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The Terminator ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) acquires an [[M1911 pistol series#AMT Hardballer|AMT Hardballer Longslide]] with a primitive laserlock sight (a [http://faneditforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4870 one-off] made by someone from a company that would be later become SureFire) in addition to several other weapons from a gunshop shortly after his arrival from 2029. He first uses it to assassinate two women from a phone book who share the name Sarah Connor. When he arrives at the real Connor's ([[Linda Hamilton]]) apartment, he uses it to kill her friend, Ginger Ventura ([[Bess Motta]]). Upon tracking Sarah to the Tech Noir nightclub, the Terminator loses this weapon when Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) intervenes in his assassination attempt, at which point he switches to his [[IMI Uzi]].
The Terminator ([[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]) acquires an [[M1911 pistol series#AMT Hardballer|AMT Hardballer Longslide]] with a primitive laserlock sight (a [http://faneditforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4870 one-off] made by someone from a company that would be later become SureFire) in addition to several other weapons from a gunshop shortly after his arrival from 2029. He first uses it to assassinate two women from a phone book who share the name Sarah Connor. When he arrives at the real Connor's ([[Linda Hamilton]]) apartment, he uses it to kill her friend, Ginger Ventura ([[Bess Motta]]). Upon tracking Sarah to the Tech Noir nightclub, the Terminator loses this weapon when Kyle Reese ([[Michael Biehn]]) intervenes in his assassination attempt, at which point he switches to his [[IMI Uzi]].


[[Image:Hardballer_Longslide.jpg|thumb|left|600px|AMT Hardballer Longslide .45 ACP]]
[[Image:ED 45.jpg|thumb|left|600px|AMT Hardballer Longslide .45 ACP with laserlock sight as used in the film]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator inspects the .45 in the gunshop.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-3.jpg|thumb|none|600px|The Terminator inspects the .45 in the gunshop.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of the laserlock sight.]]
[[Image:TERMSE_SIDEA-4.jpg|thumb|none|600px|A closeup of the laserlock sight.]]

Revision as of 02:20, 2 June 2009

The following guns were used in the movie The Terminator

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The Terminator (1984)


AMT Hardballer .45 Longslide

The Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) acquires an AMT Hardballer Longslide with a primitive laserlock sight (a one-off made by someone from a company that would be later become SureFire) in addition to several other weapons from a gunshop shortly after his arrival from 2029. He first uses it to assassinate two women from a phone book who share the name Sarah Connor. When he arrives at the real Connor's (Linda Hamilton) apartment, he uses it to kill her friend, Ginger Ventura (Bess Motta). Upon tracking Sarah to the Tech Noir nightclub, the Terminator loses this weapon when Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) intervenes in his assassination attempt, at which point he switches to his IMI Uzi.

AMT Hardballer Longslide .45 ACP with laserlock sight as used in the film
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The Terminator inspects the .45 in the gunshop.
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A closeup of the laserlock sight.
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Another shot of the Terminator inspecting the gun.
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The Terminator kills Ginger Ventura with the .45.
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The Terminator aims the .45 at Ginger's answering machine.
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The Terminator reloads his .45 after killing Ginger.
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The Terminator sets the .45 down as he looks for Sarah's address book.
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The Terminator aims his .45 at Sarah's head seconds before being stopped by Kyle Reese.

IMI Uzi

Another weapon the Terminator acquires from the Gun Shop at the start of the film is an IMI Uzi 9mm Carbine. In the sequence the gun store has the weapon on display with the short dummy barrel installed, which was done sometimes to entice buyers, however the Uzi Model A or B was always sold with a 16" barrel for legality. James Cameron mentioned in the magazine "Soldier of Fortune" that he assumed that the Terminator had converted the Uzi and the AR-180 into full auto weapons in his hotel room (which included sawing down the 16" barrel of the Uzi). He uses it mainly in the Tech Noir nightclub, when Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) interferes with his attempts to terminate Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton). After losing his .45, the Terminator unloads several rounds at the nightclub, killing quite a few innocent bystanders, but fails to hit Sarah, or Kyle. He loses the weapon when Kyle shoots him out of the club's window.

