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::::Bringing the initial question back to life, maybe the pistol grip slides forward like on the Czech Vz.59 or Finnish KVKK machine guns?--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:04, 26 December 2017 (EST) | ::::Bringing the initial question back to life, maybe the pistol grip slides forward like on the Czech Vz.59 or Finnish KVKK machine guns?--[[User:AgentGumby|AgentGumby]] ([[User talk:AgentGumby|talk]]) 23:04, 26 December 2017 (EST) | ||
:::::I think the most likely is that you operate it by racking the carry handle, it looks to be in about the right place. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 23:57, 26 December 2017 (EST) | :::::I think the most likely is that you operate it by racking the carry handle, it looks to be in about the right place. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 23:57, 26 December 2017 (EST) | ||
::::::Another theory for the mysteries of KS-23K operation: perhaps the barrel / action is a group that can move inside the gun like with the AN-94, so you use that grip at the front to pump the entire barrel back and forth. [[User:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] ([[User talk:Evil Tim|talk]]) 03:04, 27 October 2018 (EDT) | |||
OK, this is actually a kind of cousin of the [[Ithaca Mag-10 "RoadBlocker"]]. KS-23 for its main purpose is more likely a grenade launcher; and this was intended to use as the lethal weapon for shooting the buckshot only in the last place. His civilian sales have completely failed, due to the bulkiness, low-capacity, and extremely rare ammo. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 15:00, 7 January 2018 (EST) | OK, this is actually a kind of cousin of the [[Ithaca Mag-10 "RoadBlocker"]]. KS-23 for its main purpose is more likely a grenade launcher; and this was intended to use as the lethal weapon for shooting the buckshot only in the last place. His civilian sales have completely failed, due to the bulkiness, low-capacity, and extremely rare ammo. --[[User:Slon95|Slon95]] ([[User talk:Slon95|talk]]) 15:00, 7 January 2018 (EST) | ||
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I would note that the barrel of caliber 23 mm was taken from the aircraft or antiaircraft guns. Currently, police do not use this shotgun - because it was too heavy Slow Rider 09:33, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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How accurate would one of these be?
Considering it has a rifled barrel and typically fires slugs, would it be as accurate as a rifle? The only reason I would think it wouldn't be is because the bullet might be too heavy to travel very far accurately. That's One Angry Duck 00:34, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
- World.guns.ru gives ranges in the region of 100-200 yards for it. I'd guess it's just the recoil that fucks with you; it's only a little over a pound heavier than a loaded M4 firing a round over four times the calibre. Also, the barrel isn't exactly huge in terms of calibre-length; the KS-23's is 22 calibres long, an M4's barrel is 66. Vangelis 08:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
KS-23K
So... how does it work? I mean, there's no way that the gripped portion of the barrel could be a pump handle, so is it semi-auto, or what? Pyr0m4n14c (talk) 20:09, 4 April 2017 (EDT)
- Magic, cause no one really knows how to. The KS-23K was only designed to make reloading easier, cause stuffing 6 gauge shells into a tube is a bit hard. Many sources say that the MVD uses it, but there is nothing concrete and I would guess they use the standard model instead. I'm seeing some being touted as semi-auto while others are saying it's the same action backed up Groza style, which really terrifies me. --PaperCake 22:34, 4 April 2017 (EST)
- Dunno to what extend we can trust the sources. This says that the KS-23K didn't really see use, and this (page 337) states that the KS-23M never appeared in the hands of troops and that it accepts a grenade launcher called "Cheremuka-7". But when did I truly facepalm? When I saw this stating that the KS-23K is the only pump-action one while the others are semi-auto... I mean, seriously? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 17:46, 30 April 2017 (EDT)
- KS-23M is issued to law enforcement agencies and saw much usage, while KS-23K really wasn't put in service for being unreliable. All versions of KS-23 are pump action, not semi auto. Greg-Z (talk) 01:31, 1 May 2017 (EDT)
- Bringing the initial question back to life, maybe the pistol grip slides forward like on the Czech Vz.59 or Finnish KVKK machine guns?--AgentGumby (talk) 23:04, 26 December 2017 (EST)
- KS-23M is issued to law enforcement agencies and saw much usage, while KS-23K really wasn't put in service for being unreliable. All versions of KS-23 are pump action, not semi auto. Greg-Z (talk) 01:31, 1 May 2017 (EDT)
- Dunno to what extend we can trust the sources. This says that the KS-23K didn't really see use, and this (page 337) states that the KS-23M never appeared in the hands of troops and that it accepts a grenade launcher called "Cheremuka-7". But when did I truly facepalm? When I saw this stating that the KS-23K is the only pump-action one while the others are semi-auto... I mean, seriously? --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 17:46, 30 April 2017 (EDT)
OK, this is actually a kind of cousin of the Ithaca Mag-10 "RoadBlocker". KS-23 for its main purpose is more likely a grenade launcher; and this was intended to use as the lethal weapon for shooting the buckshot only in the last place. His civilian sales have completely failed, due to the bulkiness, low-capacity, and extremely rare ammo. --Slon95 (talk) 15:00, 7 January 2018 (EST)