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The [[M16 rifle series#M16 Rifle|XM16E1]] assault rifle are used by the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division including Lt. Colonel Hal Moore([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenent Charlie Hastings ([http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0046768/ Robert Bagnell]),Second Lieutenent Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most United States Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Ia Drang battle Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. These were actual XM16E1's used on the film for the heroes. | The [[M16 rifle series#M16 Rifle|XM16E1]] assault rifle are used by the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division including Lt. Colonel Hal Moore([[Mel Gibson]]), First Lieutenent Charlie Hastings ([http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0046768/ Robert Bagnell]),Second Lieutenent Jack Geoghegan ([[Chris Klein]]), Sergeant Ernie Savage([[Ryan Hurst]]) and most United States Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Ia Drang battle Joe Galloway ([[Barry Pepper]]) uses one as well. These were actual XM16E1's used on the film for the heroes. | ||
[[Image:XM16E1.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:XM16E1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|XM16E1 with 20 round magazine - 5.56x45mm]] | ||
[[Image:HeroXM16E1.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:HeroXM16E1.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The Actual XM16E1 used by [[Mel Gibson]] in the movie. Picture taken from Long Mountain Outfitters website.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt.Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) Lands on the Ia Drang Valey.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-82003.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Lt.Colonel Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) Lands on the Ia Drang Valey.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-83078.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier holds his XM16E1. Note the forward assist. He has pretty crappy stance too. Maybe all the "training" they did that Moore loved so much didn't help.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-83078.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier holds his XM16E1. Note the forward assist. He has pretty crappy stance too. Maybe all the "training" they did that Moore loved so much didn't help.]] | ||
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A Korean war era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the South Vietnamese (ARVN) advisor dressed in Tigerstripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is caught and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the french during the intro. | A Korean war era [[M1 Carbine]] is carried by the South Vietnamese (ARVN) advisor dressed in Tigerstripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is caught and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the french during the intro. | ||
[[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:M1CarbineLateModel.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1 Carbine with Bayonet Lug and Adjustable rear sight - .30 Carbine]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-33726.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a M1 Carbine to a french soldier.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-33726.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a M1 Carbine to a french soldier.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-82336.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The South Vietnamese advisor lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his [[M1 Carbine]].]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-82336.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The South Vietnamese advisor lands on the Ia Drang Valley with his [[M1 Carbine]].]] | ||
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The [[M60 machine gun]] is are used by US soldiers. Various Door gunners use them as well. | The [[M60 machine gun]] is are used by US soldiers. Various Door gunners use them as well. | ||
[[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:M60.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M60 in 7.62x51mm NATO]] | ||
[[Image:M60 WWS.JPG|thumb|none|500px|U.S. soldiers open up with an M60 in ''We Were Soldiers'']] | [[Image:M60 WWS.JPG|thumb|none|500px|U.S. soldiers open up with an M60 in ''We Were Soldiers'']] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-39931.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Variuous soldiers fire their M60s in training before the Battle of Ia Drang.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-39931.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Variuous soldiers fire their M60s in training before the Battle of Ia Drang.]] | ||
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A Colt [[M1911 pistol#M1911A1|M1911]] is fired by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) during a close combat sequence and is also seen in the holsters of his fellow soldiers. | A Colt [[M1911 pistol#M1911A1|M1911]] is fired by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley ([[Sam Elliott]]) during a close combat sequence and is also seen in the holsters of his fellow soldiers. | ||
[[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:COLTM1911 1913.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 1911 .45 ACP]] | ||
:I read somewhere (I think LMO) that Sam Elliot used an older M1911 not an A1. Gibson on the other hand did use an A1. I'm sure [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] would know something about it, since he worked on the film. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | :I read somewhere (I think LMO) that Sam Elliot used an older M1911 not an A1. Gibson on the other hand did use an A1. I'm sure [[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] would know something about it, since he worked on the film. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | ||
Sam Elliot did indeed used a Colt 1911 rebuilt for World War II and Mel Gibson used a Colt 1911A1 pre-war commercial issued to the military during World War II. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] | Sam Elliot did indeed used a Colt 1911 rebuilt for World War II and Mel Gibson used a Colt 1911A1 pre-war commercial issued to the military during World War II. -[[User:Phoenixent|Steve]] | ||
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A Colt [[M1911 pistol#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) during a close combat sequence, shooting an NVA soldier attempting to bayonet him while he's on the radio. | A Colt [[M1911 pistol#M1911A1|M1911A1]] is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore ([[Mel Gibson]]) during a close combat sequence, shooting an NVA soldier attempting to bayonet him while he's on the radio. | ||
[[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:M1911Colt.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Colt Model 1911A1 .45 ACP]] | ||
== M26 Hand Grenades == | == M26 Hand Grenades == | ||
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In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches. | In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with [[M26 hand grenade]]s strapped to their pouches. | ||
[[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:200px-M-67handgrenade.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M26 High-Explosive Fragmentation hand grenade]] | ||
[[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Captain Nadal and another soldier patrol the battlefield with M16's in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches]] | [[Image:WWSM26Frag.JPG|thumb|none|400px|Captain Nadal and another soldier patrol the battlefield with M16's in hand and M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches]] | ||
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The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie. | The NVA and the Vietcong use [[PPSh-41 / PPSh-43|PPSh-41]]s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie. | ||
