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The M249 was adopted in 1982, and the Minimi itself was designed in 1974, so its presence ''is'' plausible (though I doubt the National Guard would have had them just 2 years after adoption). The XM16E1, which the devs probably confused with the M16A1, also isn't really an "odd choice" as the page says. It was only the US Marine Corps that adopted the M16A2 in 1984, while the US Army (which Fort Baxter belongs to) continued to soldier on with the A1 until 1988, making the XM16E1's presence ''relatively'' accurate. Besides, R* probably just didn't want to bother monkeying around with the game's code to have a burst-fire rifle, seeing it as quicker, simpler, and cheaper to just reskin the full auto "M4" from previous games. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:11, 14 February 2013 (EST) | The M249 was adopted in 1982, and the Minimi itself was designed in 1974, so its presence ''is'' plausible (though I doubt the National Guard would have had them just 2 years after adoption). The XM16E1, which the devs probably confused with the M16A1, also isn't really an "odd choice" as the page says. It was only the US Marine Corps that adopted the M16A2 in 1984, while the US Army (which Fort Baxter belongs to) continued to soldier on with the A1 until 1988, making the XM16E1's presence ''relatively'' accurate. Besides, R* probably just didn't want to bother monkeying around with the game's code to have a burst-fire rifle, seeing it as quicker, simpler, and cheaper to just reskin the full auto "M4" from previous games. [[User:Spartan198|Spartan198]] ([[User talk:Spartan198|talk]]) 11:11, 14 February 2013 (EST) | ||
:That said, while the SAW was first issued in 82, it only first saw combat in Operation Just Cause in 89, so it would absolutely be anachronistic to have soldiers pulling them out to attack Lance for being an awful character. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 15:40, 19 September 2018 (EDT) | |||
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Revision as of 19:40, 19 September 2018
The SP89
I can't believe that nobody noticed this anachronism, but I suppose it isn't the first time that Rockstar Games has goofed on firearm specifications in video games (much less, ones set in the past). 203.206.5.121 16:12, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
The Ithaca 37
- This has beenn a really difficult gun to identify, so I just went to get confirmation: is this an Ithaca 37? -Gunman69 16:52, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
- It is a Over and under double barrel shotgun. There are pictures of it in the double barrel shotgun page. This shotgun also appears in Liberty city Stories.-Oliveira 16:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
MP5 Thingamabob
It is not at all a safe assumption that the "SMG" is directly based on an SP89. Take into account A: the frankengun mishmash appearance of it, and B: the fact that both Vice City and Liberty City Stories had their own MP5K abominations that were very clearly not SP89's either. PersonOfInterest
Anachronisms?
I'm not sure if the US Army adopted the M249 in 1984, if so then the M249's appearance is anachronistic. Though you could explain that it's an FN Minimi. But then again, I'm not sure when the Minimi itself was put in production. The Beretta's presence is completely unrealistic as the XM9 trials didn't happen until 1985 and even then the Army didn't receive the M9 pistols until 1988. It would make more sense if they stuck with the 1911. Correct me if any of this is wrong though. Hughjefender
Its a M92 not a military issue M9, the original M92 was developed in the mid 70's. As for the SAW, it apparently got issued in '84 so its not anachronistic.---P226 19:43, 16 December 2011 (CST)
The M249 was adopted in 1982, and the Minimi itself was designed in 1974, so its presence is plausible (though I doubt the National Guard would have had them just 2 years after adoption). The XM16E1, which the devs probably confused with the M16A1, also isn't really an "odd choice" as the page says. It was only the US Marine Corps that adopted the M16A2 in 1984, while the US Army (which Fort Baxter belongs to) continued to soldier on with the A1 until 1988, making the XM16E1's presence relatively accurate. Besides, R* probably just didn't want to bother monkeying around with the game's code to have a burst-fire rifle, seeing it as quicker, simpler, and cheaper to just reskin the full auto "M4" from previous games. Spartan198 (talk) 11:11, 14 February 2013 (EST)
- That said, while the SAW was first issued in 82, it only first saw combat in Operation Just Cause in 89, so it would absolutely be anachronistic to have soldiers pulling them out to attack Lance for being an awful character. Evil Tim (talk) 15:40, 19 September 2018 (EDT)
MP5
I think that the composite MP5 in game actually has the appearance of the MP5K Reverse Stretch seen below:
Or it resembles the MP5K Non-Gun seen below:
And the Minigun is probably either a GAU-19 or a M197 Vulcan (or perhaps a hybrid between the two?)
--Ultimate94ninja (talk) 08:56, 22 October 2013 (EDT)
Please help ID
The revolver held by the officer here, and the pistol seen here (is it even a real one, or just a generic cartoony one?) --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 09:07, 18 September 2018 (EDT)
- Given both of those are semi cartoony artwork they aren't really identifiable as anything specific. The automatic is pretty generally drawn and has traits from about three different guns that I can see. And the revolver is likewise pretty generically drawn, though it does look to have a S&W style cylinder release for whatever that counts for. StanTheMan (talk) 11:24, 18 September 2018 (EDT)
- What am I not surprised anymore... although yeah, the revolver does seem to have S&W-esque parts (there's a better image of it here btw). --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 12:30, 19 September 2018 (EDT)
