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I really appreciate you putting in the screen used guns, as I didn't know MPM had gotten pictures of them, but to go and redo all the screenshots, which were arguably worse than mine, was a bit much, and that is why I reverted it. I'll go on the forum and have everyone have their say on which is better. [[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 21:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I really appreciate you putting in the screen used guns, as I didn't know MPM had gotten pictures of them, but to go and redo all the screenshots, which were arguably worse than mine, was a bit much, and that is why I reverted it. I'll go on the forum and have everyone have their say on which is better. [[User:Yournamehere|Yournamehere]] 21:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
I get what you mean about the "VS" thing. If you looked at the comparison pics I threw up, yours did have a better color, Gunman. When it comes to redoing pages other people have worked on and completed, I don't see the point unless it's half-assed, pics missing, or really bad quality. Doing that kind of work could be put to better use on another page that needs help bad. --[[User:Predator20|Predator20]] 23:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Revision as of 23:10, 22 November 2009

Most admins. only react because it is really difficult to find out if an anonymous user is just a vandal or not. And we're talking about a LOT of anonymous users. There's only about 10 or so admins. on this site so it's hard to weed out the bad. BTW, when you leave a message on someone's talk page, add a - (hyphen) and three ~ symbols, so your username will be left on the page, otherwise I have to sift through the page history to figure out who I'm talking to.

Also, I don't recommend you wipe your discussion clean after every chat, sometimes it's good to look back on discussions to remember important things (which is why us admins. have huge discussion pages). - Gunmaster45 (see, I marked my name. On the edit it will show I wrote it out but all I did was type three ~ symbols).

Enforcer Python

I believe it is a Python, since it has a larger frame size than the Diamondback in Magnum Force. I actually had this talk with User:Jcordell recently, and he seems like a pretty big revolver buff, so I'll take his word for it. - Gunmaster45

Vice City

This page needs more pictures like this. Can you get similar pictures for the other weapons? PersonOfInterest

You bet. In fact, since you brought it up, I'm going to do that for all the GTA games. Thanks! Gunman69 20:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

No no, thank YOU good sir. My hat is off to you and your efforts. PersonOfInterest

Much appreciated! :-D

You put the GTA3 rocket launcher in upside down. PersonOfInterest

Yeah, I thought it didn't look right! Thanks, but I'm really not sure how to correct it. Do you know how?

GTA Gun Images

You are using wrong gun models. For example, the 700 picture you put on the GTA III article is the model used in GTA IV not GTA III. Fix That, please.-Oliveira 23:43, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, for some reason, I couldn't upload the Remington pictures. I could only get the GTA IV pictures. I have to find new ones. If you could get me some, that would be awesome! Everything else should fit, however. If you don't think so, tell me which ones you think are wrong. Thanks! -Gunman69 02:33, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
All done. I hope that is sufficient. -Gunman69 03:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Good Work Gunman!-Oliveira 12:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! :-) -Gunman69 16:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: GTA Shotgun

Yeah, i think it is a over and under shotgun. Here is the page: 12 Gauge Double Barreled Shotgun. Look at the second section.-Oliveira 17:13, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Most people have always thought it to be an Ithaca because it functions like a pump shotgun, so that's why I wrote it as an Ithaca, but still wanted confirmation. -Gunman69 17:15, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

RE:

Legal reasons. I'm afraid that that's all I can say at the moment. -MT2008 02:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

That's totally cool. I knew there was a good reason. Just thought I'd ask. -Gunman69 03:13, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hill Street Blues

Thanks for the compliment and all the additional help you've been giving me with the page! I got the first season on DVD for my birthday so I should have those finished in the next two nights or so. Again, thanks for your help IDing the weapons and making the actor pages; your help has been very valuable! Speakeasy804 19:03, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I can never find it on any channel! Also I heard they're only releasing the first two seasons on DVD and so far no word on whether or not there are any plans for the rest of the show but hopefully that'll change! Speakeasy804 20:21, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Re: Miami Vice