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IMI Uzi 9mm
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The gunshop owner (Dick Miller) retrieves the Uzi from a shelf. Note that the short barrel is installed, which if live would not be legal to sell over the counter, even in 1984, thus it is assumed that this is the dummy short barrel that came with the Uzi Carbines for 'display purposes'.
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The Terminator whips out his (now full auto) Uzi at the Tech Noir night club. Actually the weapon used in the film was indeed an open bolt select fire Uzi, and not an Uzi Carbine.
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The Terminator fires his Uzi at Kyle Reese.
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The Terminator fires his Uzi at Sarah Connor.

SPAS-12

Another gun used by the Terminator, is the Franchi SPAS-12 shotgun. The Terminator uses it to kill the gun store owner at the start of the film. Later, it is one of the two weapons he uses during the assault on the police station. A SPAS-12 is also seen in the hands of a human Resistance fighter in one of the "Future War" flashbacks. For some reason, the shotgun's retractible stock is removed during the shooting spree at the police station. Also, the sound editor must have made a huge mistake, as the shotgun is made to sound like an assault rifle several times during the same scene.

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Franchi SPAS-12 12 guage
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The Terminator at the gun store inspects the SPAS 12, before killing the owner.
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Another shot of the Terminator inspecting his SPAS 12.
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The Terminator loads a fresh shell in the SPAS 12's chamber.
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The Terminator kills the gun store owner.
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The Terminator keeps his SPAS 12 at the ready in the police station.
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The Terminator kills a police officer with his SPAS 12. Note the missing stock, possibly done to reduce weight for firing the weapon with a single hand.
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The Terminator leans the SPAS 12 on his shoulder as he leaves the police station.

AR-18

Yet another of the Terminator's guns is an Armalite AR-18 assault rifle. The gun has two magazines taped together in a 'jungle style' configuration. He uses it primarily during the assault on the police station and during the car chase following the motel scene. The script refers to the rifle as an AR-18. The Terminator novel refers to the T-800 converting the rifle from semi to full auto using tools stolen from a hardware store earlier in the day.

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A transferable fully automatic Armalite AR-18 5.56mm as used in Terminator. This is the actual prop weapon used in the movie; it's on sale for $29,000 at Long Mountain Outfitters (see http://www.longmountain.com/inventory/0771-ar18-movie-gun-terminator-gun-used-by-arnold).
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The Terminator inspects the AR-18 at the gunshop.
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The Terminator with his AR-18 at the police station.
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The Terminaror fires his AR-18.
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The Terminator reloads his AR-18.
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The Terminator holds his AR-18 at the ready as he leaves his motel room to find Kyle, and Sarah.
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The Terminator inspects Sarah, and Kyle's room at the Tiki Motel.
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The AR-18 slides off the roof of Kyle, and Sarah's truck after they hit the Terminator.
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The Terminator fires his AR-18 during the car chase in the tunnel.
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The terminator fires his AR-18 from his motorcycle.
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The Terminator tosses the AR-18 when it runs dry.

Smith & Wesson Model 15

Soon after arriving, Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) grabs a Smith & Wesson Model 15 from a police officer and holds him at gunpoint while demanding to be told the current date, then flees into a nearby department store when more police arrive. After Kyle and Sarah are aprehended by the police later on, several officers can be seen holding Smith & Wesson Model 15s. Several officers also use Smith & Wesson Model 15 when the Terminator raids the police station. Also, a chrome Smith & Wesson Model 15 is seen being wielded by the Terminator when he runs out of ammunition for his AR-18 during the car chase at the end.

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Smith & Wesson Model 15 .38 Special
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A Smith & Wesson Model 15 is used by Reese while he asks what year it is.
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Kyle peeks out of a photo booth with a Model 15 in hand.
These top two are a Colt Trooper, note Colt Grips and Colt style cyinder release. - Gunmaster45
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An LAPD officer searches the Terminator's patrol car with a Model 15 in hand.
This is a Colt Python. - Gunmaster45
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An officer holds a Model 15 during the Terminator's shooting spree.
This one might actually be a Model 15. - Gunmaster45
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The Terminator fires a stainless Model 15, during the film's final car chase.

