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[[Image:NS-AK47-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A terrorist stands next ot Shaheed while holding an AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:NS-AK47-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A terrorist stands next ot Shaheed while holding an AK-47 - 7.62x39mm]]


==[[AK-47|AKS-47]]==
==AKS-47==
The underfolding version of the [[AK-47]] (also sometimes referred to as the AK47 Type 3B (Type 3 indicating type of receiver and B indicating folding metal stock).  The underfolding AKS-47s in the movie are milled receiver Russian type guns, one of the few times we actually see real AK-47s (or really close copies) in a U.S. made film.
An [[AKS-47]] (also sometimes referred to as the AK47 Type 3B; Type 3 indicating type of receiver and B indicating folding metal stock) is used by the Christian Lebanese boy during the mission in Beruit.  The underfolding AKS-47s in the movie are milled receiver Russian type guns, one of the few times we actually see real AK-47s (or really close copies) in a U.S. made film. Some of the SEALs guns change from [[AKMS]]'s into AKS-47s due to continuity error.
[[Image:NavySEALS-AK47SA.jpg‎ |thumb|none|500px|Christian Lebanese Boy fires his AKS-47 underfolding stock rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:Aks47e.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKS-47 Type I Pattern - 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:NavySEALS-AK47SA.jpg‎|thumb|none|500px|Christian Lebanese Boy fires his AKS-47 - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:NS-AKS47-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt. Curran ([[Michael Biehn]]) falls through the floor and we see a close up of his AKS-47, which changed from an AKMS due to continuity error - 7.62x29mm.]]
 
==AKM==
Some of the terrorists in the film are seen using [[AKM]] rifles in the film.
[[Image:AKMRifle.jpg|thumb|none|400px|AKM - 7.62x39mm.]]
[[Image:NS-AKM-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A terrorist armed with an AKM is destroyed by a .50 caliber round from Dane's ([[Bill Paxton]]) rifle - 7.62x39mm]]
[[Image:NS-AKM-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Navy SEAL playing an opposing forces soldier fires his AKM during a training excercise - 7.62x39mm]]


==[[AK-47|AKMS]]==
==[[AK-47|AKMS]]==

Revision as of 07:02, 1 July 2009

The following guns were used in the film Navy SEALs

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Navy SEALs (1990)

Beretta 92SB

Beretta 92SB pistols are the sidearms of the SEAL team members in the film, although in reality the Beretta M9 was issued during the time the film was made. The Beretta 92SB was in fact issued to the United States Airforce until the M9 replaced that role as well.

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Beretta 92SB - 9mm.
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Lt. Dale Hawkins (Charlie Sheen) plays with his Beretta 92SB - 9mm. Despite being a well trained operative, he is toying with a loaded firearm, safety off, and finger on the trigger.
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Lt. James Curran (Michael Biehn) aims his Beretta 92SB while in Beruit - 9mm
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Ramos (Paul Sanchez) aims his Beretta 92SB - 9mm

Beretta 92SB Inox

Ramos (Paul Sanchez) carries a Beretta 92SB Inox as a secondary weapon during the first raid. Somewhat unlikely since a SEAL team member would not carry a weapon that's so flashy in a night raid.

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Ramos holds a Beretta 92SB Inox in addition to his MP5SD3 - 9mm

SIG-Sauer P210

A terrorist used a SIG-Sauer P210 pistol to execute one of the American Helicopter Crewmen.

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SIG-Sauer P210 - 9mm.
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A terrorist wields a SIG-Sauer P210 pistol - 9mm

Skorpion SA Vz 61

A terrorist on the merchant ship holds a woman hostage with a Skorpion SA Vz 61 submachine gun, though it is never fired.

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Skorpion SA Vz 61 - .32 ACP.
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A terrorist wields a Skorpion SA Vz 61 - .32 ACP. Note how the bolt is locked back, possibley as a safety precaution for holding the weapon on an actor.

Heckler & Koch MP5SD3

Heckler & Koch MP5SD3s are used by the SEAL team throught out the film. They appear to be older model MP5SDs as noted by their smaller ribbing on the front grips.

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Heckler & Koch MP5SD3 - 9mm.
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Lt. James Curran (Michael Biehn) aims his Heckler & Koch MP5SD3 - 9mm
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Graham (Dennis Haysbert) fires his Heckler & Koch MP5SD3 - 9mm
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Lt. Dale Hawkins (Charlie Sheen) fires his Heckler & Koch MP5SD3 - 9mm

Heckler & Koch MP5K

A Heckler & Koch MP5K is used by at least one of the SEALs during the hostage rescue mission, and later during a live fire training excercise.