Thanks. It will take some time but after a while it will be a nice page. Also I appreciate all the help I can get on it. Predator20 03:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Hulu currently has the first 4 seasons listed. Which pisses me, I bought the dvd's awhile back. Not sure if you can screencap using Hulu. Predator20

Actor Pages

The way you currently make pages is not proper, so I figured I'd shoot you straight. You need to put the actor in two categories [[Category:Actor]] and if they are male [[Category:Actor Male]] or female [[Category:Actor Female]]. After this, you must search the site for every instance of an actor's gun use (look up their name before you make their page and find out what they used in each movie as their name shows up in searched) and list them all. And most importantly, you must add an image of the actor from one of their gun usages. For an example, see Jeffrey Dean Morgan's page for proper format, since we now enforce the use of the new chart template. Thanks. - Gunmaster45

Excellent work. - Gunmaster45

Ruger Mini-14/AC556 pic

I added that pic you uploaded to the Ruger Mini-14 page. That one has the real short barrel, which the rest of the Mini-14 pics don't have. Good stuff. Predator20 18:36, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I saw the Phillip Michael Thomas page, great work. While the Miami Vice page is finally getting some images, it has a long ways to go. I figured I would have some pics of Switek, Zito and Trudy by now. But there haven't been any worthy to put on the page. Predator20 21:41, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: No Exit

I have a snap of it, it's not that great but I'll put it up. Also I got one of a police officer in The Hit List climax I need to put up too. Also Oliviera bitching about a set of quotations pissed me off, he doesn't contribute to the Miami Vice page. I don't see why he is worried about it. He could have added the quote marks himself if it meant so much to him. Predator20 17:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll go back over the episode on take a snap of it. I'm capping "Glades" right now, there's a crap load of guns in it. A S&W 29 too. What pissed me off about the quotations is he went out of his way to point it out. Whenever you or I need to change a text, we don't say "you need to correct that". One of us corrects it and goes on to something else. Predator20 20:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
The Great McCarthy was a waste to even watch. One Beretta Cheetah which Izzey Merino handles, too dark to even use. There are some great guns in Glades. The muzzle loader is fucking cool. I got to get them sorted and numbered. They'll be up soon. Predator20 20:42, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

No screencapping

It seems you can't screencap movies. Let's change that. You are good user and a lot of users don't know how to screencap so i though i would teach you.

Download this:

click

Install it and later on i will show you how to screencap. Install that and we will talk.-Oliveira 20:34, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

If you installed it then open it and you should see maximize (horrible spelling, i know) the window and see the menu. Up on the menu, along side Audio and Playback you should see Video. Click on that and you should see "Snapshot". When you need to screencap, you should pause the video and press "Snapshot". Depending on the DVD though, there could be a small but noticible delay between you pressing the pause button and the video pausing. It can be a problem sometimes but it depends on the DVD. It has nothing to do with the program. Do all that shit.-Oliveira 20:58, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
You should also make a section on your profile where you make a list of movies you want to screencap. Like my profile or Gunmaster's profile.-Oliveira 21:04, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Oliveira, thanks for letting Gunman69 about the VLC player. I though most users already knew about it. A few things that make it easier. Go to View and click on advanced controls, that allows a snapshot button right where the play buttons are. Then go to Tools and click on preferences. Click on video on and set up the folder where you want the snaps to go and change the format to jpeg pics. Predator20 21:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Isn't advanced controls on the "Tools" tab?-Oliveira 21:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Goddamm

You are quick on the trigger, man. Holy shit. It was less 2 hours ago that me and predator teached you how to screencap and now you are screencapping? Damm.-Oliveira 23:01, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Beverly Hills Cop

Great job with Beverly Hills Cop! That page had definitely needed to be redone and you've certainly done it justice! Speakeasy804 03:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Miami Vice

