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[[File:Normal sa58 003.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Sa vz. 58 Defender - 7.62x39mm. The defender variant features a shorter barrel.]]
[[File:Normal sa58 003.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Sa vz. 58 Defender - 7.62x39mm. The defender variant features a shorter barrel.]]
[[File:Vz58PI.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sa vz. 58 Pi - 7.62x39mm. The Sa vz. 58 Pi (''Pěchotní s infračerveným zaměřovačem''; "infantry with infrared sight") features a flash hider, bipod and a scope bracket for nightvision scopes.]]
[[File:Vz58PI.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sa vz. 58 Pi - 7.62x39mm. The Sa vz. 58 Pi (''Pěchotní s infračerveným zaměřovačem''; "infantry with infrared sight") features a flash hider, bipod and a scope bracket for nightvision scopes.]]
[[File:CZ858access.gif|thumb|none|500px|CZ 858 or CZ 858 Tactical - 7.62x39mm. Civilian sporting version, mainly for export into US]]
[[File:Sa58refl.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sa vz. 58 Pi modified for 601st Special Forces Group - 7.62x39mm. They are fitted with the vz. 58 V folding stock, quad-rail handguard, and a Picatinny rail in place of the scope bracket.]]
[[File:Sa58refl.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Sa vz. 58 Pi modified for 601st Special Forces Group - 7.62x39mm. They are fitted with the vz. 58 V folding stock, quad-rail handguard, and a Picatinny rail in place of the scope bracket.]]
[[File:CZ858access.gif|thumb|none|500px|CZ 858 Tactical with railed handguard - 7.62x39mm. The CZ 858 Tactical is a semi-auto only variant intended for the Canadian civilian market. Despite the name, the base variant does not feature the railed handguard.]]
[[File:CZ 858 Synthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|CZ 858 Sporter with black synthetic furniture - 7.62x39mm]]
[[File:CZ 858 Synthetic.jpg|thumb|none|500px|CZ 858 Sporter with black synthetic furniture - 7.62x39mm]]



Revision as of 03:39, 8 April 2019

Aditional Variants

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CSA Sa vz. 58 Tactical - 7.62x39mm
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Sa vz. 58 Tactical with railed handguards and a M4-style buttstock - 7.62x39mm
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Sa vz. 58 Defender - 7.62x39mm. The defender variant features a shorter barrel.
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Sa vz. 58 Pi - 7.62x39mm. The Sa vz. 58 Pi (Pěchotní s infračerveným zaměřovačem; "infantry with infrared sight") features a flash hider, bipod and a scope bracket for nightvision scopes.
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Sa vz. 58 Pi modified for 601st Special Forces Group - 7.62x39mm. They are fitted with the vz. 58 V folding stock, quad-rail handguard, and a Picatinny rail in place of the scope bracket.
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CZ 858 Tactical with railed handguard - 7.62x39mm. The CZ 858 Tactical is a semi-auto only variant intended for the Canadian civilian market. Despite the name, the base variant does not feature the railed handguard.
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CZ 858 Sporter with black synthetic furniture - 7.62x39mm

Not like the StG. 44

The article claims that the Vz's internals are close to the StG. 44, but there are significant differences:

StG - Long-stroke gas piston
Vz - Short-stroke gas piston
StG - Hammer fired
Vz - Striker fired
StG - Non-reciprocating charging handle
Vz - Reciprocating charging handle
StG - Tilting bolt (the entire bolt assembly)
Vz - Linearly-moving bolt with separate tilting breechblock
71.193.180.188 04:03, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Name of this gun?

What is the proper name for this gun? Wikipedia calls it the "SA vz. 58", the manufacturer "SA vz.58" the page name is "SA Vz.58" and the sections are "Sa. Vz. 58V". Which one is correct? --commando552 (talk) 05:17, 9 November 2012 (EST)I am from the Czech Republic and so you can explain it: There are 2 variants of SA Vz. 58. The designation "V" means paratrooper (czech: "výsadkár") , the designation P denotes infantry (czech: "pechota").--Pandolfini (talk) 07:56, 10 November 2012 (EST)

Compact variant looks rather cartoonish

Does the compact version of this gun look cartoonish to anyone else? I mean, I know it's just because it's extremely compact, but to me, it just looks like a cartoonishly-proportioned rifle, like it's supposed to be full-sized, but the magazine is disproportionately large. Jeddostotle7 (talk) 22:20, 14 November 2012 (EST)

Page Name?

Shouldn't the proper name of this page be Sa vz. 58 and not SA Vz. 58 as it's suppose to be short for Samopal vzor 1958? Isn't it only when an abbreviation is made up of two individual words (Avtomat Kalashnikova) that both letters are capitalized in an acronym (AK)? --Thejoker (talk) 18:38, 19 March 2013 (EDT)

I would agree that "SA" is wrong as it is from one word, however it confuses me why there would be a period after the first abbreviated word but not the second. However I think we should go with Sa vz. 58 as that is what the current manufacturer CSA (Czech Small Arms) who makes the modern variants like the Carbine and the Compact call it on their site. CZ USA also refer to it as the Sa vz. 58 on their site, although not consistently. Either way it needs to be standardised as something as there are three different ways of writing it on this page alone. Anyone think Sa vz. 58 is wrong? --commando552 (talk) 19:29, 19 March 2013 (EDT)
I support Sa vz. 58. --Wuzh (talk) 02:17, 5 April 2019 (EDT)
While we're at it, would anybody object to removing "assault rifle" from the page title? It's not like there's another vz. 58 that we have to worry about or anything. Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 16:26, 5 April 2019 (EDT)