Black Hawk Down: Difference between revisions
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Black Hawk Down: Difference between revisions
The Deltas arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint scopes, surefire flashlights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph tape), some of them have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727). (note - some of the pressure switches were rendered useless as as the delta operators fast roped in from the black hawks, the friction from the 3inch ropes burnt straight through the connecting cable, meaning that the flashlights and in some cases, the radios, failed to function properly.
The Deltas arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint scopes, surefire flashlights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph tape), some of them have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727).
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Staff Sgt. Busch aims an M727 carbine at Somali militants raiding a red cross food distribution center while aboard a Blackhawk. Note flashlight pressure switch taped to the handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Staff Sgt. Busch aims an M727 carbine at Somali militants raiding a red cross food distribution center while aboard a Blackhawk. Note flashlight pressure switch taped to the handguard.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Sanderson fires his M727 carbine.]]
[[Image:BHD-M733-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Sanderson fires his M727 carbine.]]
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[[Image:BHDCommando-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Wounded SSG Busch climbs out of a crashed Blackhawk and fires his M727 at the Somalians.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Wounded SSG Busch climbs out of a crashed Blackhawk and fires his M727 at the Somalians.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Sanderson fires his M727.]]
[[Image:BHDCommando-7.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sgt. Sanderson fires his M727.]]
(note - some of the pressure switches were rendered useless as as the delta operators fast roped in from the black hawks, the friction from the 3inch ropes burnt straight through the connecting cable, meaning that the flashlights and in some cases, the radios, failed to function properly.)
The Delta operators mainly wield the M727 and M733 variants of the Colt Commando. The M727 variant is identified by its A2 upper reciever and 14.5" barrel with the cutout for mounting an M20e grenade launcher; the M733 has the shorter 11.5" barrel. Staff Sgt. Daniel Busch (Richard Tyson) is the first Delta member on screen, and also the first soldier we see carrying an M727. All Delta members carry M727s and M733s, fitted with various accessories such as Aimpoint scopes and surefire flashlights. Master Sgt. Gary Gordon (Nikolaj Coster Waldau) can be seen carrying an M733 featuring a camouflage paint scheme and a sound suppressor, which is then used by Chief Warrant Officer Michael Durant (Ron Eldard) to pick off several more Somalis before running out of ammunition and being overwhelmed.
The Deltas arm themselves differently from the Rangers by using customized Colt Model 727 and 733 rifles as opposed to longer, heavier M16A2 rifles. Many are fitted with such accessories as Aimpoint scopes, surefire flashlights (with the pressure switch taped to the handguard with 100mph tape), some of them have camouflage paint schemes, and some of them are fitted with 14.5" barrels with M203 cuts (M727).
(note - some of the pressure switches were rendered useless as as the delta operators fast roped in from the black hawks, the friction from the 3inch ropes burnt straight through the connecting cable, meaning that the flashlights and in some cases, the radios, failed to function properly.)
Rangers
While the Rangers are armed almost entirely with M16A2 rifles, Cpt. Steele (Jason Isaacs) uses an M733 rifle noted by the 11.5" barrel, with nothing modified or changed. A field medic is also seen using an M733, presumabley because he would need a lighter, more versatile weapon to move quickly to wounded soldiers.
Master Sgt. Gary Gordon uses an M733 rifle with the camo paint, scope and a light, but his is fitted with a sound suppressor. Shughart gives this rifle to the wounded Chief Warrant Officer Michael Durant, who uses it before it runs out of ammo.
Some of the Deltas are seen using Colt Commando CAR-15 carbines with the original long type muzzle break, which are also heavily customized. There is a high possibility they are built from several Commando types so a definite I.D. isn't certain unless the armorer can verify it.
Hoot seems to use an Colt M4 carbine rifle with the same customizations and paint job as the Commando rifles when doing solo operations in Somalia, noted by its removable carry handle. He uses it to shoot a wild boar from a chopper, and is chastized by Cpt. Steele (Jason Isaacs) for keeping the weapon's safety off in the baracks. It is noted as an M4, the burst rifle varient because the M4A1, the full-auto varient had not been issued yet. The M4A1 would begin issue around 1995 or so. One of the Deltas is also seen using an M4 carbine during the operation itself.
A bit of anachronism here, both the M4 and M4A1 entered service in 1994, a year after the events of this film (in 1993), so the M4 should technically not be in Hoot's hands. The probable reason was the fact that most of the earlier M16 Carbines are hard to come by, so they needed something to fill that gap.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingColt M4 carbine 5.56x45mm.Error creating thumbnail: File missing"Who's hungry?" Hoot readies his M4 carbine to shoot a wild boar. Note flashlight pressure switch attached to the handguards with electric tape. Also note that Hoot racks the action twice; once when he boards the chopper, and another time when he readies to shoot the boar.Error creating thumbnail: File missingCpt. Steele points out to Hoot that whether a undisciplined Delta or not, his M4 carbine should be safetied in the barracks. Hoot replies "This is my safety" and bends his pointer finger. Note the knobs on the carry handle used to remove it from the gun and custom pistol grip.Error creating thumbnail: File missingA Delta operator breaches and clears with an M4 carbine in hand. Note the removable carry handle.
M60 machine gun
Specialist Shawn Nelson (Ewen Bremner) can be seen carrying an M60 machine gun machine gun as his standard weapon. Some of the Somalians can be seen using them as well.
Several Rangers can be seen carrying FN Minimis throughout the film, standing in for the M249-E1 SAW. It is also the weapon used by Specialist Lance Twombly (Tom Hardy) to accidentally deafen Nelson when he fires it too close to his head.