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Heckler & Koch MP5K with SEF trigger group - 9mm.
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A SEAL member armed with a Heckler & Koch MP5K during the hostage rescue - 9mm
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Heckler & Koch MP5Ks are obvious in the hands of several SEAL team members. In reality no SEAL team would ever conduct a 'surprise' live fire exercise around a civilian. It would not be tolerated by the US Navy.

Remington 870

Lt. Dale Hawkins (Charlie Sheen) uses a Remington 870 Polie Magnum shotgun with a 14" barrel and black plastic pistol grip as his backup weapon and door breach gun.

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Remington 870 Police Magnum with folding stock - 12 Gauge. Gun in film has stock removed and 18" barrel sawed down to 14".
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A good shot of the pistol grip on the Remingotn 870 shotgun - 12ga
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Hawkins (Charlie Sheen) blows the locks off a door with his Remington 870 shotgun - 12ga

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Hawkins (Charlie Sheen) firing his Remington 870 - 12ga

Colt Commando

In several scenes some of the SEALs are seen carrying M16 rifle series#Colt XM177/CAR-15/Commando Series Colt Commando rifles, notabley during a training excercise and during the mission where Graham (Dennis Haysbert) is killed. Some of them are seen fitted with M203 grenade launchers. This movie is one of the very few films where we see an actual XM177 or GAU-5/A rifle (or a very close copy, being that the sound suppressor/flashhiders of the original XM177 were not good for blank firing guns, so many times an existing M16 rifle was custom modified to resemble the XM177. In the 1980s there were a slew of various aftermarket XM177 style flash hiders - some were very accurate, some were not.) At any rate, this is one of the most accurate portrayals of an XM177 in modern U.S. Cinema. The weapon is prominantly displayed on the movie poster in the hands of Lt. Dale Hawkins (Charlie Sheen), fitted with an M203, although he never uses one in the film.

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AR-15 Sporter 1 Carbine mocked up as Colt XM177E2 Carbine - 5.56x45mm.
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Leary (Rick Rossovich) fires an XM177 rifle during a firefight in a training excercise - 5.56x45mm
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Graham (Dennis Haysbert) fires an XM177 rifle - fitted with an M203 - during a firefight in a training excercise - 5.56x45mm
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Lt. James Curran's (Michael Biehn) XM177 rifle. It is the first model XM177 rifle, with a 10" barrel, first pattern handguard ring and a first model M16/SP1 style receiver - 5.56x45mm

Barrett M82

A Barret M82 is used by Dane - call sign "God" (Bill Paxton), the SEAL team sniper to engage four targets during the hostage rescue mission and again during the Beirut mission. The weapon used is the first model Barrett, the M82 (the same used in the film RoboCop), outfitted with a Thermal Imaging Sight and Star Light. The later M82A1 version is the most recognizable version of the semiautomatic Barrett Light Fifty rifle.

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Barrett M82A1 - .50 BMG.
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Dane (Bill Paxton) fires his Barrett M82 - .50 bmg
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Dane (Bill Paxton) uses his Barret M82 to shoot an attacking terrorist - .50 BMG. The weapon is portrayed in the film as a ridiculously powerful cannon capable of punching "pizza-pie" holes in walls and launching people off their feet.
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A good side shot of the Barret M82 when Dale (Bill Paxton) uses it to save Lt. Curran (Michael Biehn) from a terrorist - .50 BMG
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Ramos (Paul Sanchez) uses Dane's Barret M82 to kill a well-covered terrorist in one of the buildings - .50 BMG

RPG-7

RPG-7s are used by the terrorists during the mission in Beruit. The rockets show two distinct paint schemes, a darker green paint job, flaking off showing the original yellowish/OD Russian paint underneath.

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A terrorist aims his RPG-7 at the SEAL team as they attempt to drive away in a stolen Mercedes - 70mm
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A terrorist fires his RPG-7 with a Chinese sling and iron sights - 70mm

AK-47

Ben Shaheed's (Nicholas Kadi) militia use what look to be original AK-47s in the film. Many of them appear to be milled receiver AKs with Russian front sights and double tang back ends with the typical 'drop down' angled buttstock (with unique Type II Pattern stock mounting bracket) and the swivel sling on the body, not the stock. They could have been Poly-Technology Legend series of AKs that were imported during the 1980s (this movie was shot in 1989 and released in 1990). It is also possible that like in more current movies such as We Were Soldiers, the armorers could have used Milled receiver bodies and assembled AKs from Russian Parts kits. Since the sequence that was supposed to be Beirut was shot in Spain, the production could have used weapons provided by European Armorers (who at the time had no restrictions on acquiring Soviet/Russian guns).

