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The most commonly seen gun in the film is the older [[M3 Grease Gun|M3 "Grease Gun"]]. It is not an M3A1 model because the guns clearly have external charging handles on the right side while the M3A1 as divots in the bolt so the bolt can be pinched and pulled back. They also have a much higher rate of fire than the M3A1 model. Prison Military Police guards are seen using them, as well as practically every member of the ''Dirty Dozen'', most notably Major Reisman ([[Lee Marvin]]) during several scenes in basic training. In reality, the Grease Gun was never fielded in such great numbers but was likely the easiest gun for the film armorers to acquire. | The most commonly seen gun in the film is the older [[M3 Grease Gun|M3 "Grease Gun"]]. It is not an M3A1 model because the guns clearly have external charging handles on the right side while the M3A1 as divots in the bolt so the bolt can be pinched and pulled back. They also have a much higher rate of fire than the M3A1 model. Prison Military Police guards are seen using them, as well as practically every member of the ''Dirty Dozen'', most notably Major Reisman ([[Lee Marvin]]) during several scenes in basic training. In reality, the Grease Gun was never fielded in such great numbers but was likely the easiest gun for the film armorers to acquire. | ||
[[Image:M3 Grease.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP.]] | [[Image:M3 Grease.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M3A1 "Grease Gun" - .45 ACP.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px| | [[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Sgt. Clyde Bowren ([[Richard Jaeckel]]) on the right as well as another MP are armed with M3 "Grease Guns".]] | ||
[[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Major Reisman ([[Lee Marvin]]) shoots out the rope under Pedro Jiminez ([[Trini López]]) as he climbs to persuade him to climb faster.]] | [[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Major Reisman ([[Lee Marvin]]) shoots out the rope under Pedro Jiminez ([[Trini López]]) as he climbs to persuade him to climb faster. In the DVD commentary, [[Dale Dye]] mentioned that in reality, the Grease Gun is so inaccurate that it probably would have killed everyone on the platform instead.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Major Reisman ([[Lee Marvin]]) holds an M3 "Grease Gun" with two magazines taped together "Jungle Style" on Col. Everett Dasher Breed ([[Robert Ryan]]) and his men when they come to cancel the training of his men.]] | [[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Major Reisman ([[Lee Marvin]]) holds an M3 "Grease Gun" with two magazines taped together "Jungle Style" on Col. Everett Dasher Breed ([[Robert Ryan]]) and his men when they come to cancel the training of his men.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Roscoe Lever ([[Stuart Cooper]]) takes cover from artillery during the war games while armed with a Grease Gun.]] | [[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Roscoe Lever ([[Stuart Cooper]]) takes cover from artillery during the war games while armed with a Grease Gun.]] | ||
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[[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jefferson ([[Jim Brown]]) also takes out a sniper while firing from the hip.]] | [[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-13.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Jefferson ([[Jim Brown]]) also takes out a sniper while firing from the hip.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"We made it!" Victor Franko ([[John Cassavetes]]) with a Grease Gun before being shot.]] | [[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-14.jpg|thumb|none|600px|"We made it!" Victor Franko ([[John Cassavetes]]) with a Grease Gun before being shot.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franko gets shot by a German soldier with a... Grease Gun?. While the soldier could have captured this gun(as some did during | [[Image:DDM3GreaseGun-15.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Franko gets shot by a German soldier with a... Grease Gun?. While the soldier could have captured this gun (as some did during WWII), it is likely they mixed it up with the MP40 he should be using.]] | ||
==M1 Garand== | ==M1 Garand== | ||
While the [[M1 Garand]] was the most heavily fielded weapon of the U.S. Military during WWII, it is seen somewhat scarcely in the film, mainly in the hands of M&Ps and some of the members of the ''Dirty Dozen'' during the war games. | While the [[M1 Garand]] was the most heavily fielded weapon of the U.S. Military during WWII, it is seen somewhat scarcely in the film, mainly in the hands of M&Ps and some of the members of the ''Dirty Dozen'' during the war games. | ||
[[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand - .30-06.]] | [[Image:M1 Garand.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1 Garand - .30-06.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM1Garand-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An | [[Image:DDM1Garand-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MP on guard with an M1 Garand.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM1Garand-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Col. Everett Dasher Breed ([[Robert Ryan]]) line up armed with M1 Garands.]] | [[Image:DDM1Garand-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Col. Everett Dasher Breed ([[Robert Ryan]]) line up armed with M1 Garands.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM1Garand-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of Breed's men.]] | [[Image:DDM1Garand-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of Breed's men.]] | ||
