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|name = Ernst Thälmann - Son of his Class<br />Ernst Thälmann - Sohn seiner Klasse | |name = Ernst Thälmann - Son of his Class<br />Ernst Thälmann - Sohn seiner Klasse | ||
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[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Luger1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Luger is used by Fiete Jansen ([[Hans-Peter Minetti]]) during an ambush of the 1923 Hamburg Uprising. The man next to him holds a Gew. 88.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Luger1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Luger is used by Fiete Jansen ([[Hans-Peter Minetti]]) during an ambush of the 1923 Hamburg Uprising. The man next to him holds a Gew. 88.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Luger2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alland fires his Luger during the same ambush.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Luger2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Alland fires his Luger during the same ambush.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Luger3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''Hauptmann'' Quadde ([[Werner Peters]]) leads a charge on a ''Spartakus'' | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Luger3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''Hauptmann'' Quadde ([[Werner Peters]]) leads a charge on a ''Spartakus'' newspaper barricade.]] | ||
=Rifles= | =Rifles= | ||
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[[Image:Mauser g98.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser Gewehr 1898 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:Mauser g98.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser Gewehr 1898 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[Image:MauserG98M.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser Gewehr 1898M - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:MauserG98M.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser Gewehr 1898M - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Hannes Harms ([[Wilfried Ortmann]]) with his Gewehr | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|While on his way to developing an important message for his comrades, Hannes Harms ([[Wilfried Ortmann]]) takes cover with his Gewehr.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A G98 hanging between German soldiers in a shelter.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-1-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A G98 hanging between German soldiers in a shelter.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''Freikorps'' officers getting arrested with Gew. 98s.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''Freikorps'' officers getting arrested with Gew. 98s.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Red members take the police's rifles. Note the different rear sights: The left Gewehrs have post-war tangent leaf rear | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Red members take the police's rifles. Note the different rear sights: The left Gewehrs have post-war tangent-leaf rear sight while the right rifles have ''Lange Visier''s.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Insurgent with their Gewehr 98s before the Hamburg uprising.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gewehr98-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Gewehr of the soldier in the background is fitted with an SG 98/05 bayonet.]] | ||
==Karabiner 98AZ== | ==Karabiner 98AZ== | ||
A broken rifle that could be a [[Karabiner 98AZ]] is briefly seen lying in the mud. | A broken rifle that could be a [[Karabiner 98AZ]] is briefly seen lying in the mud. | ||
[[File:Mauser 98AZ Artillery Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Karabiner 98AZ - 7.92x57mm]] | [[File:Mauser 98AZ Artillery Carbine.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Karabiner 98AZ - 7.92x57mm]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Rifle.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the grasping groove, tangent-leaf rear sight and the missing bolt handle.]] | ||
==Karabiner 98b== | ==Karabiner 98b== | ||
During various uprisings of the 1920s in the Weimar Republic, ''Reichswehr'' troops can be seen with [[Karabiner 98b]]. Some of them are equipped with S84/98 bayonets for the [[Karabiner 98k]]. | |||
[[Image:Karabiner 98b.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser Karabiner 98b - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:Karabiner 98b.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Mauser Karabiner 98b - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Karabinerb1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier getting hit by a stone holds a Karabiner 98b.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Karabinerb1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier getting hit by a stone holds a Karabiner 98b. The rifle has a bent bolt handle, tangent-leaf rear sight, and full-length barrel.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Karabinerb2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|This Kar 98b | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Karabinerb2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|This Kar 98b seems also to be equipped with an S84/98 bayonet.]] | ||
==Gewehr 1888/05== | ==Gewehr 1888/05== | ||
