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[[Image:MGC16.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The MGC M16 Assault rifle: a non firing metal replica built by the Model Gun Corp of Japan and one of the most used non firing replicas of the M16 in movies and television.]] | [[Image:MGC16.jpg|thumb|none|450px|The MGC M16 Assault rifle: a non firing metal replica built by the Model Gun Corp of Japan and one of the most used non firing replicas of the M16 in movies and television.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70937.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the thugs at the mine brandishing an MGC M16.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-70937.jpg|thumb|600px|none|One of the thugs at the mine brandishing an MGC M16.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-71438.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The same thug firing his MGC M16 at Kaminsky's car.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-71438.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The same thug aims his MGC M16 at Kaminsky's car.]] | ||
[[Image:RawD 7028.jpg|thumb|600px|none|The same thug firing his MGC M16 at Kaminsky's car.]] | |||
==(Fake) XM177 == | ==(Fake) XM177 == | ||
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Raw Deal was a 1986 action film starring Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mark Kaminsky, a disgraced FBI agent who is given a chance to go undercover to find a mole in the FBI, who was responsible for leaking information that killed a young FBI agent, the son of his friend, retired FBI Senior Agent Harry Shannon (Darren McGavin). Raw Deal was helmed by British director John Irvin, who is familiar to movie buffs as the director of The Dogs of War and Hamburger Hill. Raw Deal was Schwarzenegger's next film to capitalize on his hit movie Commando (1985), however it was only a moderate commercial success, owing a lot to the previous hit movie for its ticket sales. In Schwarzenegger's filmography, it is considered one of the action star's weaker films, despite rhe presence of several veteran actors/actresses in supporting roles and achieving a sort of cult film status for its quirky lines and action sequences. It should not be confused with the 1948 Crime Drama Raw Deal or the 1977 Western Raw Deal, despite having the same title.
The following weapons appear in the movie Raw Deal:
WARNING! SPOILERS AHEAD!
Heckler & Koch HK94
In the climax of the film, Mark Kaminsky (Arnold Schwarzenegger) goes to his hotel room and unpacks an arsenal of weapons hidden in a storage bag for his suit. One of the weapons is a Heckler & Koch HK94 semi-automatic carbine, the civilian version of the famous MP5. His gun is the A3 model, which has a collapsible stock, as well as a ventilated barrel shroud, and a vertical fore grip mounted just to the front and slightly below the main sight. When he carries out his assault at the mine and later on Patrovita's hideout, the weapon is fired on full-auto, suggesting that it was converted by a Class III manufacturer to a legal full auto gun for the film. One detail that also reveals the conversion of a Semi auto carbine into a full auto gun is the lack of a paddle release for the magazine (which was standard on all original MP5s). It takes some fitting and the acquisition of a replacement H&K paddle, and many armorers just didn't bother.
Schwarzenegger is also seen brandishing this same weapon (or perhaps another, identical weapon) on the poster for the movie, seen above, albeit with no magazine loaded in the gun. A notable goof is that the weapon has the "slimline"-type forearm when Kaminsky is seen loading it in his hotel room, but for the rest of the film, it has the "tropical" or "wide"-type forearm.
Dan Wesson Model 15
One of the other weapons which Kaminsky has in his suit storage bag is a Dan Wesson Model 15 revolver. Most notably, he uses the weapon to kill the driver of a huge off-road dump truck who is trying to run him down while he's holed up in a trailer.
Dan Wesson Model 15-VH
Several Patrovita soldiers use Dan Wesson Model 15 in the final shootout with Kaminsky.
Smith & Wesson Model 10
One of Patrovita's soldiers fires a Smith & Wesson Model 10.
Smith & Wesson Model 27/28
It's possible that Smith & Wesson Model 27 / 28 makes several appearances in the movie. The first time is at the beginning when the federal witness is assassinated along with the FBI agents guarding him. One of the agents appears to be firing a 27/28 w/4" barrel (ineffectively) before being gunned down. There is another scene when Kaminsky takes a car from gangsters then launches the car into an illegal casino. It appears that Kaminsky pulls a Model 27/28 from his suit coat when he gets into the limo of rival mobster Lamansky (Steven Hill). The revolver looks like the large N frame with the tapered barrel that is a characteristic of the .357 magnum N frame.