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AK-47 Type II Pattern - 7.62x39mm.
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A terrorist gunned down by the SEALs drops his AK-47 - 7.62x39mm. Note milled reciever and reciever mounted sling swivel.
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Terrorists fire their AK-47s at the SEALs as they escape into the ocean - 7.62x39mm. Note how the front two guns have stock mounting brackets and stock mounted sling swivels, while the back gun has a reciever mounted stock and sling swivel.
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A terrorist stands next ot Shaheed while holding an AK-47 - 7.62x39mm

AKS-47

An AKS-47 (also sometimes referred to as the AK47 Type 3B; Type 3 indicating type of receiver and B indicating folding metal stock) is used by the Christian Lebanese boy during the mission in Beruit. The underfolding AKS-47s in the movie are milled receiver Russian type guns, one of the few times we actually see real AK-47s (or really close copies) in a U.S. made film. Some of the SEALs guns change from AKMS's into AKS-47s due to continuity error.

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AKS-47 Type I Pattern - 7.62x39mm.
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Christian Lebanese Boy fires his AKS-47 - 7.62x39mm
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Lt. Curran (Michael Biehn) falls through the floor and we see a close up of his AKS-47, which changed from an AKMS due to continuity error - 7.62x29mm.

AKM

Some of the terrorists in the film are seen using AKM rifles in the film.

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AKM - 7.62x39mm.
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A terrorist armed with an AKM is destroyed by a .50 caliber round from Dane's (Bill Paxton) rifle - 7.62x39mm
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A Navy SEAL playing an opposing forces soldier fires his AKM during a training excercise - 7.62x39mm

AKMS

Used extensively during the Beirut Mission by both SEALs and the Opposition Force fighters, the AKMS is the underfolding version of the AKM rifle. These could be converted Maadi ARM/MISR rifles imported into the U.S. or real Russian rifles provided by European Armory houses for the filming in Spain.

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AKMS, stamped steel receiver w/ slant muzzle brake and under-folding stock - 7.62x39mm
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Hawkins (Charlie Sheen) fires his AKMS in a Beirut night battle - 7.62x39mm
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Rexer (Cyril O'Reilly) holds an AKMS when he receives the news of Dane's death - 7.62x39mm

Chinese NMD-83

In the 1980s, there were two Chinese imported versions of the RPK (none of which looked very good).

Not to be confused with the Yugo RPKs imported by Mitchell Arms or the Maadi RPK clones, nor the Norinco NHM-91 which was a post 1989 import gun with a thumbhole stock and no barrel threads.

One of the pre-1989 ban guns was the NMD-83 - it had a 21" barrel, a standard AK stock and a muzzle brake (none of which was accurate for the RPK). They also imported a second RPK clone (whose name escape me) that had a Chinese style club foot stock but placed the bipod BEFORE (!!) the front sight, not after it, affixed to a long muzzle brake. This also looked atrocious and not many were sold. Not sure about the exact names of the Chinese RPK clones, since they didn't sell very well (hopefully someone who actually has a pre-1989 gun can let us know the exact name).

In the film, Leary (Rick Rossovich) carries what is supposed to be an RPK light machine gun. It appears to be a modified NMD-83 rifle converted to full auto fire. The barrel was lengthened from 21" to 23.25" which is more correct and the muzzle brake was removed. The short bipod was removed and a longer (though tubular, not rectangular) Chinese Bipod was attached (see pic). The Chinese Style front sight with the enclosed top hood was still used. Errors in the gun's modification are (a) the barrel is not an RPK heavy barrel but a long standard AK barrel, (b) The front foregrip is still a standard AK, in fact it's a Chinese Type 56 style, with the slot for the pig sticker bayonet, which is wrong, (c) the buttstock is the Chinese style clubfoot stock, not the thicker, more angular Russian RPK stock and (d) the receiver appears to be a standard Type 56 stamped receiver without the reinforcing bar of the RPK.

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Leary (Rick Rossovich) carries a fake RPK, most likely a converted Chinese NMD-83 rifle - 7.62x39mm
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Detail shot of the front sight of the fake RPK, most likely a converted Chinese NMD-83 rifle - 7.62x39mm