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[[Image:G88 05.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Gewehr 1888/05 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:G88 05.jpg|thumb|none|450px|Gewehr 1888/05 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gew88-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Members of the Kapp Putsch marching with Gewehr 88 rifles.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gew88-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Members of the Kapp Putsch marching with Gewehr 88 rifles.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gew88-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One ''Freikorps'' officer tries to hold back insurgents.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gew88-2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|One ''Freikorps'' officer tries to hold back insurgents with the buttstock of his rifle.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gew88-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An insurgent points his Gew. 88 at a Kapp | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gew88-3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An insurgent points his Gew. 88 at a Kapp Putsch member. Note the swastika on their helmets as a sign of their warlike appearance.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gew88-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gew88-4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A line of red insurgents armed with Gew. 88.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gew88-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Police forces advancing in the streets. Their rifles have side | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Gew88-5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Police forces advancing in the streets of Berlin. Their rifles have side-mounted bayonets.]] | ||
==Karabiner 1888== | ==Karabiner 1888== | ||
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[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''Reichswehr'' soldiers transporting the Maxim to crack down the Spartacist uprising in 1919.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|''Reichswehr'' soldiers transporting the Maxim to crack down the Spartacist uprising in 1919.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A ''Spartakist'' defends the encircled building. In this scene, and in many more, the gunner and belt carrier only wiggle the gun/ammo belt. The top cover is not closed properly and bobs up and down.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A ''Spartakist'' defends the encircled building. In this scene, and in many more, the gunner and belt carrier only wiggle the gun/ammo belt. The top cover is not closed properly and bobs up and down.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Soldiers awating the command to open fire at demantrants.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim3-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim3-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A ''Reichswehr'' Maxim team trying to repeal an ambush in a street of Hamburg.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim4.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Otto Kramer ([[Gerhard Bienert]]) mans an MG08.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim5.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim6.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | ||
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An abandoned Russian [[Maxim M1910]] lies next to a German trench. | An abandoned Russian [[Maxim M1910]] lies next to a German trench. | ||
[[Image:Maxim1910.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim M1910 with 'Sokolov' wheel mount, w/o shield - 7.62x54mmR]] | [[Image:Maxim1910.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim M1910 with 'Sokolov' wheel mount, w/o shield - 7.62x54mmR]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-RMaxim1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-RMaxim1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The end box is seen on the left.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-RMaxim2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-RMaxim2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Note the ribbed water jacket.]] | ||
==Maxim MG08/15== | ==Maxim MG08/15== | ||
What appears to be a [[Maxim MG08/15]] modified with a fore mounted bipod is briefly seen. | What appears to be a [[Maxim MG08/15]] modified with a fore mounted bipod is briefly seen. | ||
[[Image:Maxim MG08-15.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim MG08/15 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | [[Image:Maxim MG08-15.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Maxim MG08/15 - 7.92x57mm Mauser]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim0815.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim0815.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An unused MG08/15 with the fore mounted bipod is seen on the right.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim0815-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Maxim0815-1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two soldiers on the right seem to be using this Maxim as well. It is ]] | ||
=Other= | =Other= | ||
==Flare Gun== | ==Flare Gun== | ||
An unknown flare is used by a German officer during the trench defending. | An unknown flare gun is used by a German officer during the trench defending. | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-FlareGun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-FlareGun.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The flare gun is seen with the standing soldier next to the entrance of the shelter.]] | ||
==Stielhandgranate== | ==Stielhandgranate== | ||
Stick grenade mockups that resemble [[Model 16 Stielhandgranate]]s are used by soldiers and insurgents. | Stick grenade mockups that resemble [[Model 16 Stielhandgranate]]s are used by soldiers and insurgents. The fact that there are only 2 grenades seen at a time suggests that there were only 2 mockups. | ||
[[Image:M16stick.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Model 16 Stielhandgranate "Potato Masher" High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]] | [[Image:M16stick.jpg|thumb|none|350px|Model 16 Stielhandgranate "Potato Masher" High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Stickgrenade1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Stickgrenade1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A stick grenade attched to Alland's belt.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Stickgrenade2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Stickgrenade2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two ''Stielhandgranate''n in front of Alland.]] | ||
