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::I don't agree. The front sight is OPEN not the chinese closed hooded sight. I've look at it from several angles and it is an AKM open sight. Also check your PMs. I listed several other strong points which indicate that it is NOT a Type 84 nor ever was. The irrefutable proof is the front sight (which is an AKM style) and the fact that you can't see the 2nd notch hole that would be on the barrel if it originally had a type 84 sight and the gas block (which has metal pieces indicating that the front sling swivel is attached), this gun does not. | ::I don't agree. The front sight is OPEN not the chinese closed hooded sight. I've look at it from several angles and it is an AKM open sight. Also check your PMs. I listed several other strong points which indicate that it is NOT a Type 84 nor ever was. The irrefutable proof is the front sight (which is an AKM style) and the fact that you can't see the 2nd notch hole that would be on the barrel if it originally had a type 84 sight and the gas block (which has metal pieces indicating that the front sling swivel is attached), this gun does not. | ||
To clarify my remarks (which might be hard to follow being that I'm not the best typist) I have included an image which details what I was discussing. I ran out and took a closeup shot of one of the Type 84s in inventory. Many of these were 'converted' to resemble AK74s back in the day and haven't been configured back to original spec yet. Notice how the finely machine and blued finish of the original Type 84 contrasts with the 'rough' machined and spray painted AKM replacement front sight. After the 1980s, the fit and finish of AK and SKS guns just went down the tubes, IMHO. | |||
Anyway, you can see the 'notch' in the barrel for the pin used to lock down the back half of the Chinese Front Sight. If they converted a Type 84, the notch would be there since all Type 84s were shipped with original Chinese Front Sights. Also note the differences in the Gas block. | |||
[[Image:Type84DetailsA.jpg]] | |||
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Revision as of 21:21, 4 August 2008
Sahara is the 2005 Adventure movie starring Matthew McConaughey, Steve Zahn and Penelope Cruz.
The Following guns were seen in the movie:
FN MAG
- FN MAG-58 Machine guns are seen mounted on trucks and boats, all manned by government troops.
Browning Hi-Power
- Seen in the hands of Govt. Troops and later commandeered by Dirk Pitt (Matthew McConaughey).
Norinco Type 56-1
- The under-folding stock version of the AKS-47, made in China is seen throughout the film. Mostly a mix with other AK types, carried by Government Troops.
Sterling SMG
- Seen held by Touareg horsemen in the desert.
L1A1
- Used by a Mali sniper with a scope, but later commandeered by Al Giordino (Steve Zahn).
PKMS
- Govt. Soldiers are seen holding PKMS Machine Guns (7.62x54R).
Norinco Type 84
Al's rifle during a desert battle is a Norinco Type 84 .223 AK Rifle. The reciever cover has been replaced with an AKM ribbed type instead of smooth chinese types similair to older AKs. The furniture is blonde aftermarket. A similair rifle appears in Casino Royale used by the militia soldiers.
Note: this is NOT a Type 84. Type 84s are blued, this is painted black, the magazine is completely different (it just just like the ROMAK 223 magazine) and the front sight is a European pattern, NOT the Chinese hooded front sight.
- Look at the third screenshot of him leaning over the rifle - that is clearly a hooded front sight. I have never seen a European AK that has that; Chinese AKs (and the Iranian license-built copies of them) are the only ones with that style sight. As far as the magazine goes, Type 84s can take Romak-style magazines. Here's a picture of one:
- The finish is suspicious, but if they went to the trouble of replacing the receiver cover and furniture, maybe they could have re-finished it as well. Or maybe this is some Franken-Kalash variant. But the front sight is definitely Chinese style, so I'm guessing a Type 84 was still the base gun.
- I don't agree. The front sight is OPEN not the chinese closed hooded sight. I've look at it from several angles and it is an AKM open sight. Also check your PMs. I listed several other strong points which indicate that it is NOT a Type 84 nor ever was. The irrefutable proof is the front sight (which is an AKM style) and the fact that you can't see the 2nd notch hole that would be on the barrel if it originally had a type 84 sight and the gas block (which has metal pieces indicating that the front sling swivel is attached), this gun does not.
To clarify my remarks (which might be hard to follow being that I'm not the best typist) I have included an image which details what I was discussing. I ran out and took a closeup shot of one of the Type 84s in inventory. Many of these were 'converted' to resemble AK74s back in the day and haven't been configured back to original spec yet. Notice how the finely machine and blued finish of the original Type 84 contrasts with the 'rough' machined and spray painted AKM replacement front sight. After the 1980s, the fit and finish of AK and SKS guns just went down the tubes, IMHO.
Anyway, you can see the 'notch' in the barrel for the pin used to lock down the back half of the Chinese Front Sight. If they converted a Type 84, the notch would be there since all Type 84s were shipped with original Chinese Front Sights. Also note the differences in the Gas block. File:Type84DetailsA.jpg