Are you working on just season 2? I'm about to cap Golden Triangle and don't want to be stepping over each other. Or just let me know what episodes you're going to do so I can skip over it. I'll do the same. Predator20 17:54, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good, get it done quicker. Also Oliveira is freaking out about your spelling of "Colombian". Look at recent changes on the main page and see what he wrote. Predator20 18:26, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I hate those 1 picture episodes. You already made it to episode 17. I thought I was fast going through a season, I'm on episode 16 Rites of Passage. It was really great that you went through most of season 2. I can only work on the page in the evenings during the week. So I figure I can finish up the rest of season 1 through the week. Start on finishing up season 2 this weekend. Also with you writing the text makes it waaay easier for me, since that allows me more time to do caps. The page is really coming along, look at what it was a week ago. There wasn't shit on there. --Predator20 22:35, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
No problem, I've always tried to be educated on all eras of firearms, not just modern weaponry like most users here do. That's why I can also do westerns and even further back in history. - Gunmaster45

Been thinking. I think we should categorize the guns on Vice. Handgun, shotgun, and rifle section, no separate "assault rifle" section. It's not a necessary thing to do on movie with 15 guns, we got 75 right now. I noticed when I was adding screencaps last night, it took me forever to find the gun I needed. What do you think? Also I'll go back on the pilot and grab that CAR-15 barrel. --Predator20 21:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment. The page has really come a long way. It looks sharp. In my opinion Miami Vice deserves to have a great page. And I've added the show to my list of contributions. Thanks again. It's been a great team effort and lots of fun. --Jcordell 06:05, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I have both of those snaps already in "Sons and Lovers". I'll post them up. "Irish Eyes" is capped.--Predator20 18:54, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I forgot all about his gun being changed. I have 1 good shot that I'll post up. --Predator20 22:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I always wonder why they didn't keep the SIG. Just hard chrome the slide and be done with it. Also I really hated that pink Miami Vice title. The only reason I put it up was because we were past season 1. Then they changed it to the purplish silver for season 3 which looks better to me. That pink was too much. There is some stock photos in the beginning of "Irish Eyes" that I need to put up and I'll make one section for the handgun display. --Predator20 22:23, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

They had to hard chrome the slide on the Bren Ten. So it could have been done to the SIG. I guess they had to go with the coolest new gun. Season 3 is pretty good. Also season 4 and 5 may take me longer because I haven't even watched an episode from them. I had finally finished up season 3 when I decided to start messing with the page. --Predator20 22:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I'll write the episode on the pics. Yeah I have been stalling and stalling on season 4 and 5 didn't want to ruin the series for me. Got to watch them sometime. --Predator20 23:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

If you want to put up that Hi-Power go ahead. On "Cuba Libre" there is an odd M16 style gun in the episode. Has a weird receiver. I don't if I'll have time to put it up Fri, maybe Sat along with the rest of the episode. We're about to eclipse Mail Call.--Predator20 01:46, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

It's no problem writing the descriptions. You take care and I hope everything turns out okay. --Predator20 12:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I was really hoping that the Vice page wouldn't get broken up. It would have only gotten worse as more episodes were done. -Predator20 04:06, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I was planning on going back over the episodes I capped for season 3. To see if any needed to be added. (There is still some from season 1 and 2 I need to add too.) I think there is still around 8 episodes remaining for the season also. I've been working on movies. But don't worry, probably cap at least 2 or 3 episodes this weekend and get any from previous episodes up. -Predator20 14:14, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Season 1 MV

I think I got everything worthwhile in the last few episodes. I got some good shots from "Nobody Lives Forever". But there wasn't anything new, so I figured no point in adding them. If I missed anything good in "Evan" or 'Lombard". Let me know. This weekend I'll pick up on the end of season 2. --Predator20 02:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

"Rafa"

You may want to send him a message. I think he was one of the original contributors on Miami Vice. The custom 1911 deserves its own section when we get to it. --Predator20 23:06, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

It shouldn't be too hard to see that it's being revamped by all the pics. He was basically putting back his original contributions. Maybe he saw it as, "those are missing". Maybe we should put at the top of the page that season 1 is done and part of season 2 is. The remaining seasons will be added soon. --Predator20 23:16, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I saw that you sent him a message, he usually replies on his own talk page. I think the main page would be best, not everyone checks the talk page. --Predator20 23:21, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Take a look.

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Special:LongPages --Predator20 21:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

It's not just artwork.

