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== Keppeler & Fritz KS II Precision (?) == | |||
- I guess it's a WA 2000 | |||
:It's not. That's been the most common guess, and it's not accurate. -[[User:MT2008|MT2008]] | |||
::I agree. The barrel on this gun is much different from that of a WA 2000. | |||
Not to mention the WA 200 is semi auto, this is bolt action. | |||
it looks similar to the keppeler & fritz. and if it was custom built for the movie i would think that it is at least part KS II. | |||
My best guess would be KSVK with normal flash hider and custom scope. | |||
::I thought they made a single shot bolt action kit for the WA2000. In Hitman: Blood Money you can modify the gun in this way to make it more accurate. Of course I don't use video games as first hand gun guides, but it still makes me wonder if this is a WA2000. - [[User:Gunmaster45|Gunmaster45]] | |||
(edited 2009) | |||
The weapon that Jason uses on the scene is a full-customized WA 2000. This rifle using lighter chassis which has uses less frame (for make it lighter), this lighter chassis standard will only cover stock at the left side only as you can see at the picture below. And replace the chamber room with bolt-action system, and uses a very long barrel. With such this custom, the range of fire and it's accuracy increased significantly. | |||
You should notice at the grip, it's same as WA 2000 grip design. (for more info, you can search the topic about lighter chassis for WA 2000 from the innternet). | |||
:Uh, actually, the gun Bourne uses has a totally different grip than the WA 2000. Notice how Bourne's gun has more of a pistol grip, while the Walther has a grip with a thumbhole behind it. Plus, if you look at the second shot, you'll see the difference between the Walther trigger guard and Bourne's gun's trigger guard. Bourne's gun has a round trigger guard, whereas the Walther has a trapezoid-like trigger guard. I'll put the Walther picture up for comparison-[[User:Gunman69|Gunman69]] 19:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
Revision as of 20:21, 27 June 2009
SIG Sauer P22X?
- The one in the very last screenshot is either a P220 or a P226 (probably the latter). It's a bit blurry, but the slide is too long and the trigger guard isn't the right shape to be a P225. Yet another of the many continuity errors this series seems to have when it comes to guns. -MT2008
I am quite sure that the Sig Bourne uses throughout the movie, which he takes from Nevins, is a Sig 228, not a 225 or 226. It lacks the squared off trigger guard both of those models have. It is also too short in barrel length to be a 226.
- Actually, if you look closely, it does have the squared trigger guard. Plus, the slide shape is wrong for a P228, but closer to that of the P225. It's only in the last screenshot on here that I think it may be a P226 just because the barrel is too long. That would be a continuity error, but the gun throughout the movie is generally a P225. -MT2008
I think its better to trust MT2008 since he is a big Sig fan. I also think that the slide doesn't look like a 228 at all. There is also a slight outer barrel difference.-GunnutHk
With all due respect to MT, I have 4 Sigs (real ones, not airsoft): 220, 225, 226, 229. The slide of the 225 and 228 are virtually identical...no difference in slide serrations as with the 229, and no difference in length. The outer barrel? Huh? They are both 9mm (the 228 and 225). The way to tell them apart is by trigger guard (square on 225, rounded on 228) or, if you can see the side of the frame, look for the bump-out on the 228 that allows for the doublestack mags...the bump out shows as a line just behind the takedown lever on the left side of the gun and at the equivalent spot on the right side...all this pics people have linked to here are too dark to tell either. In full action, though, I've never noticed the square trigger guard, leading me to believe it's a 228. If a clearer photo turns up, I'll eat my words.
- I own a real SIG, too, not airsoft (you can see pics of my P226 on my user page). The slide of the 228 is very close to that of the 225, but the cuts in the rear are a little bit different where it meets the frame. Besides that, Bourne's SIG seems to have a squared trigger guard. I don't know what you mean with the outer barrel. -MT2008
- Shouldn't we move this to the talk page (or at least create a talk page for the movie and post this there)? - Swordfish941
Keppeler & Fritz KS II Precision (?)
- I guess it's a WA 2000
- It's not. That's been the most common guess, and it's not accurate. -MT2008
- I agree. The barrel on this gun is much different from that of a WA 2000.
Not to mention the WA 200 is semi auto, this is bolt action.
it looks similar to the keppeler & fritz. and if it was custom built for the movie i would think that it is at least part KS II.
My best guess would be KSVK with normal flash hider and custom scope.
- I thought they made a single shot bolt action kit for the WA2000. In Hitman: Blood Money you can modify the gun in this way to make it more accurate. Of course I don't use video games as first hand gun guides, but it still makes me wonder if this is a WA2000. - Gunmaster45
(edited 2009) The weapon that Jason uses on the scene is a full-customized WA 2000. This rifle using lighter chassis which has uses less frame (for make it lighter), this lighter chassis standard will only cover stock at the left side only as you can see at the picture below. And replace the chamber room with bolt-action system, and uses a very long barrel. With such this custom, the range of fire and it's accuracy increased significantly.
You should notice at the grip, it's same as WA 2000 grip design. (for more info, you can search the topic about lighter chassis for WA 2000 from the innternet).
- Uh, actually, the gun Bourne uses has a totally different grip than the WA 2000. Notice how Bourne's gun has more of a pistol grip, while the Walther has a grip with a thumbhole behind it. Plus, if you look at the second shot, you'll see the difference between the Walther trigger guard and Bourne's gun's trigger guard. Bourne's gun has a round trigger guard, whereas the Walther has a trapezoid-like trigger guard. I'll put the Walther picture up for comparison-Gunman69 19:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)