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When Reisman's men dissarm Breed's men, one of them is seen armed with a paratrooper folding stock [[M1 Carbine|M1A1 Carbine]]. | When Reisman's men dissarm Breed's men, one of them is seen armed with a paratrooper folding stock [[M1 Carbine|M1A1 Carbine]]. | ||
[[Image:M1A1carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1A1 Carbine - .30 Carbine.]] | [[Image:M1A1carbine.jpg|thumb|none|400px|M1A1 Carbine - .30 Carbine.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM1A1Carbine-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Reisman's men | [[Image:DDM1A1Carbine-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|One of Reisman's men disarms one of Breed's men of his M1A1 Carbine.]] | ||
==M1911A1== | ==M1911A1== | ||
Several | Several MP's and Major Reisman ([[Lee Marvin]]) are seen with [[M1911A1]] pistols as their sidearms. | ||
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]] | [[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Colt M1911A1 - .45 ACP.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M1911A1 is seen in Reisman's ([[Lee Marvin]]) holster.]] | [[Image:DDM1911A1-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An M1911A1 is seen in Reisman's ([[Lee Marvin]]) holster.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px| | [[Image:DDM1911A1-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|MP Sgt. Clyde Bowren ([[Richard Jaeckel]]), opens his holster when Reisman teachs knife fighting.]] | ||
[[Image:DDM1911A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An | [[Image:DDM1911A1-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MP is seen with an M1911A1 in a holster next to Col. Breed ([[Robert Ryan]]).]] | ||
[[Image:DDM1911A1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An | [[Image:DDM1911A1-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An MP with an M1911A1.]] | ||
==Browning M1919A4== | ==Browning M1919A4== | ||
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==Mk 2 hand grenade== | ==Mk 2 hand grenade== | ||
Several members of the ''Dirty Dozen'' keep [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s hanging on their belts, most | Several members of the ''Dirty Dozen'' keep [[Mk 2 hand grenade]]s hanging on their belts, most notably Robert Jefferson ([[Jim Brown]]) and Archer Maggott ([[Telly Savalas]]). While on the roof, Seth Sawyer ([[Colin Maitland]]) gets stuck after having a leg break through the roof on his way to disable the alarm tower. Immobilized, he throws two Mk 2 grenades at the tower to destroy it instead. When preparing to blow up the mansion, Major Reisman ([[Lee Marvin]]) and his men dump bags of Mk 2 grenades down the vents and then dump gasoline to make the building itself a bomb. | ||
[[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 hand grenade.]] | [[Image:MK2 grenade DoD.jpg|thumb|none|150px|Mk 2 hand grenade.]] | ||
[[Image:DDMk2grenade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mk 2 grenades are seen on Jefferson's ([[Jim Brown]]) belt. Having his magazine pouches on the small of his back makes reloading take longer and is not tactically sound. All the Dozen do this.]] | [[Image:DDMk2grenade-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Mk 2 grenades are seen on Jefferson's ([[Jim Brown]]) belt. Having his magazine pouches on the small of his back makes reloading take longer and is not tactically sound. All the Dozen do this.]] | ||
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[[Image:DDBerettaBobcatSuppressed-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wladislaw ([[Charles Bronson]]) kills a radio operator with the suppressed Beretta Bobcat.]] | [[Image:DDBerettaBobcatSuppressed-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Wladislaw ([[Charles Bronson]]) kills a radio operator with the suppressed Beretta Bobcat.]] | ||
==25 Pounder artillery | ==25 Pounder artillery guns== | ||
During the war games, the Red team fires on the Blue team with British 25 Pounder guns. | During the war games, the Red team fires on the Blue team with British 25 Pounder guns. [[Dale Dye]] mentioned in the DVD commentary that these artillery pieces are more likely used for parades instead of actual combat operations. | ||
[[Image:DDArtillery-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The red team fire the 25 Pounder guns.]] | [[Image:DDArtillery-1.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The red team fire the 25 Pounder guns.]] | ||
[[Image:DDArtillery-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The red team fire the 25 Pounder guns.]] | [[Image:DDArtillery-2.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The red team fire the 25 Pounder guns.]] | ||
Revision as of 10:56, 2 April 2010
The following guns were used in the film The Dirty Dozen:
M3 "Grease Gun"
The most commonly seen gun in the film is the older M3 "Grease Gun". It is not an M3A1 model because the guns clearly have external charging handles on the right side while the M3A1 as divots in the bolt so the bolt can be pinched and pulled back. They also have a much higher rate of fire than the M3A1 model. Prison Military Police guards are seen using them, as well as practically every member of the Dirty Dozen, most notably Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) during several scenes in basic training. In reality, the Grease Gun was never fielded in such great numbers but was likely the easiest gun for the film armorers to acquire.
