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[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|French MAS-36 Rifle.]] | [[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|French MAS-36 Rifle.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23252.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23252.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23792.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23792.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers armed with [[MAS-36 rifle]]s.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25677.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-25677.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two French soldiers fire their [[MAS-36 rifle]]s.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31354.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-31354.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier gets shot while holding a [[MAS-36 rifle]].]] | ||
== Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman == | == Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman == | ||
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[[Image:Skt239.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A S&W M-13, demonstarting WHY the aluminium cylinder was unsuccessful.]] | [[Image:Skt239.jpg|thumb|none|350px|A S&W M-13, demonstarting WHY the aluminium cylinder was unsuccessful.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-113243.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The M-13 in Snake Shit's holster when he gets out of his Huey at Regiment Headquarters.]] | ||
[[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none| | [[Image:Revolver WWS.JPG|thumb|none|600px|"You have the balls to face me and not the enemy?" Crandall pulls his M-13 after he gets reprimanded by a medavac pilot.]] | ||
== GE M134 Minigun == | == GE M134 Minigun == | ||
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[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm]] | [[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-38494.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Aircav officers admire the M134 minigun before Moore briefs them on their mission.]] | ||
== M1928A1 Thompson == | == M1928A1 Thompson == | ||
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[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP with 30-round box magazine.]] | [[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP with 30-round box magazine.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Gary Owen! ARVN soldier with a M1928A1 Thompson as well as other US soldiers cheer the rest of the 1st Cavalry as they prepare to enter the Ia Drang.]] | ||
== Browning M1919A4 == | == Browning M1919A4 == | ||
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[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A variant of the Browning M1919 developed during World War 2, this model is designated the M37, with the ability to feed from either the left or the right of the weapon - 30-06. This example is shown without a tripod, only the pintle mount. This the MOST likely .30 cal machine gun to be seen firing from armored vehicles.]] | [[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A variant of the Browning M1919 developed during World War 2, this model is designated the M37, with the ability to feed from either the left or the right of the weapon - 30-06. This example is shown without a tripod, only the pintle mount. This the MOST likely .30 cal machine gun to be seen firing from armored vehicles.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-30185.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-30185.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier fires the [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4]] at Viet Minh forces.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4]] can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]] | ||
== MAT-49 == | == MAT-49 == | ||
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[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A MAT-49 submachine gun.]] | [[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A MAT-49 submachine gun.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French soldier can be seen with a [[MAT-49]] in the center of the screencap.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-72625.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Vietcong fighter gets shot while holding his MAT-49.]] | ||
== RPG-2 == | == RPG-2 == | ||
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[[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]] | [[Image:Rpg-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|RPG-2 40mm with PG-2 rocket]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-126730.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carrying the RPG-2 prepares to engage the American forces.]] | ||
== SKS rifle == | == SKS rifle == | ||
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[[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Russian SKS rifle.]] | [[Image:Simonov-Russian-SKS45.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Russian SKS rifle.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-26996.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh soldiers rush the French in the intro of the movie. Note how you can see a Kar98k in the backround.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-33261.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-33261.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier holds his SKS to a French soldier]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34495.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-34495.jpg|thumb|none|600px|]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34672.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-34672.jpg|thumb|none|600px|POV of a Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23999.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the French with his SKS rifle.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-25555.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier with his SKS.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-28285.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier before being blown up by a French grenade.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-28497.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet Minh to the left-centre is armed with a SKS rifle.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-77472.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A NVA soldier comes out of a underground base armed with a [[SKS rifle]].]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-49825.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier rushes the french during the intro.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-75037.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A NVA or Vietcong soldier runs around with his SKS while the Ia Drang valley burns in the background by the napalm bombs dropped by United States Air Force planes.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-99460.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A NVA soldier armed with a SKS creeps throught the dark.]] | ||
== Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine == | == Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine == | ||
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[[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M44 Carbine Chambered to the 7.62x54R caliber round.]] | [[Image:M44Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M44 Carbine Chambered to the 7.62x54R caliber round.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34173.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-34173.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Viet minh soldier in the center of the screencap has a M44 carbine while the other Viet Minh soldier has a Kar98k.]] | ||