[[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:PPSH-01-SMG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A PPSh-41 submachine gun.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-30728.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-30728.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Viet Minh soldier gets shot while holding a PPSh-41.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-31305.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35 round stick magazine.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-31305.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A Viet Minh soldier holds a PPSh-41 with a 35 round stick magazine.]] | ||
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The [[AK-47]]s used in the movie were build by the Movie's Armourer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac]. | The [[AK-47]]s used in the movie were build by the Movie's Armourer [http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0660143/ Mike Papac]. | ||
[[Image:Ak 54.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:Ak 54.jpg|thumb|none|500px|AK-47 with a milled receiver.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-103898.jpg|thumb|none|500px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-103898.jpg|thumb|none|500px|NVA soldiers fire their AK-47s.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-123086.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-123086.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A NVA soldier moves in the dark with a AK-47.]] | ||
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Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Seargent Savage's squad. | Various US soldiers can be seen carrying [[M79 grenade launcher]]s in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum([[Blake Heron]]) uses one since he is the grenadier of Seargent Savage's squad. | ||
[[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:M79-Grenade-Launcher.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M79 grenade launcher - 40mm]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carryng a [[M79 grenade launcher]].]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-41883.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A soldier jumps from a chopper during training while carryng a [[M79 grenade launcher]].]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A american soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-93589.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A american soldier fires his [[M79 grenade launcher]].]] | ||
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== MAS-36 Rifle == | == MAS-36 Rifle == | ||
In the opening scene where the french soldiers are ambushed during the Indochina War, various french soldiers use [[MAS-36 rifle]]s. | In the opening scene where the french soldiers are ambushed during the Indochina War, various french soldiers use [[MAS-36 rifle]]s. | ||
[[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:MAS36.jpg|thumb|none|500px|French MAS-36 Rifle.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23252.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23252.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The French convoy gets ambushed.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23792.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two french soldiers armed with [[MAS-36 rifle]]s.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23792.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Two french soldiers armed with [[MAS-36 rifle]]s.]] | ||
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A pair each of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers at the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table in the beginning of the movie. | A pair each of [[GE M134 Minigun]]s are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers at the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table in the beginning of the movie. | ||
[[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none| | [[Image:M134.JPG|thumb|none|500px|General Electric M134 - 7.62x51mm]] | ||
[[Image:GE 134 WWS.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Soldiers inspect an M134 Minigun on display]] | [[Image:GE 134 WWS.JPG|thumb|none|500px|Soldiers inspect an M134 Minigun on display.]] | ||
== M1928A1 Thompson == | == M1928A1 Thompson == | ||
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a South Vietnamese soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine. | As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a South Vietnamese soldier holding up an [[Thompson Submachine Gun#M1928/M1928A1 Thompson|M1928A1 Thompson]] with a 20-round magazine. | ||
[[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:M1928-A1 T.jpg|thumb|none|500px|M1928A1 Thompson .45 ACP with 30-round box magazine.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A ARVN soldier | [[Image:Vlcsnap-79844.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A ARVN soldier with an M1928A1 Thompson.]] | ||
== Browning M1919A4 == | == Browning M1919A4 == | ||
Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4]]s can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence. | Two [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4]]s can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence. | ||
[[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:BrowningM37MG.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A variant of the Browning M1919 developed during World War 2, this model is designated the M37, with the ability to feed from either the left or the right of the weapon - 30-06. This example is shown without a tripod, only the pintle mount. This the MOST likely .30 cal machine gun to be seen firing from armored vehicles.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-30185.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A french soldier fires the [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4]] at Viet Minh forces.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-30185.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A french soldier fires the [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4]] at Viet Minh forces.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4]] can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-23377.jpg|thumb|none|500px|The [[Browning M1919|Browning M1919A4]] can be seen mounted on the jeep on the left.]] | ||
== MAT-49 == | == MAT-49 == | ||
Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various North Vietnam soldiers and Vietcong soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamise troops during the Indochina war. | Various French Soldiers use [[MAT-49]] submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various North Vietnam soldiers and Vietcong soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamise troops during the Indochina war. | ||
[[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none| | [[Image:MAT-49.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A MAT-49 submachine gun.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A french soldier can be seen with a [[MAT-49]] in the center of the screencap.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-22831.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A french soldier can be seen with a [[MAT-49]] in the center of the screencap.]] | ||
[[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]] | [[Image:Vlcsnap-165653.jpg|thumb|none|500px|A MAT-49 sits on the top of the pile of guns while US soldiers pile up dead NVA soldiers in the background.]] |
Revision as of 19:04, 26 May 2009
The following guns were used in the movie We Were Soldiers
XM16E1
The XM16E1 assault rifle are used by the soldiers of the 1st Cavalry Division including Lt. Colonel Hal Moore(Mel Gibson), First Lieutenent Charlie Hastings (Robert Bagnell),Second Lieutenent Jack Geoghegan (Chris Klein), Sergeant Ernie Savage(Ryan Hurst) and most United States Army soldiers. Later on the film during the Ia Drang battle Joe Galloway (Barry Pepper) uses one as well. These were actual XM16E1's used on the film for the heroes.
