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==About that "MP5"== | ==About that "MP5"== | ||
I don't think the weapon in question can be listed is an MP5A3. It's clear that the in-game weapon has the sights, forearm, & barrel of the HK54, despite using an icon of the MP5A3. The magazine of the in-game gun is not even the typical straight "waffle pattern", but an even earlier version. I see that the MP5 page has no photo of the HK54. Does someone have a photo of this weapon that we can use for this site? -- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 23:28, 19 June 2016 (EDT) | I don't think the weapon in question can be listed is an MP5A3. It's clear that the in-game weapon has the sights, forearm, & barrel of the HK54, despite using an icon of the MP5A3. The magazine of the in-game gun is not even the typical straight "waffle pattern", but an even earlier version. I see that the MP5 page has no photo of the HK54. Does someone have a photo of this weapon that we can use for this site? -- [[User:Phillb36|Phillb36]] ([[User talk:Phillb36|talk]]) 23:28, 19 June 2016 (EDT) | ||
:We do have a picture of HK54, or MP54, it's in MP5 discussion page. I'll go ahead and put it on the page and switch the MP5A3 to MP54, as I also think the weapon in game is MP54. --[[User:CnC Fin|CnC Fin]] ([[User talk:CnC Fin|talk]]) 02:48, 20 June 2016 (EDT) | |||
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[1] - in fact, a video of the gameplay. One can see a lot of new guns. --Slon95 (talk) 14:38, 18 December 2015 (EST)
- I saw a M1911A1 (in the magical DAO mode) something that looked like a lee-enfield boltgun, a colt python(?) and a full size Uzi. Gotta say, this game looks kinda crap, and im not talking about the graphics.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 14:47, 18 December 2015 (EST)
- It has a real crappy vibe to it... Mr. Wolf (talk) 16:49, 18 December 2015 (EST)
- It looks kinda janky and laggy for one thing, but it also just feels kinda soulless, like the devs aren't really using the environment they created as anything other then a shooting gallery filled with uncocked hammers. Oh well, we'll see how it turns out, seems to have a good soundtrack atleast.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 17:10, 18 December 2015 (EST)
- I spotted a Vz 61 Skorpion as "Czech Version B-65" around 9:10, perhaps an M1 Garand as "Mayweather .30 Battle Rifle" with what looks like a short magazine at 9:21, M1928 Thompson as "Trench 1938" at 9:46. And I do agree, it does look somewhat crappy and soulless. It feels like a generic or GTA-like free roaming shooting gallery, and I don't like the way Lincoln holds his pistol with one hand, at least Vito in Mafia II used both hands. Also I don't think that kind of knife takedowns fit in a Mafia game, and why on earth the guns don't go by their real names as many guns did in Mafia II? Of course it's in alpha stage and many things may change, but damn. EDIT: Hot damn, Paint it Black plays on car radio, I may have to buy this game :D --CnC Fin (talk) 03:42, 19 December 2015 (EST)
- The soundtrack does seem to be really good, they had The house of the rising sun and All along the watchtower in the first trailer.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 07:44, 19 December 2015 (EST)
- The alfredsson pistol appears to be a S&W Model 39. I think the shotgun is a Remington 870. I also spotted an AK. When Lincoln abandons his car and it rams the mafia thugs causing an explosion, a rifle is thrown into the air which I believe is an AK. You have to look really close to see it. I'm dissapointed with some of the weapon choices. I thought the devs would choose to include guns that criminals in the 1960s could realistically obtain. This seems to be the case as far as the choice of pistols and the inclusion the Thompson & Garand, but when I watched the gameplay I expected to see weapons such as M3, S&W M-76, M-1 Carbine, or M-14. Instead it appears anything that existed in 1968 is fair game. Sorry, but including the Skorpion is total BS...I'm going to go out on a limb and say there were exactly 0 mafia thugs using those in the 1960s. The AK is also very unlikely. Yes, some were smuggled back from Vietnam, but I highly doubt it was a common weapon in the mafia. At least all the weapons appear to be accurately modeled after their real world counterparts. As far as the quality of the game as a whole, I'll reserve judgment until I see the finished product.-- Phillb36 (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2015 (EST)
- The soundtrack does seem to be really good, they had The house of the rising sun and All along the watchtower in the first trailer.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 07:44, 19 December 2015 (EST)
