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So the IMFDB policy on films with foreign titles only is to use a translated title and include the original title in brackets after the title. However, when "The" appears at the start of the translated title, our policy is apparently to move it to the end of the title too. This creates confusing titles like [[Gleiwitz Case (Der Fall Gleiwitz), The]], [[White Guard (Belaya gvardiya), The]], or the extremely confusing [[Star (Zvezda), The (1949)]], which adds a year at the end of the title. These titles are very confusing for several reasons: one is that the title is partially broken up due to the "The" policy, meaning that the translated title loses its "The", which can change its meaning. Two is that these translated titles are not actually official titles; sorting them with or without "the" is meaningless since we're sorting them by an unofficial title created solely for IMFDB. If anything, they should be sorted by their original language title. Thus, I propose that these titles should be exempt from the "The" rule, and they should use <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT}}</nowiki> to sort them based on their original language titles. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 15:23, 12 January 2019 (EST) | So the IMFDB policy on films with foreign titles only is to use a translated title and include the original title in brackets after the title. However, when "The" appears at the start of the translated title, our policy is apparently to move it to the end of the title too. This creates confusing titles like [[Gleiwitz Case (Der Fall Gleiwitz), The]], [[White Guard (Belaya gvardiya), The]], or the extremely confusing [[Star (Zvezda), The (1949)]], which adds a year at the end of the title. These titles are very confusing for several reasons: one is that the title is partially broken up due to the "The" policy, meaning that the translated title loses its "The", which can change its meaning. Two is that these translated titles are not actually official titles; sorting them with or without "the" is meaningless since we're sorting them by an unofficial title created solely for IMFDB. If anything, they should be sorted by their original language title. Thus, I propose that these titles should be exempt from the "The" rule, and they should use <nowiki>{{DEFAULTSORT}}</nowiki> to sort them based on their original language titles. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 15:23, 12 January 2019 (EST) | ||
: We add years to differentiate between same-named titles; remakes and series and so forth. It's a unilateral practice and one that I fail to see makes anything ''more'' confusing. That said, [[Rules,_Standards_and_Principles#The_American_Release_Title_takes_precedence|our rule]] on the matter seems to handle the rest of your so-called 'problem'. If there's no official title, we use a translated title except in certain instances, simple as that. This is how we do it, and have done it for all this time with - until now - no complaint whatsoever that I'm aware of. And if the translation includes a 'the' to it (and I'll grant that may be an optional linguistic liberty in some cases), well there it is. I don't think anybody's willing to get into a debate on the merits of translation and usage here. That aside this is just an extension of your previous complaint about the 'the' issue, and like that issue this is a 'problem' that again no one has raised as such other than you. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:37, 12 January 2019 (EST) | : We add years to differentiate between same-named titles; remakes and series and so forth. It's a unilateral practice and one that I fail to see makes anything ''more'' confusing. That said, [[Rules,_Standards_and_Principles#The_American_Release_Title_takes_precedence|our rule]] on the matter seems to handle the rest of your so-called 'problem'. If there's no official title, we use a translated title except in certain instances, simple as that. This is how we do it, and have done it for all this time with - until now - no complaint whatsoever that I'm aware of. And if the translation includes a 'the' to it (and I'll grant that may be an optional linguistic liberty in some cases), well there it is. I don't think anybody's willing to get into a debate on the merits of translation and usage here. That aside this is just an extension of your previous complaint about the 'the' issue, and like that issue this is a 'problem' that again no one has raised as such other than you. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 16:37, 12 January 2019 (EST) | ||
:: Fine. I'm not gonna pursue a policy change then. But my opinion won't be changing in the slightest. --[[User:Wuzh|Wuzh]] ([[User talk:Wuzh|talk]]) 18:01, 12 January 2019 (EST) | |||
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- Damn, I was hoping to beat everyone else to it this year. Stupid timezones... well, regardless, best wishes to everybody here! Here's to hoping that 2019 turns out well. Cheers, Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 16:58, 31 December 2018 (EST)
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Foreign language titles with translated titles that start with "The"
So the IMFDB policy on films with foreign titles only is to use a translated title and include the original title in brackets after the title. However, when "The" appears at the start of the translated title, our policy is apparently to move it to the end of the title too. This creates confusing titles like Gleiwitz Case (Der Fall Gleiwitz), The, White Guard (Belaya gvardiya), The, or the extremely confusing Star (Zvezda), The (1949), which adds a year at the end of the title. These titles are very confusing for several reasons: one is that the title is partially broken up due to the "The" policy, meaning that the translated title loses its "The", which can change its meaning. Two is that these translated titles are not actually official titles; sorting them with or without "the" is meaningless since we're sorting them by an unofficial title created solely for IMFDB. If anything, they should be sorted by their original language title. Thus, I propose that these titles should be exempt from the "The" rule, and they should use {{DEFAULTSORT}} to sort them based on their original language titles. --Wuzh (talk) 15:23, 12 January 2019 (EST)
- We add years to differentiate between same-named titles; remakes and series and so forth. It's a unilateral practice and one that I fail to see makes anything more confusing. That said, our rule on the matter seems to handle the rest of your so-called 'problem'. If there's no official title, we use a translated title except in certain instances, simple as that. This is how we do it, and have done it for all this time with - until now - no complaint whatsoever that I'm aware of. And if the translation includes a 'the' to it (and I'll grant that may be an optional linguistic liberty in some cases), well there it is. I don't think anybody's willing to get into a debate on the merits of translation and usage here. That aside this is just an extension of your previous complaint about the 'the' issue, and like that issue this is a 'problem' that again no one has raised as such other than you. StanTheMan (talk) 16:37, 12 January 2019 (EST)