== Karabiner 98k == | == Karabiner 98k == | ||
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[[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:Karabiner-98K.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Karabiner 98k - German manufacture 1937 date - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34173.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-34173.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Kar98K is carried by one of Viet Minh soldiers]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-70352.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Victor Charlie with a Kar98k.]] | ||
== M1A1 Bazooka == | == M1A1 Bazooka == | ||
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[[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1A1 Bazooka.]] | [[Image:M1A1 Bazooka.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A M1A1 Bazooka.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23699.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23699.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Viet Minh soldier fires at French soldiers with a M1A1 Bazooka. Note the modified rear sight and how it has only one grip.]] | ||
== Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun == | == Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun == | ||
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[[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A DP-28, the same variant seen in the movie.]] | [[Image:DP-28.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A DP-28, the same variant seen in the movie.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-164041.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-164041.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun is glimpsed as Moore's troops advance.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-163052.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A DP-28 is seen among the fallen NVA soldiers as the Huey gunship continues to fire.]] | ||
== Type 67 Grenade == | == Type 67 Grenade == | ||
A Chinese Type 67 hand grenade is thrown at the 1st Cavalry Division's position. | A Chinese Type 67 hand grenade is thrown at the 1st Cavalry Division's position. | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-134626.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-134626.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Maybe it just wants to be friends.]] | ||
== RPD Light Machine Gun == | == RPD Light Machine Gun == | ||
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[[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An RPD.]] | [[Image:RPD-Light-Machine-Gun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An RPD.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-72255.jpg|thumb|none|600px|An NVA soldier carries an [[RPD]] to the left of the screencap.]] | ||
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[[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An Czech ZB26.]] | [[Image:ZB-26.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An Czech ZB26.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34273.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-34273.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A Close Up of the [[ZB26]] in the hands of a Viet Minh Soldier.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-34330.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-34330.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Another shot of the same scene. Note the mosin-nagant in the background.]] | ||
== MG34 == | == MG34 == | ||
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[[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An [[MG34]].]] | [[Image:Mg-34.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An [[MG34]].]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-158234.jpg|thumb|none|600px|Two NVA soldiers man a [[MG34]] machine gun.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-158338.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A different NVA machine gunner aims his MG34 at the oncoming American forces.]] | ||
==DShK== | ==DShK== | ||
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The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is a error. The Armourers couln't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the Armourers used those Hi-Powers instead. | The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is a error. The Armourers couln't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the Armourers used those Hi-Powers instead. | ||
[[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Commercial Browning Hi-Power Pistol.]] | [[Image:BrowningHiPowerPistol9mm.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Commercial Browning Hi-Power Pistol.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-28610.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-28610.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A French Army officer fires his [[Browning Hi-Power]] at a Viet Minh soldier.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31533.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Vlcsnap-31533.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The French Officer gets bayoneted by a Viet Minh Officer.]] | ||
== Notes == | == Notes == | ||
Revision as of 01:19, 4 October 2009
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The following guns were used in the movie We Were Soldiers
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XM16E1
The XM16E1 assault rifle are used by the soldiers of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry Regiment including Lieutenant Colonel Hal Moore (Mel Gibson), First Lieutenant Charlie Hastings (Robert Bagnell), Second Lieutenant Jack Geoghegan (Chris Klein), Sergeant Ernie Savage (Ryan Hurst) and most United States Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Battle of Landing Zone X-Ray, Joe Galloway (Barry Pepper) uses one as well. These were actual XM16E1s.
M1 Carbine
A Korean war era M1 Carbine is carried by the ARVN interpreter dressed in tiger stripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is captured and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the French during the intro.
M60 machine gun
The M60 machine gun is used by several US soldiers. Various door gunners use them as well.
Colt M1911 pistol
A Colt M1911 is used by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley (Sam Elliott) as his main weapon since he prefers the .45 to the XM16E1, which he calls a "Piece of Plastic". It is anachronistic to see the first model of the M1911 being used by Plumley since the M1911 was replaced in 1924 by the improved M1911A1 which was the sidearm of the US Military in the Vietnam War, World War 2 and the Korean War. It could be that the M1911 was used to make Plumley more "Badass". As if a Sergeant Major that fought against a entire regiment of heavily armed NVA and a NFL Battalion armed only with an M1911A1 was not badass enough.
- No, he really did that-S&Wshooter 21:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- Wait, Plumley actually carried a M1911 not an M1911A1 in the battle?--Oliveira 14:32, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Colt M1911A1 pistol
A Colt M1911A1 is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore and most of the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division that appear in the movie.
M26 Hand Grenades
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches.
PPSh-41
The NVA and the Vietcong use PPSh-41s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie.
Genuine AK-47s
During the movie the North Vietnamese Army (NVA) use genuine AK-47s with milled receivers.
