded another screencap of the M16 Bob carries in "Natural Selection."
It's hard to tell since Scott Foley's thumb is in the way, but it appears that this rifle does not have a brass deflector, which would mean that it is not a Model 715 as has been suggested. Is there any official designation for this weapon (A1 sights, no brass deflector, A2 handguards and heavy barrel profile) or is simply a frankengun? --Lynx 01:17, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- None that I know of. I've never seen or heard of that configuration before. Spartan198 10:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
- It's a Franken-rifle. It has an A1 upper receiver, an SP1 lower receiver, and an A2 heavy barrel. -MT2008 03:25, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm gonna say frankengun, too. Spartan198 10:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Five Brothers
Why would the team have LAMs on their weapons in a 100% CQB op? when it would make more sense to have a tac-light?
You mean the PEQs they got attached? Maybe the missions required them to use them when they get outside. Who knows, they do this all the time. Excalibur01 02:33, 6 August 2010 (UTC)