==10.5-cm-leichte Feldhaubitze 18== | ==10.5-cm-leichte Feldhaubitze 18== | ||
Anachronistic leichte Feldhaubitze 18 howitzers are used by German soldiers and Kapp putschists. | |||
[[Image:LeFH1840.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Leichte Feldhaubitze 18/40 field gun displayed in Hämeenlinna Artillery Museum - 105mm]] | [[Image:LeFH1840.jpg|thumb|none|400px|Leichte Feldhaubitze 18/40 field gun displayed in Hämeenlinna Artillery Museum - 105mm]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Lefh1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Lefh1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A lFh 18 under the command of ''Hauptmann'' Quadde on the Western Front.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Lefh2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Lefh2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A light howeitzer being pushed into position during streetfighting against Spartacists in 1919.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Lefh3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Lefh3.jpg|thumb|none|500px|At the start of the 1920 Kapp Putsch, putschists uncover a hidden howitzer from a barn.]] | ||
==15-cm-schweres Infanteriegeschütz 33== | ==15-cm-schweres Infanteriegeschütz 33== | ||
Schweres Infanteriegeschütz 33, also anachristic for WWI and the early 1920s, can be seen. | |||
[[File:sIG33.jpg|thumb|none|400px|15-cm-schweres Infanteriegeschütz (''sIG'') 33.]] | [[File:sIG33.jpg|thumb|none|400px|15-cm-schweres Infanteriegeschütz (''sIG'') 33.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-sIG1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An sIG 33 can be seen in the left distance.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-sIG1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|An sIG 33 in No Man's Land can be seen in the left distance.]] | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-sIG2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The gun being towed in the right.]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-sIG2.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The gun being towed in the right.]] | ||
==Mk A Whippet tank== | ==Mk A Whippet tank== | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Whippet.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | A British Mk A Whippet tank is used by the ''Freikorps'' during the Spartacist Uprising in 1919. This tank seems to be a real one rather than a mockup that could be purchased from the Soviet Union for the movie. Historically the use of this tank is correct; the Whippet tank "A249" was used by the ''Freikorps''. This tank was captured by German troops in 1918 at Bray, France. After the uprising, the Allies took it back and was then scrapped. | ||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Whippet.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The tanks provides covering fire for the advancing infantry.]] | |||
==Armored Car== | ==Armored Car== | ||
An armored car is used by the ''Reichswehr'' in Hamburg, which is a replica to resemble an Ehrhardt E-V/4. | |||
[[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Armored Car.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | [[File:ErnstThälmannSon-Armored Car.jpg|thumb|none|500px|]] | ||
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Ernst Thälmann - Son of his Class is a 1954 East-German movie directed by Kurt Maetzig and Johannes Arpe. In November 1918, a leaflet reaches the German soldiers on the Western Front urging them to do the same as the Russian peasants and workers and actively fight against their oppression. Tählmann, who had long since realized the futility of the war and was serving his time as an involuntary soldier, began to fight alongside his comrades immediately after his return home. However, the working class's attempt to revolt is prevented by right-wing social democrats, and the working class is threatened with depolarization.
The following weapons were used in the film Ernst Thälmann - Son of his Class:
Pistols
Luger P08
German officers including Hauptmann Alland (Adolf Peter Hoffmann) and some soldiers can be seen with Luger P08s.
Rifles
Gewehr 1898
The Gewehr 98 is widely used by German soldiers, Freikorps troops, and left-wing members (Spartakisten, USPD, KPD).
Karabiner 98AZ
A broken rifle that could be a Karabiner 98AZ is briefly seen lying in the mud.
Karabiner 98b
During various uprisings of the 1920s in the Weimar Republic, Reichswehr troops can be seen with Karabiner 98b. Some of them are equipped with S84/98 bayonets for the Karabiner 98k.
Gewehr 1888/05
Both Weimar forces and insurgents have Gewehr 1888/05.
Karabiner 1888
The Karabiner 1888 is also seen in some scenes.
Machine Guns
Maxim MG 08
Maxim MG08s are used by both factions. Some are fitted with modified Interbellum muzzle boosters.
Maxim M1910
An abandoned Russian Maxim M1910 lies next to a German trench.
Maxim MG08/15
What appears to be a Maxim MG08/15 modified with a fore mounted bipod is briefly seen.
Other
Flare Gun
An unknown flare gun is used by a German officer during the trench defending.
Stielhandgranate
Stick grenade mockups that resemble Model 16 Stielhandgranates are used by soldiers and insurgents. The fact that there are only 2 grenades seen at a time suggests that there were only 2 mockups.
10.5-cm-leichte Feldhaubitze 18
Anachronistic leichte Feldhaubitze 18 howitzers are used by German soldiers and Kapp putschists.
15-cm-schweres Infanteriegeschütz 33
Schweres Infanteriegeschütz 33, also anachristic for WWI and the early 1920s, can be seen.
Mk A Whippet tank
A British Mk A Whippet tank is used by the Freikorps during the Spartacist Uprising in 1919. This tank seems to be a real one rather than a mockup that could be purchased from the Soviet Union for the movie. Historically the use of this tank is correct; the Whippet tank "A249" was used by the Freikorps. This tank was captured by German troops in 1918 at Bray, France. After the uprising, the Allies took it back and was then scrapped.
Armored Car
An armored car is used by the Reichswehr in Hamburg, which is a replica to resemble an Ehrhardt E-V/4.
