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[[File:MSBS-5,56.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MSBS-5.56B Radon 2011 design mock-up - 5.56x45mm]] | [[File:MSBS-5,56.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MSBS-5.56B Radon 2011 design mock-up - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[file:Msbs2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MSBS-5.56 Radon series; on the left, compact carbine, standard rifle, grenadier rifle, and what appear to be respectively a light support weapon (note extended magazine) and marksman rifle version. On the right, standard rifle (with some kind of muzzle device fitted), light support weapon and marksman rifle.]] | [[file:Msbs2.jpg|thumb|none|400px|MSBS-5.56 Radon series; on the left, compact carbine, standard rifle, grenadier rifle, and what appear to be respectively a light support weapon (note extended magazine) and marksman rifle version. On the right, standard rifle (with some kind of muzzle device fitted), light support weapon and marksman rifle.]] | ||
=Samopowtarzalny karabin wyborowy MSBS GROT kaliber 7,62x51mm= | |||
Currently, the weapon does not have an official name. At trade fairs, the gun was labeled "Samopowtarzalny karabin wyborowy MSBS GROT kaliber 7,62x51mm". ENG - "Semi-automatic sniper rifle MSBS GROT, caliber 7.62x51mm". | |||
[[File:MSBS GROT 762.jpg|thumb|right|400px|Samopowtarzalny karabin wyborowy MSBS Grot kaliber 7,62x51mm - 7.62x51mm (Prototype 2019)]] | |||
==Specifications== | |||
(Development 2016-present) | |||
* '''Manufacturer:''' [[Fabryka Broni Radom]] | |||
* '''Type:''' Semi-Auto Sniper Rifle. (Modular Rifle) | |||
* '''Caliber:''' 7.62x51mm | |||
* '''Length:''' ?? | |||
* '''Barrel length:''' 406mm and 508mm | |||
* '''Weight:''' ?? | |||
* '''Feed System:''' [[STANAG]] magazines | |||
* '''Fire Modes:''' Semi-Auto | |||
=Discussion= | =Discussion= | ||
Revision as of 03:55, 2 September 2021
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Samopowtarzalny karabin wyborowy MSBS GROT kaliber 7,62x51mm
Currently, the weapon does not have an official name. At trade fairs, the gun was labeled "Samopowtarzalny karabin wyborowy MSBS GROT kaliber 7,62x51mm". ENG - "Semi-automatic sniper rifle MSBS GROT, caliber 7.62x51mm".
Specifications
(Development 2016-present)
- Manufacturer: Fabryka Broni Radom
- Type: Semi-Auto Sniper Rifle. (Modular Rifle)
- Caliber: 7.62x51mm
- Length: ??
- Barrel length: 406mm and 508mm
- Weight: ??
- Feed System: STANAG magazines
- Fire Modes: Semi-Auto
Discussion
"Radon"
I was wondering whether we should refer to the MSBS as the "Radon". As far as I know, it was a name that won a contest hosted by a Polish magazine (can't remember which), but the creators of the rifle never referred to it as such. Officially it's still the "MSBS 5,56", with Radon being a fan-made nickname. Tanaj (talk) 09:51, 20 March 2014 (EDT)
- It was "Strzal" magazine. You're right - "Radon" is not an official name for MSBS (though the contest was held with cooperation from FB Radom). Most gun magazines/portals, and FB themselves, refer to the gun as "MSBS-5,56K/B/R". "K" stays for "kolba" (stock) or "konwencjonalny" (conventional), "B" is for "bezkolbowy" (stock-less - bullpup) and "R" for "reprezentacyjny" (representational - variant for our honor guard). To add a bit of spice the 16" barrel variant of MSBS-5,56K is developed under military-funded program "MSBS", while short-barreled variant, LMG, DMR and MSBS-5,56B variants are developed under "MSBS-5,56 RAWAT" program funded by our Ministry of Science. "RAWAT" is made from words "Radom" (city of manufacturer) and "WAT" (Military Institute of Technology in Warsaw). MSBS-5,56R was private initiative of FB Radom and (oh irony!) have biggest chances to be actually fielded (our honor guards use 50 years old SKS rifles). Chris22lr (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2014 (EDT)
Jossed. Official name is GROT.--Dannyguns (talk) 06:06, 30 September 2017 (EDT)
Also appear in Crossfire
http://crossfirefps.wikia.com/wiki/MSBS-5.56 also I made some screen on my tablet, but I dont known how to upload it. --Dannyguns (talk) 06:13, 10 November 2016 (EST)
- You can find Upload file in toolbox at the bottom left. IMFDB Style Guide contain useful advices on editing pages. Greg-Z (talk) 07:00, 10 November 2016 (EST)
They are PGN so it dont let me upload. But good this page got a new entry :) --Dannyguns (talk) 10:23, 7 December 2016 (EST)
Differences between MSBS and ACR
Somebody can explain me? --Dannyguns (talk) 03:59, 9 December 2016 (EST)
- Internally speaking, the ACR is akin to an AR-15 while the Radon is similar to a G36, they just happen to look almost the same but one can notice the various external parts, the MSBS has a different takedown lever and placement of screws AND charging handle (ACR = on the handguard, MSBS = on the reciever).--Death Shadow20 (talk) 08:30, 9 December 2016 (EST)
Thank you. --Dannyguns (talk) 08:30, 12 December 2016 (EST)
Call of Duty's MSBS
The 3 round burst is not incorrect. Check the FB website http://fabrykabroni.pl/en/produkty/karabiny/msbs/ --Dannyguns (talk) 10:48, 14 December 2016 (EST)
- you should probably post this on the CoD Chosts page and note here.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 11:01, 14 December 2016 (EST)
- Chosts page and note... hail to grammar nazi lel --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 16:07, 14 December 2016 (EST)
1v1 rust me twat--AnActualAK47 (talk) 16:22, 14 December 2016 (EST)
- No, here at IMFDB we only allow Fox only, no items, Final Destination. Evil Tim (talk) 17:30, 14 December 2016 (EST)
Adoption
Is that gun already adopted by Polish Armed Forces apart from -R variant? --Dannyguns (talk) 05:24, 29 April 2017 (EDT)
Over complicated name...
Not only the name changed from "Radon" to "GROT", but got a over-complicated designation sistem: C,R,B : classic,representative or bullpup 10,16,20 : barrel lenght G,M,PS: if is configurated as "grenadier",IAR or marksman rifle. FB: name of manufacturer Mx : x stands for number of series.
So in this case the name of standard MSBS-K become C16FB-M1.
So in future appereance of this guns, we should retain the MSBS moniker or the new variant? --Dannyguns (talk) 10:07, 30 September 2017 (EDT)