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The Terminator ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) acquires an [[M1911 pistol series#AMT Hardballer|AMT Hardballer Longslide]] with a primitive laserlock sight (a [http://faneditforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4870 one-off] made by someone from a company that would be later become SureFire) in addition to several other weapons from a gunshop shortly after his arrival from 2029. He first uses it to assassinate two women from a phone book who share the name Sarah Connor. When he arrives at the real Connor's ([[Linda Hamilton]]) apartment, he uses it to kill her friend, Ginger Ventura ([[Bess Motta]]). Upon tracking Sarah to the Tech Noir nightclub, the Terminator loses this weapon when Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) intervenes in his assassination attempt, at which point he switches to his [[IMI Uzi]]. | The Terminator ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) acquires an [[M1911 pistol series#AMT Hardballer|AMT Hardballer Longslide]] with a primitive laserlock sight (a [http://faneditforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4870 one-off] made by someone from a company that would be later become SureFire) in addition to several other weapons from a gunshop shortly after his arrival from 2029. He first uses it to assassinate two women from a phone book who share the name Sarah Connor. When he arrives at the real Connor's ([[Linda Hamilton]]) apartment, he uses it to kill her friend, Ginger Ventura ([[Bess Motta]]). Upon tracking Sarah to the Tech Noir nightclub, the Terminator loses this weapon when Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) intervenes in his assassination attempt, at which point he switches to his [[IMI Uzi]]. | ||
[[Image: | [[Image:ED 45.jpg|thumb|left|600px|AMT Hardballer Longslide .45 ACP with laserlock sight as used in the film]] | ||
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator inspects the .45 in the gunshop.]] | [[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator inspects the .45 in the gunshop.]] | ||
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of the laserlock sight.]] | [[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of the laserlock sight.]] | ||
Revision as of 02:20, 2 June 2009
The following guns were used in the movie The Terminator
AMT Hardballer .45 Longslide
The Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) acquires an AMT Hardballer Longslide with a primitive laserlock sight (a one-off made by someone from a company that would be later become SureFire) in addition to several other weapons from a gunshop shortly after his arrival from 2029. He first uses it to assassinate two women from a phone book who share the name Sarah Connor. When he arrives at the real Connor's (Linda Hamilton) apartment, he uses it to kill her friend, Ginger Ventura (Bess Motta). Upon tracking Sarah to the Tech Noir nightclub, the Terminator loses this weapon when Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) intervenes in his assassination attempt, at which point he switches to his IMI Uzi.
IMI Uzi
Another weapon the Terminator acquires from the Gun Shop at the start of the film is an IMI Uzi 9mm Carbine. In the sequence the gun store has the weapon on display with the short dummy barrel installed, which was done sometimes to entice buyers, however the Uzi Model A or B was always sold with a 16" barrel for legality. James Cameron mentioned in the magazine "Soldier of Fortune" that he assumed that the Terminator had converted the Uzi and the AR-180 into full auto weapons in his hotel room (which included sawing down the 16" barrel of the Uzi). He uses it mainly in the Tech Noir nightclub, when Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) interferes with his attempts to terminate Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton). After losing his .45, the Terminator unloads several rounds at the nightclub, killing quite a few innocent bystanders, but fails to hit Sarah, or Kyle. He loses the weapon when Kyle shoots him out of the club's window.
SPAS-12
Another gun used by the Terminator, is the Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun. The Terminator uses it to kill the gun store owner at the start of the film. Later, it is one of the two weapons he uses during the assault on the police station. A SPAS-12 is also seen in the hands of a human Resistance fighter in one of the "Future War" flashbacks. For some reason, the shotgun's retractible stock is removed during the shooting spree at the police station. Also, the sound editor must have made a huge mistake, as the shotgun is made to sound like an assault rifle several times during the same scene.
AR-18
Yet another of the Terminator's guns is an Armalite AR-18 assault rifle. The gun has two magazines taped together in a 'jungle style' configuration. He uses it primarily during the assault on the police station and during the car chase following the motel scene. The script refers to the rifle as an AR-18. The Terminator novel refers to the T-800 converting the rifle from semi to full auto using tools stolen from a hardware store earlier in the day.
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Smith & Wesson Model 15
Soon after arriving, Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) grabs a Smith & Wesson Model 15 from a police officer and holds him at gunpoint while demanding to be told the current date, then flees into a nearby department store when more police arrive. After Kyle and Sarah are aprehended by the police later on, several officers can be seen holding Smith & Wesson Model 15s. Several officers also use Smith & Wesson Model 15 when the Terminator raids the police station. Also, a chrome Smith & Wesson Model 15 is seen being wielded by the Terminator when he runs out of ammunition for his AR-18 during the car chase at the end.