- I spotted a Vz 61 Skorpion as "Czech Version B-65" around 9:10, perhaps an M1 Garand as "Mayweather .30 Battle Rifle" with what looks like a short magazine at 9:21, M1928 Thompson as "Trench 1938" at 9:46. And I do agree, it does look somewhat crappy and soulless. It feels like a generic or GTA-like free roaming shooting gallery, and I don't like the way Lincoln holds his pistol with one hand, at least Vito in Mafia II used both hands. Also I don't think that kind of knife takedowns fit in a Mafia game, and why on earth the guns don't go by their real names as many guns did in Mafia II? Of course it's in alpha stage and many things may change, but damn. EDIT: Hot damn, Paint it Black plays on car radio, I may have to buy this game :D --CnC Fin (talk) 03:42, 19 December 2015 (EST)
- It looks kinda janky and laggy for one thing, but it also just feels kinda soulless, like the devs aren't really using the environment they created as anything other then a shooting gallery filled with uncocked hammers. Oh well, we'll see how it turns out, seems to have a good soundtrack atleast.--AnActualAK47 (talk) 17:10, 18 December 2015 (EST)
- It has a real crappy vibe to it... Mr. Wolf (talk) 16:49, 18 December 2015 (EST)
The Unknown Guns
Taking a bit of a guess due to the screenshots not being the best, I think the unknown revolver is a Colt Python, from both the image as well as the various release videos they did for the game. The unknown shotgun appears to be another Remington 870 like Mafia II, just without the barrel rib. Also try to organize this discussion page, it's a pretty big mess. -- PaperCake 11:36, 18 January 2015 (EST)
New Trailer, New Gameplay, New Guns
The latest trailer & gameplay footage reveal quite a few new weapons. This gameplay video Shows: What I think is M3 "Grease Gun" at 1:19, Beretta M12 at 1:23, Remington 700 at 4:01?, sawed off Winchester 1901 at 3:02, & the Lupara at 3:25. The new trailer shows what appears to be a SVT-40 at 1:15, Ithaca 37 at 1:24, & M1 Carbine at 1:28. There is also a suppressed pistol, which appears to be a High Standard. For some reason the icon shows a 1911 with silencer. A good shot of it is in this video at 2:00 minute mark.- Phillb36 (talk) 01:56, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
- I took some screencaps of Ithaca 37 and SVT-40 from the One Way Road story trailer. And also it seems that they're using M1928 Thompson as the weapon icon for the M1A1 Thompson. --CnC Fin (talk) 04:14, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
- I noticed the Thompson icon too, maybe that's something they will fix before the game is released, but who knows. I also saw that some mafia thugs drop a pistol named "Elling 9 mm", but there is no way to identify it as there is no accompaning icon. I'm guessing it's either a Walther P38, Browning Hi-Power, or Beretta M1951..there aren't too many other choices for this time period. Will you be adding the other weapons to page?-- Phillb36 (talk) 15:03, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
- I added the Remington 870, Beretta M12 and High Standard HDM. Even though the shotgun does look like an 870, Lincoln decides not to pump the weapon after each shot, which makes me wonder whether this is just a gameplay issue (as the game is still in development phase), little ignorance from the devs or is it a semi-auto shotgun? --CnC Fin (talk) 03:37, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
- The shotgun is definitely based on a pump Remington 870, but it's possible it's supposed to be a semi auto and the devs screwed up. It seems like a dumb mistake to make If that's the case. I would think that if it is intended to be a pump gun that the animation would have been added before it was demo'd. Of course this is still in development so things could change. Also, I was able to get a good look at the other SMG in the gameplay footage, and it's definitely an M3. As for the Elling 9mm, I was able to get a very brief glimpse of it, and I'm leaning toward it being a Browning Hi-Power. -- Phillb36 (talk) 23:45, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
- I added the Remington 870, Beretta M12 and High Standard HDM. Even though the shotgun does look like an 870, Lincoln decides not to pump the weapon after each shot, which makes me wonder whether this is just a gameplay issue (as the game is still in development phase), little ignorance from the devs or is it a semi-auto shotgun? --CnC Fin (talk) 03:37, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
- I noticed the Thompson icon too, maybe that's something they will fix before the game is released, but who knows. I also saw that some mafia thugs drop a pistol named "Elling 9 mm", but there is no way to identify it as there is no accompaning icon. I'm guessing it's either a Walther P38, Browning Hi-Power, or Beretta M1951..there aren't too many other choices for this time period. Will you be adding the other weapons to page?-- Phillb36 (talk) 15:03, 24 April 2016 (EDT)
2 new guns
Hey everyone, I saw a gameplay demo tonight and spotted two new guns- the Skorpion and Winchester 1887. Added both to the page with images.
