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I disagree entirely with your idea that flagging useless articles for deletion is wrong when they're new. There's no excuse whatsoever for dumping trash pages on the site, and the only thing that will discourage it is if it's speedily removed; even if 'many people' do this [and I'd dispute that], we should make it clear this is not how articles should be constructed; a page with no useful information, no effort put into formatting and no screenshots is pointless, and hoping a turd will turn into a diamond if you leave it alone will soon get you a backyard full of turds.<br><br>''Anyone'' can take the time and effort to write up an article to an acceptable standard in a word processor before posting it; anyone who does not is going to have their article removed. Your actions of trying to get these pages up to a standard where they are not instantly deleted are laudable, but misguided; you shouldn't be jumping to help out people who won't put the effort in themselves, you should be working on your own projects. We don't want people coming to the site with the mentality that they can put no effort at all into a page because someone else will fix it for them later, because that essentially makes us servants running around after lazy idiots. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 00:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC) | I disagree entirely with your idea that flagging useless articles for deletion is wrong when they're new. There's no excuse whatsoever for dumping trash pages on the site, and the only thing that will discourage it is if it's speedily removed; even if 'many people' do this [and I'd dispute that], we should make it clear this is not how articles should be constructed; a page with no useful information, no effort put into formatting and no screenshots is pointless, and hoping a turd will turn into a diamond if you leave it alone will soon get you a backyard full of turds.<br><br>''Anyone'' can take the time and effort to write up an article to an acceptable standard in a word processor before posting it; anyone who does not is going to have their article removed. Your actions of trying to get these pages up to a standard where they are not instantly deleted are laudable, but misguided; you shouldn't be jumping to help out people who won't put the effort in themselves, you should be working on your own projects. We don't want people coming to the site with the mentality that they can put no effort at all into a page because someone else will fix it for them later, because that essentially makes us servants running around after lazy idiots. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 00:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Also, the incomplete tag is for finding incomplete pages [it puts them into category:incomplete, so anyone who can't think of anything to do can check the | :Also, the incomplete tag is for finding incomplete pages [it puts them into category:incomplete, so anyone who can't think of anything to do can check the list to see what needs doing], and should be placed on ''any'' obviously incomplete page regardless of age. I don't see what being new has to do with that template at all. If someone doesn't want it on their new article, their new article should perhaps try not being obviously unfinished. [[User:Vangelis|Vangelis]] 01:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 01:03, 6 August 2009
Please stop changing the page formats, since I made the pages, I have the write to keep it in my prefered format. I personally find that listing ugly and cumbersome. If you make your own pages, do as you please but stop changing pages. If you continue to do it, I will be forced to block you. - Gunmaster45
- Thanks for being cooperative. - Gunmaster45
- To be fair, I messaged you after I found Mr & Mrs Smith and Shoot 'Em Up both changed back for a second time, so I figured I'd message you. I was a little harsh and I apoligize, I just got annoyed I had to change stuff back again. Sorry and thanks again. - Gunmaster45
- To add images from an online source, you first right click the image and select "Save Image As". It will save the image in your computer's files, you select how to store these images however you please. If required, open the image in a photo editing system and convert it to jpg, the prefered file name. Save the image with a name that is relevant to the image but unique so it won't save over any other images. Go to "Upload file" on the left and click browse when you reach the screen. Your computer's saved files will pop up and you select the image you saved. Write a description for the image in "Summary" section if you want. The image will upload and you will see both the image and a link name above it saying something along the lines of of "Image:example.jpg". Copy and paste that on the page you wish and you have successfuly uploaded an image. Good luck, hope I didn't make it too hard to understand. - Gunmaster45
- You need a DVD player installed on your computer and a playing system that either allows you to take captures pressing the "Print Scrn SysRq" button or a player that has a screencapping function (like mine). Without these you cannot screencap. - Gunmaster45
- Or you can use VLC Media Player.-Oliveira 12:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- You need a DVD player installed on your computer and a playing system that either allows you to take captures pressing the "Print Scrn SysRq" button or a player that has a screencapping function (like mine). Without these you cannot screencap. - Gunmaster45
- To add images from an online source, you first right click the image and select "Save Image As". It will save the image in your computer's files, you select how to store these images however you please. If required, open the image in a photo editing system and convert it to jpg, the prefered file name. Save the image with a name that is relevant to the image but unique so it won't save over any other images. Go to "Upload file" on the left and click browse when you reach the screen. Your computer's saved files will pop up and you select the image you saved. Write a description for the image in "Summary" section if you want. The image will upload and you will see both the image and a link name above it saying something along the lines of of "Image:example.jpg". Copy and paste that on the page you wish and you have successfuly uploaded an image. Good luck, hope I didn't make it too hard to understand. - Gunmaster45
VLC Media Player
You can download the son-of-a-bitch here:
Just be sure to change the image format from PNG. to JPG. Also, VLC Media Player let's you watch movies in Slow Motion and Fast Foward. Really useful for screencapping.-Oliveira 16:39, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- I can't help you on why the screencaps are so damn small, but for future reference, ALWAYS crop off the black bars. Just because some users do it (whether they should or not), it is prefered you don't keep the black bars.