Ithaca 37 Sawed Off

Soon after arriving, Reese procures an Ithaca 37 shotgun from an unattended police car. In addition to having a high-capacity magazine tube, Reese saws off part of the stock to give it a pistol grip instead making it easier to conceal under his trenchcoat. He notably uses it against the Terminator in the Tech Noir nightclub shootout, and the ensuing carchase after he and Sarah escape the car garage. Between acquiring the Ithaca and discharging it for the first time in the night club, Reese pumps the handle three times. First when he saws off the stock, again when he wakes up from his nightmare and for the third time just before shooting the Terminator at the night club. Not a single time is a shell ejected from the extraction port, which suggests Reese unloaded it prior to sawing off the stock, and only loaded it before he entered the night club.

Ithaca 37 12 guage with sawed-off stock and barrel. The movie one had a longer barrel and magazine, with a slight remain of the sawn-off stock around the grip.
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Kyle steals the Ithaca 37 from a vacant police cruiser.
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Kyle retreats from the alley with his Ithaca 37.
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Kyle saws off his Ithaca 37's stock.
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Kyle wraps a string around the Ithaca's sawed down grip.
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Kyle pumps his Ithaca 37.
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Kyle crouches with his Ithaca 37. Note the shortened magazine tube of an obvious double.
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Kyle fires his Ithaca 37 at the Tech Noir nightclub.
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Kyle fires his Ithaca 37 during the car chase with the Terminator.
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Kyle shows us his war face.
Production photo of Michael Biehn with his Ithaca 37 at the Tech Noir nightclub set.

Ithaca 37

Following the skirmish at the Tech Noir nightclub, the Terminator aquires his own Ithaca 37 with a full stock, and shortened magazine from the police car he hijacks after he is knocked in the middle of the street by Kyle and Sarah's car. He keeps it with him while he stalks Kyle and Sarah in the multi-storey Car Park. He then uses it to exchange fire with Kyle in the ensuing chase. During the police station massacre, a few cops can be seen with Ithaca 37s.

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Ithaca 37 - 12 gauge.
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The Terminator aquires an Ithaca 37.
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The Terminator fires his Ithaca 37.

M16A1

During the raid on the police station by the Terminator, several police officers head to the armory and begin passing out M16A1 rifles with 20-round magazines. Lt. Edward Traxler (Paul Winfield) is seen with an M16A1 and uses the rifle shoot the Terminator in the back (which resulted in the Terminator turning around and shooting Traxler with his own AR-18 rifle). Detective Hal Vukovich (Lance Henriksen) opens up on the Terminator with one after finding Traxler mortally wounded by the cyborg, only to take a burst from both the Terminator's AR-18 and SPAS-12 for his troubles.

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M16A1 5.56mm
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Traxler, Vukovich, and a few other officers prep their M16A1s.
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Traxler fires his M16 before being gunned down.
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Vukovich holds his M16 as he checks an injured Traxler.
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Vukovich fires his M16 before he too is gunned down.

Unknown Revolver

In a deleted scene, a dying Lt. Traxler (Paul Winfield) gives Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn) an unknown revolver as he and Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton) escape the police station. In another deleted scene, Kyle instinctively aims this revolver at Sarah when the two get into a tense confrontation. Later, at the tiki motel, Kyle gives it to Sarah when he leaves to buy supplies.

The only thing that I can confirm about this weapon is that it isn't a Ruger GP 100 as it was debunked previously by Jcordell. I am terrible at identifying revolvers, so if anyone can identify this gun, please don't hesitate. - Uzi870.

It could be a Smith and Wesson Model 13 but the photos are not detailed enough. The photo of Reese handing the revolver to Sarah in the motel kinda makes me think a Smith and Wesson model 19 because the front sight blade looks like a model 19, only in the photo though so I'm stumped.

This could be a Smith & Wesson Model 13. That's my best guess. Additional input is very much needed, though!
I believe it is a Ruger Speed Six. - Gunmaster45
I think so too. - Gunergun99
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Lt. Traxler gives Kyle the revolver in a deleted scene.
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Kyle aims the revolver at Sarah in another deleted scene.
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Kyle lowers the revolver, coming to his senses.
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Kyle gives Sarah the revolver. Not sure what good it would do against a Terminator, but I guess it's better than nothing.
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Sarah inspects the revolver.