The AK-47s used in the movie were built by the Movie's Armourer Mike Papac.
M79 grenade launcher
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying M79 grenade launchers in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum (Blake Heron) uses one since he is the grenadier of Sergeant Savage's squad.
MAS-36 Rifle
In the opening scene where the French soldiers are ambushed during the French-Indochinese War, various french soldiers use MAS-36 rifles.
Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake Shit" Crandall (Greg Kinnear) is most likely a Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman, an unsuccessful lightweight aluminium-cylindered revolver designed for US military flyers. This was part of a generally badly thought-out push to make things from aluminium in the 1960s, also resulting in the M551 Sheridan's lightweight aluminium armour which could be penetrated by machine gun fire and a number of disasterous fires on warships with aluminium superstructures. In 2007, the real Crandall was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions at the Battle of Ia Drang Valley.
GE M134 Minigun
A pair of GE M134 Miniguns are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers in the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table near the beginning of the film.
M1928A1 Thompson
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a South Vietnamese soldier holding up an M1928A1 Thompson with a 30-round magazine.
Browning M1919A4
Two Browning M1919A4s can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
MAT-49
Various French Soldiers use MAT-49 submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various NVA and VC soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamese troops during the Indochina war.
RPG-2
An NVA soldier wearing a gas mask uses an RPG-2 (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) to kill American soldiers.
SKS rifle
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use SKS rifles during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.
Mosin Nagant M44 Carbine
During the intro sequence a Viet Minh soldier can be seen with a Mosin Nagant M44 carbine.
Karabiner 98k
A Viet Minh soldier during the intro sequence and a Vietcong soldier later on can be seen using Karabiner 98k rifles.
It should be noted that acording to one of the Armorers of the film, Steve Karnes, the Kar98ks used in the movie came from Israel and were chambered to 7.62mm NATO.
M1A1 Bazooka
A Viet Minh soldier uses a varient of the M1 Bazooka, the M1A1 Bazooka with one forward grip and a modified rear sight to destroy a French jeep during the intro sequence.
While it seems that a Viet Minh soldier using a Bazooka could be a anachronism, the French army widely used the M1A1, M9A1, and M20 bazookas during the Indochina War. The Viet Minh widely used scavanged French weapons during the Indochina War, and the PAVN and Vietcong also widely used them during the Vietnam War.
Degtyaryov DP-28 machine gun
In the scene where the men of the 1st Cavalry Division perform a bayonet charge against the NVA position (an event which actually didn't happen in real life), a small crew of PAVN soldiers man a DP-28, a varient of the Soviet Degtyarev light machine gun.
Type 67 Grenade
A Chinese Type 67 hand grenade is thrown at the 1st Cavalry Division's position.
RPD Light Machine Gun
During the Battle of Ia Drang, one PAVN soldier can be seen carrying an RPD Light Machine Gun.
Czech ZB26
An ZB26 is used by a Viet Minh machine gunner during the opening sequence of the film set during the Indochina War. Acording to Steve Karnes, The Movie's Armourer, the ZB26 used in the movie was sold to the Chinese and converted to 7.62x39 later in its life. It also has Chinese Characters on the side of the receiver.
MG34
When the American Soldiers charge the NVA position, a two man crew of NVA soldiers man an MG34 Light Machine Gun before they get killed by the Huey Helicopters. One NVA soldier also mans another MG34 in the same scene.
DShK
A DShK is seen manned by an NVA in the final battle before knocked out by the helicopter. The version seen in the film is a Browning M2 mocked up as a DShK.
Browning Hi-Power Pistol
During the Intro of the Movie set during the Indochina War, a French Officer uses his Siderarm, a Browning Hi-Power pistol, to kill several Viet Minh soldiers before being killed himself.
The use of the Browning Hi-Power pistol by the French Army in the movie is a error. The Armourers couln't get French MAB pistols and since Hi-Powers were at the region the Armourers used those Hi-Powers instead.
Notes
There are several errors also in the uniforms of French troops. - 1) No lieutenant from "troupes de Marine" (2 golden horizontal stripes on bleu) whould have a white kepi (Kepi blanc for Foreign Legion soldiers only, excluding NCOs and officers) - 2) The red berets are worne the wrong way (Insigna on the right in France for all the Army. Only exception French Navy Commando green berets) - 3) Insigna on the red berets are wrong (infantry instead of paratroopers) Sorry, not hardware but military exactitude as well