The M14 Rifle is seen being used by Sergeant First Class Randy Shughart (Johnny Strong), most notably when he and Master Sgt. Gary Gordon are covering the second crash site. His M14 sports a camouflage paint scheme and an M68 Aimpoint scope. It was noted that the actual SSGT Shughart actually used a M21 with a M68 scope, although the movie armorer used an M14 to supplement this.
M16A1 rifles are seen in the Somalian arms dealer's shop and one militia member is seen loading up one. At one point, Rangers can be seen watching a portion of the film The Jerk where a madman is trying to shoot the protagonist using a scoped M16A1.
Spanish CETME rifles are seen among the weapons in the arms dealer's shop, many of which are taken by the militia to combat the U.S. forces. They are not Heckler & Koch G3s, most notabley because they have a simple fixed sight instead of a rear sight spindle.
One of the Somalian fires on Mike Durant's Black Hawk armed with an RPK light machine gun. Its blonde furniture indicates it could be a foreign copy. The machining divots in the receiver could help indicate its origins as well.
(the milled receiver, blonde wood, and the fact that the selector is in semi seem to suggest it is an Arsenal Bulgarian RPK, probably a US-made semi-auto variant)
The Russian manufactured RPG-7 features prominently in the film as it is the weapon which brings down a pair of Black Hawks. In one scene, a projectile from an RPG-7 strikes the driver of one of the deuce and a half trucks in Lt. Colonel Danny McKnight (Tom Sizemore)'s convoy and fails to detonate, impaling the luckless soldier instead.
Nearly all of the Somali gunmen are armed with the Norinco Type 56-1 assault rifle, which is a Chinese derivative of the AKS-47/AKMS. They are identified by the hooded front sights, which only Chinese Kalashnikov rifles have.
Mo'alim (Razaaq Adoti), the Somalian militia leader, carries an AKS-74U as his weapon of choice, first seen picking it up and inspecting it before heading into battle, then firing a burst into the air to break up the mob attacking one of the surviving Blackhawk pilots before announcing that he was to be taken alive as a prisoner.
At one point in the film, Somalis begin to bombard the building the majority of the Rangers and Deltas have taken cover in with mortars and an SPG-9 recoilless rifle. A group of Deltas soon kill the gunners and then turn the weapon against the Somalis, killing several with one shot before destroying the weapon with a thermite grenade.
While the Cobray CM203 37mm launchers are fitted on most of the Ranger's M16A2 rifles, a couple of actual M203 grenade launchers attached to M16A2s are seen, the most notable of which is Specialist John Grimes (Ewan McGregor) who assists Delta in taking out a technical that has them pinned down, missing the first shot before destroying the vehicle with a High-Explosive Dual-Purpose (HEDP) grenade from his M203.
We see the M1911A1 pistol in the hands of the Delta operators as their sidearm of choice. As the two Delta snipers attempt to secure the second crash site they are forced to draw their M1911A1 pistols as the overwhelming Somali forces close in on them. Another Delta operator can be seen practicing with an M1911A1 near the beginning of the film.
The Beretta M9 pistol is seen a few times in the film in the hands of Rangers, and members of McKnight's convoy. Mainly it is seen in the hands of Maddox in the Humvee. McKnight himself carries his M9 sidearm around as a proper means to defend himself.
Chief Warrant Officer Michael Durant (Ron Eldard), a Black Hawk pilot, is armed with a Heckler & Koch MP5A3 with a slim forearm and uses it to defend himself after he's shot down. The MP5 was briefly issued to helicopter crews as a personal defense weapon (PDW), but was discontinued in this role when it was determined its' 9mm ammo lacked sufficient stopping power against armor-wearing or drug-crazed enemies, as was the case in Somalia. The guns is also briefly used by SFC Randy Shughart before being killed by the overwhelming militia.
In the book and real life, the weapons were actually MP5Ks. They were referred to as "Skinny Popper, a reference to the men's nickname for the Somalis.
The Browning M2HB heavy machine gun is fielded by both the U.S. Army HMMWVs, the U.N. APCs, and the Somali militia in the film. The opening shots of the film feature Somali militiamen slaughtering a gathered crowd at a food distribution center with the powerful fifty-cal.
During the slaughter of the crowd, The U.S. forces hovering in the MH-60 aren't cleared to fire the GE M134 Miniguns mounted on their Black Hawk. Pylon-mounted miniguns are also carried by the AH-6 Little Birds and rain lead in several scenes.
An Army Ranger, Lieutenant Tom DiTomasso, can be seen taking out a "technical" with an M72A3. The M72A3 was a Post Vietnam improved model of the M72 Rocket, and the last variation used by the U.S. Army. Upgrade versions (up to M72A7) of the LAW are being fielded by the U.S. Navy and USMC as recently as 2007.
While never used on screen, Sgt. Sanderson (William Fichtner) can be seen with a customized Remington 870 Express Magnum (standing in for an 870 Police Magnum) slung over his right shoulder. A pistol grip (minus the folding stock) is used in place of the full stock. This same setup is used on a short 870 by Charlie Sheen in the movie Navy SEALs.
Error creating thumbnail: File missingRemington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock (One seen in the movie lacked the folding stock).Error creating thumbnail: File missingSanderson with his Remington 870 Express Magnum slung over his back. Note the full length barrel.Error creating thumbnail: File missingA close up of Sanderson's 870. Also a good shot of an M733 barrel.Error creating thumbnail: File missingReceiver reads "Express Magnum" on Sanderson's 870. In real life it would have been a sturdier Police Magnum, not the cheaper, "economy priced" Express Magnum, though both are visually identical. The police magnum is the same shotgun, but built from stronger materials and has slightly different finish.
M67 Hand Grenade
While loading up for the assault, Hoot (Eric Bana) picks up M67 fragmentation hand grenades. Sgt. Sanderson is later seen throwing one into a window to take out a Somali who has him and the Deltas and Rangers pinned down.