Smith & Wesson Model 586
FBI Special Agent Harry Shannon (Darren McGavin) carries a Smith & Wesson Model 586 when he's ambushed by Max Keller (Robert Davi) and unknowingly by Kaminsky.
Smith & Wesson Model 15
FBI Special Agent Blair Shannon is seen holding a Smith & Wesson Model 15 Combat Masterpiece in the beginning of the film. At the end, Kaminsky takes a S&W off the floor and gives it to Baxter, telling him to "resign or be prosecuted".
Smith & Wesson Model 29
Chicago cop Baker (Ed Lauter) carries a Smith & Wesson Model 29 snubnose as he and other cops raid one of Patrovita's hideouts.
Colt Detective Special
A female Chicago undercover cop surprises a Patrovita lookout by drawing a Colt Detective Special on him.
Charter Arms Off Duty
Patrovita uses a stainless Charter Arms Off Duty in the final casino shootout.
International Ordnance MP2 machine pistol
An International Ordnance MP2 machine pistol is used by Kaminski during the casino shootout. The International Ordance MP2 had a front grip that doubled as an extra mag holder. This portion has evidently been removed for the film. The pistol is basically a shortened STEN tube with a magwell/pistol grip very similar to that of an M-11/9mm smg. I have never seen a live example of one besides in this film but pictures do exist. It bears a striking resemblance to the SM-9 but is in fact a different firearm. The muzzle my have been installed not much for vanity but to reduce barrel climb so it can be handled without the front grip.
Mossberg 500AT shotgun
The last weapon in Kaminsky's weapons cache is a Mossberg 500AT shotgun fitted with a riot barrel with a heavy choke and a pistol grip .
MGC Replica M16
Among the weapons used throughout the film by the mobsters are MGC M16 assault rifles - identifiable by the fact that they don't fire and they have the fake forward assist and upside down three pronged flash hider.
(Fake) XM177
The mobsters are also frequently seen using some type of CAR-15 variation that appears to resemble an XM177, but it's actually a converted AR15 SP1 carbine made to look like an XM177. These are the same guns seen in The Dogs of War (Special Effects Unlimited, the company which supplied weapons for that film, were also the armorers on this film).
(Fake) Uzi
The mobsters are also seen wielding submachine guns that might appear at first to be Uzis (some with fixed wooden buttstocks, others with folding stocks). However, a close-inspection of the receivers reveals that they are actually MAC-10s that have been visually modified to resemble the Uzi, fitted with Uzi barrels, front and rear sights, forward grips, and stocks. These exact same prop weapons also appear in several other Hollywood movies, including The Dogs of War and Stripes.
MAC-10
One of Petrovita's soldiers fires on Kaminski with an actual MAC-10 in the final casino shootout.
M14 Rifle
Another mobster is seen sniping with a semi-automatic rifle fitted with a suppressor and scope. This is either a military M14, or (more likely) an M1A, the semi-automatic civilian version of the M14 (manufactured by several manufacturers over the years, but the term M1A is copyrighted to Springfield Armory. Other makers of the Semiauto M14 rifle are Federal Ordnance, Fulton Armory, Rock Island Armory and Norinco/Poly Technologies of China.)
Double Barrel shotgun
One of the mob assassins in the opening hit uses a double barrelled shotgun to kill one of the FBI agents.
Various unknown revolvers
All of the handguns which appear in Raw Deal are revolvers, and I'm sorry to say that I don't know a whole lot about revolvers (if you're my age, they're just inherently less interesting than the high-capacity semi-autos that have been featured in action movies since the late-80s). So, here are lots of screenshots showing off the various wheel guns seen in the movie. Feel free to identify them and sort them out.
I remember reading an article in "Combat handguns", written by Jerry Ahern, when the movie was first released, where he mentioned that a Charter Arms Bulldog was used in the movie, but I am not able to identify it in these pics.
- I think the Charter Arms Bulldog might be Patrovita's gun, seen in the 5th and 6th screenshots.
The guy shown in the front is definitely holding a blue-steel Smith & Wesson M15 "Combat Masterpiece" cal. .38 Special. Note that ejector rod ain't shrouded, so it cannot be a Smith & Wesson M19 "Combat Magnum", cal. .357 Magnum. The guy next to him on the right might aim with a Smith & Wesson M29.
Charter Arms Bulldog .44 Special cal. maybe?