It's one of the loading screens, therefore it's in and part of the game. Anyway, we name guns on movie posters all the time. Vangelis 05:41, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

I could try, yes. I think for the most part the loading screens depict guns that are actually in the game itself, though; I was just struck by that one when starting up GTA IV, and saw it wasn't listed. In the end, any gun that appears after you turn the game on is in the game, and I've added guns that only showed up in associated promotional artwork or renders before, like the FN FNC in Dark Sector that ended up as a G36 in the actual game. I figure it's about the same as listing guns which only show up in movie poster art and trailers, which we do all the time. Vangelis 05:52, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hill Street Blues

Yeah, I'll admit I was always wondering about Hunter's revolver myself and I thought I had seen or heard somewhere it was a Python. I'll try and get some caps of the grips; if you want I can just post them to your talk page so you can see for yourself without making any dedicated arguments on the HSB page itself yet? I finally got the second season so I'll probably do some more shots from it tonight (if not, tomorrow) and I'll try and grab one since it's almost always in his holster in any scene he's in. Speakeasy804

Also, regarding the recent additions I saw you had made: the pistol I identified as a Browning Hi-Power, I thought I had noticed a similar design in the slide as the HP. Perhaps a better trained eye than my own would be able to discern which firearm it was. Also, the 1911 that LaRue places on the desk in the first episode (the one I had said was a Mk IV Series 70), I had identified as the Series 70 because of the Colt emblem on the grips that is characteristic of a Series 70 1911. However, if any markings on it prove it to be a standard 1911 rather than the Series 70, then I'll eat my words and we can change it. Also, thanks for all your help with the page, I'm glad to see another fan of the show on here! (And of course, all the work you and Predator20 have been doing with Miami Vice has been spectactular, I'd imagine you've been pretty busy!) - Speakeasy804 02:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Miami Vice season 2

Do you keep any of your excess pics from season 2? I have a few I kept from the few episodes I did. They were good pics but we already had enough on the page. The season 1 page looks full and great. Need to do the same with the other seasons. -Predator20 00:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Will do. -Predator20 12:32, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm asking all members to stop with the sarcastic comments in the screencap descriptions

Too many members feel it's funny to be extremely sarcastic about actor's shooting stance, their blinking, their pistol grips. Only if it's so over the top as for the average person to notice, then don't keep on harping on it. Most actors are given only a bare amount of time to train, if at all. Many times the editor picks the worst take for pistol grip, but best take for other reasons like acting. Also much of the blame falls on the director. Some directors don't want to be bothered trying to train the actors and don't allow us armorers to even give them more training than the minimum safety training. People in the industry check out this website, and some think we're a bunch of obnoxious kids. I am not happy when people in 'the biz' look at the site and scoff at the snarky remarks. Some of them are the actual actors being insulted. We can always put in criticism, but IMFDB members going forward going to criticize a film, should try to do so in a scholarly manner or not at all. Thanks for your cooperation MoviePropMaster2008 05:44, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Screen used gun uploads

Don't know if you've noticed by I'm putting up a lot of screen used guns on IMFDB. This will be the ONLY PLACE on the planet where these images exist. :) But since you're the architect of Miami Vice, I wanted to alert you to this. :) I put it in the 3rd Season page already, but if it shows up anywhere else, please know that it's there. I'm trying to get more screen used guns from Miami Vice (actual ones verified by Serial Numbers and show invoices) and put them here. Though you might like this. :) Best regards MoviePropMaster2008 04:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

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Smith & Wesson 645 - .45 ACP. This is the screen used Smith & Wesson 645 carried and used by Don Johnson in the Television Series Miami Vice.