It seems like this game will have a pretty sizable arsenal to choose from, which always makes me happy. I hope we get an M14 and an AR-10 too. --PyramidHead (talk) 01:40, 25 April 2016 (EDT)
- The selection of weapons is much improved compared to the last Mafia game. The M-14 is a must, and perhaps the game will feature a sniper version. I would also like to see the Carl Gustav M/45 or a S&W M-76. And since the devs aren't trying to be too realistic in their choices, why not include weapons like the CAR-15, Stoner 63, & Remington 7188?-- Phillb36 (talk) 00:21, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
E3 Coverage
A video released at E3 shows 20 minutes of Mafia 3 gameplay. Lots more guns are seen in action, including the M16, AK47 & M60.
Other guns I spotted:
Browning Hi-Power, appears as the "Elling 9mm".
New Shotgun, the "Riot 550", probably modeled on the Mossberg 500. The shotgun animation has also been corrected. In previous videos Lincoln never pumped the shotgun after firing, he now can be seen working the pump after every shot.
M3 Grease Gun-- dropped by quite a few thugs.
At one point Lincoln is holding what I'm almost sure is an M-14.
MAB PA-15 F1, appears as the Blackburn FAF-33. At first I thought this was a Stechkin, but after looking at the trigger & other details, pretty sure it's a MAB.
The most unusual addition is the early version of the MP5, the HK54!
It's obvious that any weapon that existed in 1968 is fair game for inclusion, so who knows what else will pop up. -- Phillb36 (talk) 22:52, 13 June 2016 (EDT)
I mean if it has the slimline grips and straight mag, it's not anachronistic. The PA-15 seems like an odd choice, but given the Scorpion and AK, anything's possible. -- PaperCake 00:56, 14 June 2016 (EST)
- It's unusual because they chose early HK54 version, instead of the MP5A3. The gun may not be anachronistic, but it's safe to say there were 0 MP5s in the U.S. In 1968. From what I have read, the first few sample MP5s weren't imported until 1970. As I mentioned, it seems anything that existed in 1968 is fair game, the devs don't seem to care what was actually available in the U.S. during this time period. The MAB may seem an unusual addition, but I believe these were actually imported into the U.S. In the 1960s, so it's not far fetched. -- Phillb36 (talk) 02:26, 14 June 2016 (EDT)
- Of course anything that existed during the time period is fair game. Look at Battlefield 1 Excalibur01 (talk) 11:36, 14 June 2016 (EDT)
The sniper rifle Lincoln fires at about 4:02 is 100% a Springfield M1903A4, I like the weapon choices, of course there is a bit of annoyance at the presence of the AK, but overall you can tell they actually paid attention (infinitely more than other games I could mention *Black Ops*) to weapons of the era, maybe took a little artistic license with some of their availability, but they fit and add to the setting; moreso than an AUG on the battlefields of Vietnam.
About that "MP5"
I don't think the weapon in question can be listed is an MP5A3. It's clear that the in-game weapon has the sights, forearm, & barrel of the HK54, despite using an icon of the MP5A3. The magazine of the in-game gun is not even the typical straight "waffle pattern", but an even earlier version. I see that the MP5 page has no photo of the HK54. Does someone have a photo of this weapon that we can use for this site? -- Phillb36 (talk) 23:28, 19 June 2016 (EDT)