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| And if it's a television show it should be "In the Television Show"
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| And if it's a Video Game it should be "In the Video Game"
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| And the same applies to the "Date of Film/Television Show/ Video Game".
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| What do you guys think?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:20, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :Actually, we could just say "Title", and that would work just as well. Other than that, I think the columns as MPM has named them work best. Of course, the first two columns would simply be excised from any video game page. Remember, we want it to be as simple and easy to standardize as possible. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:31, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::I wanted the templates to be more specific. The two columns would be exercised from video game pages though which is why this template isn't perfect. I still think the more specific version is better.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:40, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :::I dunno, I just don't see much advantage to being so specific. Whereas I worry that some users will ignore the format if they try making new pages (it sounds unbelievable, I know, but people really can be lazy when it comes to following page conventions - look how many people I've had to tell to either use gun page links on their movie pages, or not put the gun page links in the heading). -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 21:48, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :Users ignoring page formats is always worrying. I like being specific. I always specific in my life. The template being specific makes it look more professional.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 21:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::I'll be sure to give this a try next time I make a gun page. I'm not a huge fan of change though, but this definately looks more professional than before. Oh, and looking at how to do this, I think I'll have to copy and paste from this page, because I can't remember all that greek. There isn't anyway this could be turned into an actual template, is there? - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]]
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| :::I think there is but i'm not sure.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| : I added the set up for TV, Anime and Video Games. I think the a notes column needs to be added but I am not sure were to place it. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
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| ::Mods? I don't get it.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:25, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Mods are modification or upgrades used during the game play or unlocked during the game. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
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| ::::Oh, you mean like in the case of MGS4, cheats?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| : More like 1911 changing to a hi-cap 1911 as in Godfather.-[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
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| ::Like upgrades then? I'm sorry but i'm being annoying aren't i?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:45, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::: Exactly like an upgrade, No problem on the questions it all new to this layout. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
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| ::Thank you for not thinking that i am annoying. I can see how being specific can complicate things however.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 22:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::OK, I think I like the way this is shaping up a bit better. The only thing I would recommend is that we widen the "Note" column a bit more. For instance, on the Calico page, the "Note" column would say "as the M1-L1 Triple Pulse rifle" for the movie ''[[Deep Rising]]''. As the column is now, it would be a bit too narrow to fit that text in. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] 02:12, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::What is Satin Nickel?-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 16:21, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::: Satin Nickel is a finish of nickel that is dulled by bead blasting the metal prior to having the item nickel plated. Makes it look like stainless steel but wit a white/yellow tint. The SP89/MP5K on [[Speed]] were satin nickel so are some Colt MKIV Series 70 pistols.-[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]]
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| ::::Thanks Steve, good info as usual. :)
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| ::::Now,here is a visual comparison for those folks don't know what a finish is.
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| ::::Here is a Satin Nickel Finished pistol
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| ::::[[Image:NickelM1911A1.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Satin Nickel M1911]]
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| ::::Here is a Brushed Stainless pistol
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| ::::[[Image:SpringfieldM1911SS.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Brushed Stainless M1911]]
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| ::::They don't look all that different. The Stainless Steel finish is MUCH more durable and will last much longer.
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| ::::Here is a bright nickel finish (and the most difficult to PHOTOGRAPH) it's almost like photographing into a mirror....
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| ::::[[Image:M1911A1-AutoOrdChrome PF.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bright Nickel Auto Ord M1911]]
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| ::::Here is a bright stainless finish (and the 2nd most difficult to PHOTOGRAPH) I had to pick my Model 66 since it was really the only bright Stainless handgun I had, the so called bright Stainless semiautos were only semi bright. I consider a a gun to have a bright finish when I can clearly see my own reflection in the gun.
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| ::::[[Image:Smith-&-Wesson-Model-66.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Bright Stainless S&W Model 66]]
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| ::::MPM
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| :Jesus, Satin guns are really ugly. They are really cheap looking. Anyway, i think the templates should be more specific. Like the ones in the [[Daewoo K3]] Page. Instead of Satin Nickel it should be the "The Gun was painted with Satin Nickel.".-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:02, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::Now you're getting annoying ;) No one PAINTS a gun with satin nickel. Satin nickel is an accepted finish, like bright nickel, stainless steel, parkerized, blued, matte blued, etc. And the opinion that a gun is ugly simply because it has a satin nickel finish is purely in the eye of the beholder MPM
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| :::Oh, i didn't now that. Then what is called the act of making giving a gun a finish? I just find then cheap looking. That's all.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 17:59, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::I prefer sample #1. #1 looks really professional and organized.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC) | | ::I prefer sample #1. #1 looks really professional and organized.-[[User:Oliveira|Oliveira]] 15:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC) |
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