Live Free or Die Hard

Good call on adding the UMP-45 the movie page. But you noted that the gun is built in the same configuration as the one in the movie. It IS one of the same guns from the movie. Papac used his UMPs on Live Free or Die Hard (2007) and then took those same guns and used them on the set of Iron Man (2008). The UMPs were kept in the same configuration. Since the UMPs on Live Free or Die Hard were mostly used by minor actors playing bad guys, no one bothers to check who used what gun, but these are the same UMPs on Live Free or Die Hard. I guess I could call it a screen used gun on Bruce Willis' movie as well. Would it be confusing? MoviePropMaster2008 09:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

History of M1911

before you relocate your proposal .... again. unfortunately, I am not interested in pursuing this. I am not knowledgeable about M1911s and really not that interested and it would take too much research. You are welcome to do it if interested. I was only doing the M16 age purely because I was trying to clear out what was FACT and what was URBAN MYTH that I had heard over the years. And I've heard a lot of stuff that turned out to be Urban Myth over the last 30 years. Also I've been collecting AR15s and M16s much more so than M1911s. I am convinced that no where else has the actual 'history' of the Civilian market. The military history is available in books and such. Unlike famous civilian guns like the Remingtons 700s or Winchester Model 70s, who tracks what was available to the general public for that type of rifle? Especially all the clone makers? Anyway I've heard so much false info (and unfortunately have repeated it myself and have had to retract it), that I wanted to set up a definite timeline of military/police/civilian models and try to make really educated guesses as to what would be in what film ... based on year. I took a break from that page but will start up again. I've been pretty busy with other photography as you can see. Anyway, that page is far from over. But it will be a good primer for folks to have at least a timeline of info to know when the Military version changes happened, and then when the civilian models were offered. Thanks again. MoviePropMaster2008 18:42, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Miami Vice

I just finished watching the last few episodes of season 3, two weekends ago. (Watched a few of season 4 also). I plan on trying to get all the remaining eps from season 3 capped this weekend. Episodes 20 through 24 are all that are left from season 3. I won't start doing season 4 until I've watched all the episodes. After season 3 is done or mostly done. I want to go back on season 1 add some caps and some from the middle of season 3 that weren't necessary when it was all one page. I have been doing movies lately because I was burnt out on Vice. --Predator20 13:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't think having a sub category for the manufacturer of the gun is all that necessary Colt, Beretta, S&W auto, or M16 type. But that's me. I pretty much know what episodes from season 3 I need to go back on. Walk-Alone has some shotguns that need to be added. 1 or 2 other back eps. I just want to get the remaining 4 episodes done and work back from there. --Predator20 00:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I'll do that. I have just been doing little by little with descriptions. I uploaded 60 plus images from the last 5 remaining episodes, so it's a lot to fill in. I appreciate all the help. That sounds great filling in the main descriptions instead of "many characters use the Colt Python". With season being separated it makes it easier, so you don't two paragraphs worth. I can't believe I didn't notice the side ejection of Tubbs 870. (Too big of a hurry trying to get the images up.) I need to go and see if I can get more pics of it from prior episodes. I got some movies I need to finish work on, when those are done I'll go back on the previous episodes and we'll get seasons 1 through 3 wrapped. (They're 99% done as is.) I just finished watching the second disc of season 4.--Predator20 04:57, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Too many screencaps=

Whoa whoa whoa! Don't start putting too many caps of the same gun! or I will start deleting them. There are two members here (who will go unnamed) who are the biggest violators of the 'too many screencaps' rule. Don't become like them. I'm sick of it and I will start reminding members that it is not a race to see who has the most screencaps per weapon. Try to keep it BELOW seven shots per weapon entry. I have a stake in the Reservoir Dogs page. I photographed the hero guns for the page. MoviePropMaster2008 03:15, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Great work on Reservoir Dogs

Thanks for the streamlining of the page. You did great! MoviePropMaster2008 08:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Edit - also very interesting on the other weapons. This list will help to track down the OTHER hero guns. :) MoviePropMaster2008

Got him

He's blocked now, some of these anonymous users need to grow up, I never seen such a childish comment. Thanks for telling me, if you need anything else, let me know.--Alienqueen11 00:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

This guy

He listed as playing 5 different roles in Vice. --Predator20 00:09, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

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He plays a thug in a lot of films. Some of these guys could have weapons usage list longer than some lead actors. Thomas Rosales Jr. is another one. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0740951/ --Predator20 00:58, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Re My Guns

