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:::An interesting idea! but some other features, like lanyard ring, doesn't match TT, as for me. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:59, 6 July 2016 (EDT) | :::An interesting idea! but some other features, like lanyard ring, doesn't match TT, as for me. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 02:59, 6 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
::::The TT-33 does have a lanyard ring on the left side of the grip. And the grip itself looks a bit thin to be a double-stack. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:01, 6 July 2016 (EDT) | ::::The TT-33 does have a lanyard ring on the left side of the grip. And the grip itself looks a bit thin to be a double-stack. --[[User:Funkychinaman|Funkychinaman]] ([[User talk:Funkychinaman|talk]]) 12:01, 6 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
:::::Well, it's reasonable. The angle of the grip also resembles a TT. In historical terms it's nonsence as Jackson (Ramon Mercader) posed as an individual that has nothing in common with USSR and so he couldn't carry Soviet pistol, but the moviemakers hardly take this aspect into accout and can use just any handgun. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 12:48, 6 July 2016 (EDT) | |||
: I too think this is a Hi-Power. The glint at the mid-point of the trigger guard suggests a trigger that matches that of a HP and not a 1911. The angle and light here make it difficult to tell but I think there's also the distinctive narrowing step-down at the front of the slide, again indicative of a Hi-Power. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:37, 5 July 2016 (EDT) | : I too think this is a Hi-Power. The glint at the mid-point of the trigger guard suggests a trigger that matches that of a HP and not a 1911. The angle and light here make it difficult to tell but I think there's also the distinctive narrowing step-down at the front of the slide, again indicative of a Hi-Power. [[User:StanTheMan|StanTheMan]] ([[User talk:StanTheMan|talk]]) 14:37, 5 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
::Thanks! Also one more feature pro Hi-Power is the large lanyard ring on the grip that is rarely seen on 1911s. So then I have to ask if the pistol in hands of Jackson is the same Hi-Power or in a continuity error it switches to M1911. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:56, 5 July 2016 (EDT) | ::Thanks! Also one more feature pro Hi-Power is the large lanyard ring on the grip that is rarely seen on 1911s. So then I have to ask if the pistol in hands of Jackson is the same Hi-Power or in a continuity error it switches to M1911. [[User:Greg-Z|Greg-Z]] ([[User talk:Greg-Z|talk]]) 14:56, 5 July 2016 (EDT) | ||
[[File:The Assassination of Trotsky-1911-3-Crop.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Enlarged and cropped fragment.]] | [[File:The Assassination of Trotsky-1911-3-Crop.jpg|thumb|none|500px|Enlarged and cropped fragment.]] | ||
Revision as of 16:48, 6 July 2016
1911 or Hi-Power?
I begin to doubt about this pistol:
At first I identified it as M1911 but now I begin to think that it looks more like a Hi-Power. There isn't any other view of this gun. In the final scene Frank Jackson holds this pistol but it is seen very briefly. Greg-Z (talk) 13:37, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
- Given how thin the grip is, my first thought was TT-33. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:04, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
- An interesting idea! but some other features, like lanyard ring, doesn't match TT, as for me. Greg-Z (talk) 02:59, 6 July 2016 (EDT)
- The TT-33 does have a lanyard ring on the left side of the grip. And the grip itself looks a bit thin to be a double-stack. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:01, 6 July 2016 (EDT)
- Well, it's reasonable. The angle of the grip also resembles a TT. In historical terms it's nonsence as Jackson (Ramon Mercader) posed as an individual that has nothing in common with USSR and so he couldn't carry Soviet pistol, but the moviemakers hardly take this aspect into accout and can use just any handgun. Greg-Z (talk) 12:48, 6 July 2016 (EDT)
- The TT-33 does have a lanyard ring on the left side of the grip. And the grip itself looks a bit thin to be a double-stack. --Funkychinaman (talk) 12:01, 6 July 2016 (EDT)
- An interesting idea! but some other features, like lanyard ring, doesn't match TT, as for me. Greg-Z (talk) 02:59, 6 July 2016 (EDT)
- Given how thin the grip is, my first thought was TT-33. --Funkychinaman (talk) 15:04, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
- I too think this is a Hi-Power. The glint at the mid-point of the trigger guard suggests a trigger that matches that of a HP and not a 1911. The angle and light here make it difficult to tell but I think there's also the distinctive narrowing step-down at the front of the slide, again indicative of a Hi-Power. StanTheMan (talk) 14:37, 5 July 2016 (EDT)