Pipe Bomb

While at the motel, Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor can be seen assembling pipe bombs from components Reese purchased during a shopping trip. These bombs are then later used during the final car chase of the film with Reese throwing pipe bombs out the window of the commandeered pickup, trying to hit the Terminator pursuing them on a motorcycle, though fails to score a hit. One pipe bomb is later used to blow up the tanker truck the Terminator hijacks, and the last one is used to blow off the Terminator's lower body, fragments from the blast killing an already-wounded Reese and injuring Sarah Connor.

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Kyle teaches Sarah how to assemble a Pipe Bomb.
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The row of completed Pipe Bombs lie on a dresser.
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Kyle lights the first bomb.
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Kyle tosses the bomb.....
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....but fails to hit the Terminator. This goes on for quite a while.
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Kyle tosses one of the last bombs in the tube that houses the hose for pumping the fuel.
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After a very lengthy period......
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.....the tanker is destroyed.
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Kyle jams the final bomb in the Terminator's abdomen.
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The Terminator is blown apart. Interesting note: The endoskeleton is supposed to be blown in two, but you can clearly see that it is completely destroyed in this scene.You can even see its head severed in this screenshot

Ruger Security Six

At the end of the film, Sarah carries another unknown revolver on her lap as she rides through the Mexican desert.

Its definetly a ruger revolver.

Same Ruger Kyle gave her before. - Gunmaster45

Looks like a ruger redhawk to me.

Cant be the one from before, the one from before was blued, and realistically they would have taken the dead cops revolver from her when the EMTs took her to the hospital.

It looks like it is unloaded.

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Sarah's revolver lies on her lap.


I am pretty sure this is a Ruger Security Six with a pachmayr type grip. (comment: It probably is a Speed Six. I am very familiar with that gun and I know one when I see it-S&Wshooter)

The adjustable rear sight would indicate a "Security Six". (eli)

Heckler & Koch G3

A number of Heckler & Koch G3 rifles can be seen in the hands of human Resistance fighters responsible for guarding a human bunker in 2029. This makes sense, short of a Plasma rifle or Barett light-fifty (M82/M107), a 7.62mm Battle Rifle (Ideally with M993-7.62x51mm A.P. rounds) would be the logical choice for a man portable weapon under those circumstances. As for Battle Rifles, the G3 is a very good weapon, especially when compared with similar weapons produced in the same time period. A number of the G3's civilian cousin, the HK91 rifle can be seen on the gun racks at the Alamo Gun Store in 1984. (comment:I agree about the G3 being a good choice. If someone were to put one into the Terminator's head they could maybe kill it.- S&Wshooter)

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Heckler & Koch G3A3 7.62x51mm NATO
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A Resistance fighter aims his G3A3 (with folding-bipod handguard) at the stronghold peephole before allowing Reese to enter.

Valmet M82

A Valmet M82 is used as Kyle Reese's plasma gun in the future war scenes.

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Valmet M82 5.56mm
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Reese with his plasma gun which is really a Valmet M82.
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Kyle crouches with his Valmet M82.
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Kyle descends the stairs of a resistance compound with his M82.
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Kyle scans a HK Fighter Plane through the scope of his M82.
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Kyle playfully aims his M82 at a child in the compound.
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Kyle fires his M82 at the Infiltrator Terminator.

Interesting little factiod, Kyle's appearence in these scenes was the inspiration for the cover art of the first Metal Gear.

Browning M2

A Browning M2 heavy machine gun is seen in the future war battle scene.

Browning M2 .50 BMG
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A member of the human resistance mans a Browning M2 heavy machine gun in the future. Note it has no spade grips and ammo belt.

'General Dynamics RSB-80 plasma gun'

A machine gun that resembles a Maxim gun/British Vickers gun is used by the Infiltrator Terminator (Franco Columbu) in the Future war scene while raiding the Human's Underground Bunker as a rapid fire laser cannon. It is also seen on the sunroof of the car being chased by the Aerial HK.

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Lahti L-39

Amongst other miscellanous weapons in the Alamo Gun Store, a WW2 Finnish made Lahti L-39 anti-tank rifle is on display.

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A 20 mm Lahti L-39 anti-tank rifle is seen in the background

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