Thanks. I seem to go more for the classics. I'm not a big fan of Glocks, while they're super reliable and can take a lot of abuse. They're just ugly to me. HK's are not bad looking guns, neither are SIG's but they're pricey. For some the reliability is all that matters, but looks matter to me too. I just picked up a Beretta 92FS Inox a week ago. Whenever the scope for my L1A1 and flash hider for the Mini-14 come in, I'll take some pics of my long guns and the new to me Inox. The only reason I purchased the Inox was my Grandma was needing a larger gun than the .22 Colt Challenger she had. So I traded my 92F for it. I need more revolvers I only have one currently. So maybe two of those will be next purchases. --Predator20 20:20, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll take a snap of it. The Colt Woodsman and Challenger look almost the same only the grip is different (could just be the grip panels). You can't see the grip in the screenshot. Browning also made the Challenger. (Browning designed it) --Predator20 22:56, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

You won't believe this

Score! I've been holding off uploading these because I'm still waiting on an image for the Heartbreak Ridge' page (their weapons are set up slightly differently) so I hope people will wait to update that page until I can get a good image for that page.

Say Hello to My Little Friend!!!

Scarface fans will crap in their pants. Got the ACTUAL screen used LITTLE FRIEND. Now I used black gaffers tape and taped two 30 round magazines together as best I could (to try to match the screenshots). Do you think that was smart? or should I just present it with a plain magazine? Anyway, I did that because I wanted people to see it as it was most seen in the movie (Wow that launcher is beat up, it's been 25 years after all since the movie was filmed!!!!) It is also the old launchers that were used before the Cobray 37mm launchers became prevalent.

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Tony Montanas' 'Little Friend' from the movie Scarface - Motion Picture Faux M203 launcher attached to M16A1 - 5.56mm/39mm

Screen used Zabala Shotgun

This IS the gun used by 'The Skull' Gino Silva to blast Tony Montana in the movie. I also included a closeup shot of the top of the gun to show the markings.

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Screen used side by side Spanish Zabala Shotgun from the movie Scarface - 12 gauge
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Top of the Screen used side by side Spanish Zabala Shotgun from the movie Scarface - 12 gauge. Note manufacturer markings on the top of the shotgun.

RUN! GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!!!

Recognize this lovely? I've been waiting to get pics for the Predator page for a while. So many weapons have either been sold off or taken apart and reconfigured for other movies.

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Motion Picture Faux M203 launcher attached to M16/SP1 Rilfe - 5.56mm/39mm. Configured as it appeared in the movie.

IMFDB is the only place in the WORLD, now that has these images. How cool is that? :) I got some screen used muskets from Last of the Mohicans (from private collections), which is interesting since I usually don't get many pre 1848 weapons. MoviePropMaster2008 03:31, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

RE: Reservoir Dogs

First of all, no need to be rude. While not the original author of the page, I was the one who initially revamped it, so I more or less claim it as my own work. I've had conflicts with consultation of "original" authors and now I like to see someone at least post on the forums when they are going to redo a page just so someone gets a chance to weigh whether or not the page should be changed.

Second, it's highly debatable whether or not your screencaps are "better". Mine are all .png files and while they take longer to load, they come out much clearer than .jpeg files so they are easier to see. Mine are also marginally bigger as well as clearer, so you can note certain features on the S&W second generation pistols (such as the barrel bushing) and distinguish them from third gens, which is very common for people to do when they watch Reservoir Dogs. It allows me to put my foot down and say "No, it's a second gen, here's my proof". Finally, they were all poorly trimmed and there is still some black border around all of them. Whether or nit Windscreen is preferred varies with the user, I jsut so happen to be on the side of full screen as the images are easier to crop.

I really appreciate you putting in the screen used guns, as I didn't know MPM had gotten pictures of them, but to go and redo all the screenshots, which were arguably worse than mine, was a bit much, and that is why I reverted it. I'll go on the forum and have everyone have their say on which is better. Yournamehere 21:47, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I get what you mean about the "VS" thing. If you looked at the comparison pics I threw up, yours did have a better color, Gunman. When it comes to redoing pages other people have worked on and completed, I don't see the point unless it's half-assed, pics missing, or really bad quality. Doing that kind of work could be put to better use on another page that needs help bad. --Predator20 23:10, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

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