Payback
Check the page again, I just moved the Beretta 92FS entry higher up on the page, because I personally feel the protagonist's guns should go at the top of the list. BTW, never just refer to the gun a a "Beretta 92", look at the Beretta page and you'll see why. The 92 is a specific model, as is the 92S, 92SB, 92F, and 92FS. - Gunmaster45
- Okay, sorry for the confusion. If it happens again, expect the same results. - Gunmaster45
- Once again, check the page again, I re-added it again as the Model 49 "Bodyguard" (the steel version, as the 38 is the aluminum version). I told you if I redo what I did before it's because I'm simply repositioning it on the page. - Gunmaster45
- It's okay, just have faith in me. I know what I'm doing. - Gunmaster45
- I removed the comment on the PPK pic because I thought I'd point out the PPK has no slide release, so the only way the slide would have gone down was if she removed the magazine and pulled the slide back to release it, in which case she would have known the gun was empty and reloaded. The follower on her magazine could have been shaved down, but it is probably safer to assume the film makers didn't know better. - Gunmaster45
- It's okay, just have faith in me. I know what I'm doing. - Gunmaster45
- Once again, check the page again, I re-added it again as the Model 49 "Bodyguard" (the steel version, as the 38 is the aluminum version). I told you if I redo what I did before it's because I'm simply repositioning it on the page. - Gunmaster45
- I apologize for removing your comments, it was kind of lazy on my behalf as I should have turned them into a caption instead of remove them entirely. I didn't mean to cut up one of your favorite films, but you have to admit, they goof up on a lot of things. I just like commenting on them. - Gunmaster45
Template
I'd assume that would be the procedure, so if you have free time and know how to properly do it, feel free to use this new template on old pages. If you need guidance go to Test Template Page and copy & paste what you can't remember. - Gunmaster45
- Oh. I personally am a little iffy on the new format (on actor pages with a ton of guns credited, the box can clutter up) but I'm outnumbered on people who love it, so I'm trying to get used to it. It appears to be the new format standards so I'm afraid it will likely stay. - Gunmaster45
- Well this format isn't being applied to Movie, Television, Anime, or Video Game articles, only gun and actor pages. Most people don't really care about them, since they are a smaller effort than articles, so a lot of people don't share the same concern. - Gunmaster45
King of the Hill
That pages in now gone as there was no info on it. Thanks -Phoenixent
Animated Pages
When I know I'll tell you, but what is considered "site-worthy" is still up to debate among some users. - Gunmaster45
Ads
At first Bunni, the guy who runs the site, used gun ads from various sponsors, but now he is using google ads apparently. Google ads cost no money for him to use yet he still makes money, at the cost of him not choosing what is sponsored. So only the google ads are randomly selected. - Gunmaster45
Smith & Wesson hammers
To be honest, I'm not sure. I've seen the newest stainless S&Ws today that still have the that style hammer, so it is possible they still haven't adopted the design yet. - Gunmaster45
Re: 1911 adaptation
The 1911 pistols used in the early films fall into three categories. (1) 1911 used strictly as a hand prop has in waving it around or in a holster. (2) Fired live on set. This is something that was done in the 1920's and 1930's just prior to blank adapting. The scene would be of shooting a door or car trunk lid by the actor. (3) 1911 lookalikes which were a cast aluminum clam shell that looked like a 1911 but held a Colt Detective Special of Iver Johnson revolvers. These we used from 1930's to the early 1960's since the 1911 pistols could not fire more than one round. In most of your early films the autos used were the Colt 1903 Hammerless or another pistol that was similar. The reason for this was they are a direct blowback design so they were easy to convert to blanks. The 1911 is a delayed blowback design since the barrel is not fixed it cams up and down. The armories had to figure out how to get this to work with blanks. It took several different armorers 30 years to develop the blanks and the blank conversion to work in the 45 caliber 1911. The film industry was able to use the Star Model B as a stand in for the 1911 from the 1950's until 1970's and the 9mm was easier to convert than the 45 auto. As for how the 1911 are converted I can not pass on that information since I still work in the industry. But you can find other conversions online used by reenactors which are close. -Phoenixent 07:07, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
Early Blank Adaption and Live Fire
The early films using Maxim or Vickers firing used blanks also but not the blanks we use today. The blanks used in the early movies were military blanks that had either a wood or paper bullet. The blank adapter on both the Maxim and the Vickers was designed to shred the wood or paper bullets. But by using those types of blanks the weapon would work as intended. It was not until the use of wadded or crimped blank that the weapons had to be redesigned to function properly as there was no pressure build up like the blanks with the wooden bullets. The live rounds fired on set in the early days were standard rounds. Most of the time they would have a expert shooter off camera firing toward the actors location right after they moved. You can spot this in early westerns when a bullet strikes a sign it's a bullet hole and not a squib hit. It is harder to spot these in the early gangster movies but they are there also. The use of blanks came became a standard on set after a incident on a Cagney movie after that movie no live fire were allowed on set. - Phoenixent 08:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Put this on Gunmaster's talk page, but I'll put it on yours too.
I disagree entirely with your idea that flagging useless articles for deletion is wrong when they're new. There's no excuse whatsoever for dumping trash pages on the site, and the only thing that will discourage it is if it's speedily removed; even if 'many people' do this [and I'd dispute that], we should make it clear this is not how articles should be constructed; a page with no useful information, no effort put into formatting and no screenshots is pointless, and hoping a turd will turn into a diamond if you leave it alone will soon get you a backyard full of turds.
Anyone can take the time and effort to write up an article to an acceptable standard in a word processor before posting it; anyone who does not is going to have their article removed. Your actions of trying to get these pages up to a standard where they are not instantly deleted are laudable, but misguided; you shouldn't be jumping to help out people who won't put the effort in themselves, you should be working on your own projects. We don't want people coming to the site with the mentality that they can put no effort at all into a page because someone else will fix it for them later, because that essentially makes us servants running around after lazy idiots. Vangelis 00:50, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Also, the incomplete tag is for finding incomplete pages [it puts them into category:incomplete, so anyone who can't think of anything to do can check the list to see what needs doing], and should be placed on any obviously incomplete page regardless of age. I don't see what being new has to do with that template at all. If someone doesn't want it on their new article, their new article should perhaps try not being obviously unfinished. Vangelis 01:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)