M1 Carbine
A Korean war era M1 Carbine is carried by the South Vietnamese (ARVN) advisor dressed in Tigerstripe fatigues. He appears in the scene in which the NVA scout is caught and interrogated. Viet Minh soldiers also use them against the french during the intro.
M60 machine gun
The M60 machine gun is are used by US soldiers. Various Door gunners use them as well.
Colt M1911 pistol
A Colt M1911 is fired by Command Sergeant Major Basil Plumley (Sam Elliott) during a close combat sequence and is also seen in the holsters of his fellow soldiers.
- I read somewhere (I think LMO) that Sam Elliot used an older M1911 not an A1. Gibson on the other hand did use an A1. I'm sure Steve would know something about it, since he worked on the film. - Gunmaster45
Sam Elliot did indeed used a Colt 1911 rebuilt for World War II and Mel Gibson used a Colt 1911A1 pre-war commercial issued to the military during World War II. -Steve
Colt M1911A1 pistol
A Colt M1911A1 is seen in the holster of Lt. Col. Hal Moore (Mel Gibson) during a close combat sequence, shooting an NVA soldier attempting to bayonet him while he's on the radio.
M26 Hand Grenades
In several scenes, U.S. soldiers can be seen with M26 hand grenades strapped to their pouches.
PPSh-41
The NVA and the Vietcong use PPSh-41s submachine guns during the intro sequence and the rest of the movie.
Genuine AK-47s
During the movie the North Vietnamise Army (NVA) use Genuine AK-47s with Milled Receivers.
The AK-47s used in the movie were build by the Movie's Armourer Mike Papac.
M79 grenade launcher
Various US soldiers can be seen carrying M79 grenade launchers in a few scenes. Specialist Galen Bungum(Blake Heron) uses one since he is the grenadier of Seargent Savage's squad.
MAS-36 Rifle
In the opening scene where the french soldiers are ambushed during the Indochina War, various french soldiers use MAS-36 rifles.
Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman
The .38 caliber revolver pulled out by Maj. Bruce "Snake S!@#" Crandall (Greg Kinnear) is most likely a Smith & Wesson M-13 Aircrewman, an unsuccessful lightweight aluminium-cylindered revolver designed for US military flyers.
GE M134 Minigun
A pair each of GE M134 Miniguns are seen mounted on the gunship Hueys that rip apart PAVN soldiers at the climax of the film, and one is also on display on a table in the beginning of the movie.
M1928A1 Thompson
As the American soldiers are heading off for battle you can see a South Vietnamese soldier holding up an M1928A1 Thompson with a 20-round magazine.
Browning M1919A4
Two Browning M1919A4s can be seen mounted on French jeeps on the intro sequence.
MAT-49
Various French Soldiers use MAT-49 submachine guns during the opening Scene. Various North Vietnam soldiers and Vietcong soldiers use them during the rest of the movie, probably scavenged from French and South Vietnamise troops during the Indochina war.
RPG-2
An NVA soldier wearing a gas mask uses an RPG-2 (Vietnamese made version was known as the B-40) to kill American soldiers.
SKS rifle
Several Viet Minh soldiers and NVA soldiers use SKS rifles during intro sequence and during the Battle of Ia Drang.