- These top two are a Colt Trooper, note Colt Grips and Colt style cyinder release. - Gunmaster45
- This is a Colt Python. - Gunmaster45
- This one might actually be a Model 15. - Gunmaster45
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Ithaca 37 Sawed Off
Soon after arriving, Reese procures an Ithaca 37 shotgun from an unattended police car. In addition to having a high-capacity magazine tube, Reese saws off part of the stock to give it a pistol grip instead making it easier to conceal under his trenchcoat. He notably uses it against the Terminator in the Tech Noir nightclub shootout, and the ensuing carchase after he and Sarah escape the car garage. Between acquiring the Ithaca and discharging it for the first time in the night club, Reese pumps the handle three times. First when he saws off the stock, again when he wakes up from his nightmare and for the third time just before shooting the Terminator at the night club. Not a single time is a shell ejected from the extraction port, which suggests Reese unloaded it prior to sawing off the stock, and only loaded it before he entered the night club.
Ithaca 37
Following the skirmish at the Tech Noir nightclub, the Terminator aquires his own Ithaca 37 with a full stock, and shortened magazine from the police car he hijacks after he is knocked in the middle of the street by Kyle and Sarah's car. He keeps it with him while he stalks Kyle and Sarah in the multi-storey Car Park. He then uses it to exchange fire with Kyle in the ensuing chase. During the police station massacre, a few cops can be seen with Ithaca 37s.
M16A1
During the raid on the police station by the Terminator, several police officers head to the armory and begin passing out M16A1 rifles with 20-round magazines. Lt. Edward Traxler (Paul Winfield) is seen with an M16A1 and uses the rifle shoot the Terminator in the back (which resulted in the Terminator turning around and shooting Traxler with his own AR-18 rifle). Detective Hal Vukovich (Lance Henriksen) opens up on the Terminator with one after finding Traxler mortally wounded by the cyborg, only to take a burst from both the Terminator's AR-18 and SPAS-12 for his troubles.
Unknown Revolver
In a deleted scene, a dying Lt. Traxler (Paul Winfield) gives Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) an unknown revolver as he and Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) escape the police station. In another deleted scene, Kyle instinctively aims this revolver at Sarah when the two get into a tense confrontation. Later, at the tiki motel, Kyle gives it to Sarah when he leaves to buy supplies.
The only thing that I can confirm about this weapon is that it isn't a Ruger GP 100 as it was debunked previously by Jcordell. I am terrible at identifying revolvers, so if anyone can identify this gun, please don't hesitate. - Uzi870.
It could be a Smith and Wesson Model 13 but the photos are not detailed enough. The photo of Reese handing the revolver to Sarah in the motel kinda makes me think a Smith and Wesson model 19 because the front sight blade looks like a model 19, only in the photo though so I'm stumped.
- This could be a Smith & Wesson Model 13. That's my best guess. Additional input is very much needed, though!
- I believe it is a Ruger Speed Six. - Gunmaster45
- I think so too. - Gunergun99
Pipe Bomb
While at the motel, Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor can be seen assembling pipe bombs from components Reese purchased during a shopping trip. These bombs are then later used during the final car chase of the film with Reese throwing pipe bombs out the window of the commandeered pickup, trying to hit the Terminator pursuing them on a motorcycle, though fails to score a hit. One pipe bomb is later used to blow up the tanker truck the Terminator hijacks, and the last one is used to blow off the Terminator's lower body, fragments from the blast killing an already-wounded Reese and injuring Sarah Connor.
Ruger Security Six
At the end of the film, Sarah carries another unknown revolver on her lap as she rides through the Mexican desert.
Its definetly a ruger revolver.
- Same Ruger Kyle gave her before. - Gunmaster45
Looks like a ruger redhawk to me.
Cant be the one from before, the one from before was blued, and realistically they would have taken the dead cops revolver from her when the EMTs took her to the hospital.
It looks like it is unloaded.
I am pretty sure this is a Ruger Security Six with a pachmayr type grip.
(comment: It probably is a Speed Six. I am very familiar with that gun and I know one when I see it-S&Wshooter)
The adjustable rear sight would indicate a "Security Six". (eli)
Heckler & Koch G3
A number of Heckler & Koch G3 rifles can be seen in the hands of human Resistance fighters responsible for guarding a human bunker in 2029. This makes sense, short of a Plasma rifle or Barett light-fifty (M82/M107), a 7.62mm Battle Rifle (Ideally with M993-7.62x51mm A.P. rounds) would be the logical choice for a man portable weapon under those circumstances. As for Battle Rifles, the G3 is a very good weapon, especially when compared with similar weapons produced in the same time period. A number of the G3's civilian cousin, the HK91 rifle can be seen on the gun racks at the Alamo Gun Store in 1984. (comment:I agree about the G3 being a good choice. If someone were to put one into the Terminator's head they could maybe kill it.- S&Wshooter)
Valmet M82
A Valmet M82 is used as Kyle Reese's plasma gun in the future war scenes.
Interesting little factiod, Kyle's appearence in these scenes was the inspiration for the cover art of the first Metal Gear.
Browning M2
A Browning M2 heavy machine gun is seen in the future war battle scene.
'General Dynamics RSB-80 plasma gun'
A machine gun that resembles a Maxim gun/British Vickers gun is used by the Infiltrator Terminator (Franco Columbu) in the Future war scene while raiding the Human's Underground Bunker as a rapid fire laser cannon. It is also seen on the sunroof of the car being chased by the Aerial HK.
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Lahti L-39
Amongst other miscellanous weapons in the Alamo Gun Store, a WW2 Finnish made Lahti L-39 anti-tank rifle is on display.