M1 Garand
While the M1 Garand was the most heavily fielded weapon of the U.S. Military during WWII, it is seen somewhat scarcely in the film, mainly in the hands of M&Ps and some of the members of the Dirty Dozen during the war games.
M1 Carbine
Several of Col. Breed's (Robert Ryan) men are seen armed with M1 Carbines, although they are only in the background.
When Reisman's men dissarm Breed's men, one of them is seen armed with a paratrooper folding stock M1A1 Carbine.
M1911A1
Several MP's and Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) are seen with M1911A1 pistols as their sidearms.
Browning M1919A4
Several times the Browning M1919A4 is used in the film. First it is seen carried in a jeep by the blue team during the war games. Two are used during the assault on the mansion, one used by Roscoe Lever (Stuart Cooper) and Seth Sawyer (Colin Maitland) near the front entrance and the other manned by Tassos Bravos (Al Mancini) to combat the approaching German vehicles.
Mk 2 hand grenade
Several members of the Dirty Dozen keep Mk 2 hand grenades hanging on their belts, most notably Robert Jefferson (Jim Brown) and Archer Maggott (Telly Savalas). While on the roof, Seth Sawyer (Colin Maitland) gets stuck after having a leg break through the roof on his way to disable the alarm tower. Immobilized, he throws two Mk 2 grenades at the tower to destroy it instead. When preparing to blow up the mansion, Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) and his men dump bags of Mk 2 grenades down the vents and then dump gasoline to make the building itself a bomb.
Beretta 21A Bobcat (suppressed)
Joseph Wladislaw (Charles Bronson) is seen using a Beretta 21A Bobcat fitted with a sound suppressor to kill several guards at the gates of the mansion. While inside the mansion, he manages to kill a radio operator with it before leaving it there. Since the Bobcat pistol has a tip open barrel, this makes small acorn .22 blanks easy to load and unload with non-blank converted guns (which this clearly is since it doesn't cycle). This is likely why this gun was chosen since it was not made at the time of WWII.
25 Pounder artillery guns
During the war games, the Red team fires on the Blue team with British 25 Pounder guns. Dale Dye mentioned in the DVD commentary that these artillery pieces are more likely used for parades instead of actual combat operations.
Webley & Scott Flare Pistol
Samson Posey (Clint Walker) fires a Webley & Scott Flare Pistol into the air to signal to the others that the German's have arrived.
Karabiner 98k
German soldiers carry Karabiner 98k rifles during the final shootout at the mansion. Like many WWII films from 1960-1980, the MP40 submachine gun is inaccurately shown as the main weapon of the German army instead of the Kar98k.
Karabiner 98k Sniper
At one point in the film, a German sniper is seen using a Karabiner 98k fitted with a scope (which appears to have infrared vision, which wasn't available on such a small scope at the time) and uses it to kill Milo Vladek (Tom Busby) with a shot between the eyes.
The first German sniper is hilariously seen using an American M1 Garand with the same fake scope mount, likely because of a lack of 7.92mm blanks or firing Kar98k rifles.
MP40
Germans are inaccurately seen armed mainly with MP40 submachine guns.
MG42
Samson Posey (Clint Walker) mans an MG42 to combat the approaching German vehicles. The gun is fitted with a 50 round drum. The same gun is seen mounted on a German vehicle but not clear enough to see.
MG34
An MG34 is seen fired from a German vehicle before members of the Dozen knock it off the bridge with their own vehicle.
Walther P38
When Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) and Joseph Wladislaw (Charles Bronson) infiltrate the German mansion disguised as German officers, they keep Walther P38s as their sidearms and use them to shoot the guards outside the shelter entrance before sealing the people inside.
Luger P08
For some reason as Reisman (Lee Marvin) and Wladislaw (Charles Bronson) leave the underground shelter, their Walther P38s change to Luger P08s.
Unknown German AA gun, probably 40mm Bofors AA gun
When the remaining members of the Dirty Dozen try to escape in an armored vehicle, they look back to see it is towing a German Anti-Aircraft (AA) gun. Victor Franko (John Cassavetes) then jumps off and removes the hitch. The AA gun appears to be a 40mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft gun.
